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<img src="graemlins/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="[rolleyes]" /> Things are clearly not right at the Ricay and its clearly not just on the pitch. Transfer listing so many key players however out of form seems a bit drastic - or is Calder taking lessons from Borg on how to stir up the players?<p>Its a shame to see all this in house squabbling - how do you see this all turning out?? biggrin_santa.gif" border="0 <img src="graemlins/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="[rolleyes]" /> <img src="graemlins/smilewinkgrin.gif" border="0" alt="[smilewinkgrin]" />

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things will be a lot worse if they put in a poor preformance ag your mob irony... still on the bright side attendances are well up for riccay and this sat will prob be another 1000 plus

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Canv are you worried that your mob could only manage a paltry 3 goals against us? <img src="graemlins/smilewinkgrin.gif" border="0" alt="[smilewinkgrin]" /> St. Albans got 5 and Hendon 6 so by my reckoning you should have scored at least 8!<p>On the pitch the team aren't playing like a team, some of the players seem to pick and choose which games they want to perform in, and Gary Calder has decided this is the way to sort things out. <p>To be honest I don't think Saturday's game will have much effect - whatever the result I fully expect that some Billericay players will be pulling on the blue and white for the last time. <p>How will it work out? Ask me at the end of the season!

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CANV and Irony.<p>What can I say. Depressed is one word. Personaly I've said that this season we have had the best squad of players I have seen for many a season.....on paper. They have individual talent, skill etc., etc but no commitment. or if they have commistment it seems to be buried under Gary Calders attitude to them on match day. <p>Yep the manager swears but to shout at the top of your lungs at a player "if tou do that again, I'm gonna F**king drop you" does beg the question about the right way or wrong way to motivate a player or team. <p>Don't get me wrong, I like Gary Calder but as the pressure has mounted on him to coach a performance out of the team something, either in him, his method or the players attitude seems to be lacking.<p>On the pitch, one or two players turn it on only to find other key players lacking in effort or ideas. And it never is the same players each game. What I have noticed we lack is a "boss" midfielder. Someone to glue the team together and get player motivated on the pitch. Braintree have our last "boss" midfielder in Dean Parrott. Always liked him and many a poor performance in the opening stages of a game was turned around by his skill, determination and refusal to lay down and die attitude. But even he faded at the end of his time with us, which begs the question, is it the management of Billericay Town FC which is at fault?<p>I hate all this in fighting 'cos, as I said, I quite like the people down at New Lodge. I will be sorry to see Baker, KK, Flappy (Gavin, our goalkeeper) etc., etc., 'cos I think they are good players and it is not the individual that has let us down. It is the team as a whole. From the top to the bottom. And the latest knee **** reaction would not be my way but all I am is a supporter and will continue to be a supporter of the club.<p>I think the other problem is, due to the success in the 1970's with the Vase victories and the way Billericay rose through the non league ranks has made certain supporters restless for a return to the glory days. Canvey's success is well deserved ,as is Braintree's. In fact, despite my previous banter about Braintree's performance against us earlier in the season, I think the club has done better than Canvey in a way as they don't have Jeff King underwriting the teams wages (Canvey supporters will take me to task over this but to a lesser or greater degree, it is a fact). Good on you. The same situation exists at Billericay. We have spent money very wisely or appeared to, on players which have bags of individual talent but don't seem to click as a team. Their fault or the managements. Bugger knows.<p>Back to the "Glory Days" comment. I find it embarrasing that the only chant our supporters could muster at the Canvey game was "We've been to Wembley, you ain'y, you ain't". That was 20 odd years ago for pity's sake. Get a life. If and when Canvey falter, how would you feel CANV if your fellow supporters chanted about glories that are 20 years old while your team has given up on the pitch and you were being stuffed 3-0 at home!!! <p>Anyway back to the infighting. Bitching about the lack of success, glory days and "the team of the vase finals would stuff the team we have now" (oh yes, that is a great comment that I have heard echoed all around the ground) does not do it. It creates impatience, bad feeling and pressure on the management, players, supporters and club as a whole, which leads to what is beginning to happening at Billericay. In fighting and finger pointing. <p>The way forward, as I see it, is don't forget the the glory days, 'cos that is history but don't look back on the history and dwell on it. Look forward. Don't judge the team on previous victories but judge the team on its potential and give it and the management a chance to put right what has gone wrong. Support the club and don't knock it!!!<p>There, if this makes sense, I for one will be suprised as I'm typing this at work and and keeping an eye on the finance director who is walking this way.<p>Have a happy new year, y'all and see you all sooner or later, for a pint, a chat or both.

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morning gazza.. its hard to sing about much when your 2 nill down and youve had a player sent off and you have to stand at the cold end of the ground in the shade... i found the 3 min rendition of 'your just a bunch of pikeys' pretty amusing tho...mid to upper table is perfectly acceptable for this stage of the season, i think most riccay fans realise promotion is not viable at the moment, maybe the flying start got hopes up early on... the biggest downer is for you to be out of the trophy so early.. a good run in that can keep fans interested well after the title is out of the question...seeing G an N and especially canvey p.ss off into the distance dosent help, but as i mentioned earlier the attendances at the lodge are very impressive this season, beat the iron and get a couple of wins together and this little spat will be forgotten in no time.. football fans are are consistantly fickle if nothing else <img src="graemlins/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="[rolleyes]" />

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My hope is that we will beat the Irons but in reality 2-0 to them.<p>At best another hold on to your hats draw.<p>Plus me 8 pints, Braintree supporters 4 pints. YES, I win by a glug or two!!!

