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yawn.
Russ are more than welcome to come doen to Brimmo and support ETFC.

As has been said it is in Enfield. You can sit in the stand, or stand under cover on the half way line or behind the goal.

And enjoy the facilities.

but guys as for a "merger" yawn, forget it, not wanted or needed.


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I agree. What would it achieve? We have created something unique in Enfield. A club owned by it's fans. If we merged who would be the owners then? Would the present owners of EFC demand a say or indeed part ownership of a meged club? It would not work. Sharing a new ground would be a non starter as any new ground should be for ETFC 1st, the Ladies and (ideally) a future reserve team.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate EFC and I genuinely wish all associated with that once great non-laegue giant all the best but we have to make our own way now.

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it just goes to show dont it i only put it up as a joke got some response tho but seriously folks the only time i would be going to brimmo would be if we played there again dont like the place yes i no its in enfield as i keep hearing give me ware anytime good luck to you all we might see you next season...........russ

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Hi Russ.....If i were you i'd probably feel the same.....Ware's ground is nearer to you than Brimmsdown,and the ground itself is esthetically more pleasing on the eye,and it sits in more upmarket surrounds than brimsdown does.

The difference is, ETFC are constantly attracting new and young fans from throughout the borough...we are inbeded in the local community....and if that means i have to watch my team in slightly less comfortable surroudings,than i am more than happy to do so.

I doubt if EFC will attract one new supporter in their five years at Ware...Yes, players friends and family will come and go in that time,but a fanbase will not be established,and without that,a club will never have long term success.

Yes, Borehamwood's ground was a comfortable place to watch football,and i'm sure Ware will be just as pleasent.....But if i want tranquility,i'll go fishing or take the dog for a walk.......But when watching football,i demand atmosphere,pride,and excitement....So i'll be sticking with the football club representing the people of Enfield.

Come on Russ and MK....you are the only two EFC fans that we would like to see come across and join us.....You know you want to. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Lovely Stuff, you have just cheered me up. you mentioned the wrod fishing. the new license has been ordered, the weather is improving and I cannot wait for the odd day down on the banks of the River Lee.

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hello L.S.totally agree with you we miss the fans but thats all still say the2 teams will have to merge one day lets wait and see and happy you should try the fishing down here in mk bloody river lee tadpoles..........russ

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Nah, I like the Lee. Had a great day at the Abbey streych last year and pulled in a load of Bream.

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Yes Neil, it does seem to be a dead duck. The slight shift in opinion that I referred to was on the forum, where after the initial shrieks of "no merger never" several people began to post in favour of some kind of merger.

There isn't much point in flogging this old horse again, except to say that I agree there is nothing to be gained for Town by a merger unless EFC came back, or seriously tried to come back, to the borough. That would be a disaster for BOTH clubs unless they merged. EFC are not coming back so that's that.

No I don't really see how EFC can survive at Ware but that's their problem.

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I supported Enfield for almost 30 years and I would ask you all do you remember the pleasure the club gave us all F A cup shocks and numerous trophies If merging with the E's made the town just that little bit stronger then maybe it would be worthwhile to consider it.
PLEASE ALL REMEMBER ONE MAN ALONE CAUSED THIS POINTLESS DIVISION OF ENFIELD FOOTBALL CLUB. !!!!!!

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EFC are not coming back so that's that.

No I don't really see how EFC can survive at Ware but that's their problem.


1. Who knows? EFC have every intention, but there is nowhere in the borough close to Ryman League standard.
2. We've survived the last 3 seasons at Boreham Wood, why should Ware be any different?

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Well, I'm with you, Top Gun. I remember Port Vale, Barnsley, all the league and Trophy wins etc. I'm now a Towner (or Turncoat as the Wealdstone like to call me, har de har har) but I was initially sceptical, voting against the formation of Town.

However, with L*****u going, a merger is possible and definitely desirable in the long term. Trouble is it still needs a significant shift in opinion amongst Town fans, as far as I can make out. I would guess that the constitution and name of the merged entity would be a major bone of contention, should it reach the negotiations stage.

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1. EFC have a five year groundshare agreed at Ware, do they not? Obviously, I do not know the terms of the agreement and for all I know this could conceivably be a maximum term, like our 10 year deal at Brimmo, such that should the situation demand EFC could leave before the 5 years have expired.

Actually there is of course somewhere in the borough of Ryman standard, but it is not available to EFC - not for 10 years anyway!

But is there any realistic chance of EFC moving back? No, not really, but as you say, who knows. And as I said, such a move would be disatrous for BOTH clubs.

2. Survived is the word. Thanks to the sheer hard work, loyalty, belief and perseverance of a very few staff and fans, EFC have just about survived, as a legal entity. How much longer can this continue is the question, especially with relegation looming? I'm not wishing to put you down for the sake of it, but how does a non-league club playing well outside its home town attract or maintain any support? Gradually your 30-40 die hards will drift away, and there is no-one to replace them.

Personally I can't see how it will work, but as I say, it is of course your problem.



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yes it is their problem. I'm sure they have thought about it and made their decisions. Good luck to them. As for me I am actually happier with our own history and not the baggage which would come with any merger. Everyone who is associated with ETFC can field justifyably proud of what has been achieved and what will be achieved. In the same way those who stayed should be proud of the fact that they have kept going. What will happen to EFC is no concern of ours - we left and have our own club. Lets stop harping on about the past - move on.

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Careful examination of the thread will reveal that "moving on" is exactly what is being discussed. The debate is about the future of both clubs. Obviously the future of both clubs is connected in some way. If EFC return to the borough it will affect ETFC and the latter's existence will affect EFC, detrimentally in both cases, and probably fatally. The irony would be that there would no longer be any difference between the clubs. Therefore EFC's future does concern us.

If EFC do not return to the borough, their probable demise is of passing interest to us at ETFC but would not affect us and is indeed solely their business.

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And as for that ludicrous letter in the local press!

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What letter? There's nothing in today's Gazette, was it in the Independent?

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last weeks paper, if I remember correctly; Gazette.





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