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i dont like anyone whatever their skin colour or religion getting special treatment.

So are we giving kids special treatment by letting them getting in for free,i know that's not the same as skin colour or religion but age is also a sub-section of society and really what's the difference,think about it..
Maybe Gravesindian thrased some of his posts wrongly but the idea is a good one,forget the idea that it's favouritism,if it gets us fans...

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If the club chooses to go down this road, then maybe a 2 for the price of 1 may be more feasible.

That way the club still gets some additional revenue.

Gravesindian has the right idea but it should not be aimed at only the asian community which was why I voiced objections.

This topic has been raised over and over again - the club needs to aim for new supporters from all sections of the community - there is a need to convince the majority of locals that there is life outside the premiership (us followers of West Ham are already aware of this!) & if the club could somehow achieve this then the Borough of Gravesham would have their own full-time professional club.

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Wobbly Wayne said:What have we got to lose ?


Wobbly's quite right here - regrettably, and for whatever reason, very few of the Sikh community come to Stonebridge Road to watch the Fleet play, and so a scheme such as free tickets has to be the way forward. We have done this with many local boys' football teams in the past, so there's no reason why we shouldn't attempt it in this instance too. Obviously, dishing out free tickets week after week would be unfairly advantageous to newcomers to the Fleet at the expense of the club's loyal support. But surely such a scheme run once or twice a season can't do any harm?

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in response to Gravesindian, i guessed that you would miss interpret my points, the first being that a large number of your suppossed country men have by virtue of their birth place become my countrymen that is unless you maintain that being born in the uk from asain or other than british parents does not count.

on the second point you would do well to attend some of the Guru Nanak youth team games, it could prove enlightening.

all the above aside, surely this is about increaseing the gate, subsequently allowing the club to go full time and unless a return on these complimenatry tickets can be assurred the gain will be negative

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unless a return on these complimenatry tickets can be assurred the gain will be negative


Not as negative as that outlook though...
How on earth do you assure a return on what is essentially a marketing device...?
Do we make people swear allegiance to the club on acceptance of a free ticket?

Allowing a handful of freebies does not preclude paying visitors to the ground..... we could dish out 1500 free tickets every week and still the regular paying fans would be able to get in!
If 'freeloaders' come in and only happen to buy a couple of drinks or programmes and never return....what have we lost?
However, if one out of every twenty freebies bothers to come back on more than one occasion, then surely that must be a gain...?!

Anyway, enough of this nonsense, we'll be here all day...where the real money's at is at that bloody burger van....
Queued for twenty-five second-half minutes there on Thursday...if only the club could get a return on all the cash from that little gold mine we'd be able to buy Rivaldo!


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Anyway, enough of this nonsense, we'll be here all day...where the real money's at is at that bloody burger van....
Queued for twenty-five second-half minutes there on Thursday...if only the club could get a return on all the cash from that little gold mine we'd be able to buy Rivaldo!


I would imagine that, in hindsight, the club regret 'franchising' the catering. However, at the time it occured, the club were in the doldrums with no volunteers to run it and the conference seemed but just a dream. So I'm led to believe anyway.....

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If gravesindian spent as much time telling his pals about the fleet as he is cheking this noticeboard and posting requests for free this and free that then maybe we would be looking forward to a respectable gate against dover this wednesday? How about it gravesindian? Get on the phone to your pals, fill up a few cars and we will see you down there on the terraces?

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then maybe we would be looking forward to a respectable gate against dover this wednesday? How about it gravesindian? Get on the phone to your pals, fill up a few cars and we will see you down there on the terraces?


Errrr the match is on Tuesday.

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My mum's Lithuanian. Can I have a free ticket, please?

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I'm Englsih so I lose out and pay another bit of tax to the robbing government instead.

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in response to Gravesindian, i guessed that you would miss interpret my points, the first being that a large number of your suppossed country men have by virtue of their birth place become my countrymen that is unless you maintain that being born in the uk from asain or other than british parents does not count.

on the second point you would do well to attend some of the Guru Nanak youth team games, it could prove enlightening.


Two valid points - firstly, although I was born in the UK, I do not consider myself British by the virtue of Britain being my place of birth. However I do consider myself Indian by the virtue of my parents and grand-parents being Indian and many generations beyond that being Indian and am therefore proud of my nationality and culture and as I’m sure you will appreciate, I am not in a hurry to replace either of them and do not take kindly to anyone trying to dictate to me which nationality I am.