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Just been listening to Elvis singing "the impossible dream". We will win on Saturday and go on a mamoth run of wins that will see us surge back up the table to finish third, despite a record breaking Easter bank holiday win at Canvey (8-3) <img src="graemlins/smilewinkgrin.gif" border="0" alt="[smilewinkgrin]" /> <p>Impossible! It's a funny old game......

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<img src="graemlins/neon.gif" border="0" alt="[neon]" /> Well done Gazza/Simon on giving us an insight to whats going on but...should it really it be last game for a handful of the first team members - what will that achieve - where will Ricay get replacements that are any better at this stage of the season??<p>I'm gonna put my my oar (I said oar!) in here and say players of Joe Bakers calibre don't go bad overnight - what Calder needs now is a team to play as a team and splitting it up at such a crucial stage could prove costly - is it the players or the manager??? Anyway good luck Saturday - no sorry don't mean that - good luck AFTER Saturday lads!!! <img src="graemlins/images/icons/cool.gif" border="0" alt="cool" /> images/icons/wink.gif" border="0

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Gazza<p>A very well written and honest appraisal of your team, i even felt a tinge of sadness for what you're going through. I'm impressed by your football tipping as well, you got the two goal losing margin right. <p>Are those transfer listed players genuinely available? If so I wonder who we might get on the cheap, you know how we love a bargain in the sticks.

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Three cheers for Braintree.
Assume the crowd was so sparse because the local 'fans' thought Billericay couldn't raise a side.
One half each I think, but your player pushing ours over right in front of the ref was an act of folly that Gary Calder had no influence over.
Having read your thread, its amazing how so many teams like Aldershot, Gravesend, oh and yes Billericay try to live on past glories....
<img src="graemlins/klo.gif" border="0" alt="[klo]" /> <img src="graemlins/klo.gif" border="0" alt="[klo]" /> Going down the pan ???????

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Well, at least we have past glories.<p>I'm trying to remember what Braintree have done and won. Hmmmmmmmmmm, does Best Farmers award qualify?<p>Or best Clean Foot And Mouth Clean Up Trophy.<p>Nope, can't remember. Never mind.<p>Bad seasons happen once in a while abnd this one is still not over. Give me the "going down the pan" comment on the last day.

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Gazza you need to realise that Braintree were born from the ashes of Crittals Athletic who were playing senior football with professionals decades before your beloved Riccay moved up from playing junior football.<p>Among their achievements were winning the Eastern league, not much chop in this day and age but then only the Southern league (only one division then) stood between the regional leagues and the football league itself. Also in the 1930's they reached the semi final of the FA Amateur cup, The forerunner to the FA Trophy. I wonder if Riccay have reached the semis yet? In those days Crittals were averaging gates above 1000 with their Cressing Road stadium hosting most of the counties representative sports meetings.<p>Alas new owners of Crittals engineering arrived in the late 1950's, they had no such interest in sporting matters, the club and stadium were allowed to decay. So badly, in fact the club very nearly dissappeared totally on a number of occasions in the 70's & 80's. Then the legendary Chris Symes walked into the place and turned IRON into a winning outfit thru the mid 1980's. Two Eastern league championships, a couple of runners ups, the Essex senior trophy, Eastern flooddlit cup were all added to the trophy cabinet. The club was soon being rebuilt and by the same personnel who are still directing matters at the club today. It was felt the time was right to move to the Southern league in 1990. half a dozen consolidating seasons followed with no obvious progress apart from one Essex senior cup win.<p>It was clear however to the board promotion to the BHL premier (if it came) would involve travelling to the North Midlands one match and Weymouth the next. So a sideward step to the Isthmian was sought, but unlike G&NFC the previous season no such opening was available, so to the bottom of div 3 it was. Its taken 5 seasons to reach the premier, now we're eyeing the conference.
Not exactly a huge haul of trophies but definitely a very interesting contribution to Essex senior non-league soccer for more than a century.<p>
Can riccay match this history? I think its basically the two vase wins that turns on their fans on as you pointed out in an earlier posting.<p>[ 09 January 2002: This message was edited by: Iron knob ]</p>

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Three Vase wins. Get it right!!!<p>And yeah, I think it matches up to your record.<p>Lets see...<p>Oh I can't really be bothered. what is past is past, lets get on with the future (which doesn't look so rosy).

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Ironmaiden, I don't think Aldershot are living on past glories. I started following the Shots around 1970 and our history from then until we folded was not exactly sparkling. Yes there was the odd good cup run and games against Man Utd, Liverpool etc - there was even two promotions - but for much of the time the story was one of struggle and at best mid-table mediocrity.<p>Half the fun of our climb up from Ryman Div 3 is that we were actually winning most games - the quality of the football didn't matter - we were winning and there was a great spirit to the club.<p>Don't get me wrong - I would love to get back into the League, but I suspect that if (and I doubt that we will in the next decade at least) we do get back into the league, we will be letting ourselves in for a perpetual battle against relegation (a la Halifax).<p>I'm all for building a club that can establish itself in the Conference than living off so-called glory days.

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Woops, I should have said - I am all for building a side that can win the Ryman League and then establish itself in the Conference ...<p>Hopefully, next year we can at least mount a sustained challenge for the title.




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