Secondly regarding the Guru’s, as I said we welcome players from all nationalities and cultures, however when Guru Nanak Football Club was established it was done so as a means of representing the Sikh community in Gravesham, and however many non-Sikh players represent them, it will culturally at least remain a Sikh football team and not a multi-cultural team despite the number of multi-nationals who represent them.

All this aside I thank you for your support for my idea.


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although I was born in the UK, I do not consider myself British by the virtue of Britain being my place of birth. However I do consider myself Indian by the virtue of my parents and grand-parents being Indian and many generations beyond that being Indian and am therefore proud of my nationality and culture and as I’m sure you will appreciate, I am not in a hurry to replace either of them and do not take kindly to anyone trying to dictate to me which nationality I am.


There lies the problem of Great Britain 2004.
Everybody wants to live here, raise their families here, be part of this so called 'multi-cultural society'.

In reality, none of them want to be British - this is the reason why people object when certain groups get or expect preferential treatment over anything or claim racism when they can't get their own way.

It's about time everybody swore allegiance to The Union Jack when coming to our lands, just like they have to with The Star-Spangled Banner in America.

Sorry if my comments sound over the top but I feel, like a lot of people, the Britain will never be one happy, multi-cultural society all the time the ethnic minorities adopt this attitude.

Keep a link to your roots and cultural but accept that by virtue of moving here, being allowed a BRITISH passport, you become a British citizen.

This is not a pop of Gravesindian specifically - just a general summarisation. No doubt somebody from the politically correct brigade will tell me off for these comments - I'm no racist - but surely the idea of a multi-cultural society is that people are of one nation with different cultures within?

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I can see the merit in giving free tickets to children,after all they are(hopefully) the future fans. Get them through the gate at a young age, and hopefully the seed is sown. I can see no point in giving free tickets to anybody else because of race, colour or creed. The Adults have jobs and can afford the few quid entrance fee.
If there is going to be a policy of free tickets, i have been a Northfleet supporter since 1955. I moved to the States 3 years ago, so can i have free tickets for the ground and flights? Thank you

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But surely to expect an Indian to become British when living in Britain or even being born in Britain, is like expecting the many thousands of Britons who are pouring into Spain and Australia to suddenly become Spaniards or Australians?

I am not questioning that when they arrive in these places that the respect the cultures of their new homelands and abide by the laws of the land and even try to speak the language, but they still remain British and that is where their alliances will ultimately remain. I will be the first to admit that when England play India in cricket I cheer on the Indian team because I see myself as an Indian and not an Englishman. The same could be said of the British ex-pats who were seen on television cheering on the England rugby team against Australia in the recent World Cup Final.


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Even i cheer on the Indians and im English! Tendulkar = class!

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if a person holds a british passport is british regardless of colour i think that is the point fleetfanatic is getting at.


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Just a minor point but Gravesindian raised the issue of ex pats to spain, becoming Spainards.
you are expected to register as a Spanish citizen (if you intend to live in the country full time after six months) , to enable assess to medical cover ( a doctor is picked for you) and other benefits. so in short the answer is yes.

that aside what's any of this got to do with the original topic which is that of complimenatry tickets, if we are going to give them lets get on with it. lets get the punters in and work towards the club going full time

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Apologies, I was unaware that you needed to take citizenship of another EC country if you settled there, and was wrongly under the impression that if a Frenchman or German wished to live and work the the UK, he would be allowed because he already carries a passport from another country which is a member of the EC.

So on the stregnth of what you have said surely it is somewhat absurd if someone were proud of being British, especially as the only qualification you need to become one is the ability to complete a few forms? You wouldn't even need to have a grasp of the language. If that's the case I'll stick to being Indian!!

All that said and done, we are drifiting from the topic in question.

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I couldn't care if you stay Indian, become British or even become a transexual Romney Gypsy.

Just keep coming to the Fleet , spread the word , encourage others to attend, and continue to come up with ideas on improving attendances.

Dishing out free tickets is not about bowing to particular groups, its about generating publicity and getting people to talk about and get interested in the Fleet, in the hope that they will eventually part with their hard earned cash on a regular basis.


Onwards and Upwards with the Fleet.









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How about offering some sort of incentive to the hundreds (or thousands?) that live within a 10-15 minute walk from the ground but can't be bothered to come to a match? We did the 'kids for free' thing but has it really increased our attendances? Freebies may work on the day but will they work in the long run? I have my doubts. Realistically, the only way we'll get the support the club deserves is if we win the league, beat Man. Utd. in the FA Cup final and an anti-apathy drug is introduced to the domestic drinking-water system.

Incidentally, just for the record, I'm not British; I'm English. In fact, I'm a Kentishman, actually..... <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />




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