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This morning I read that many people feel so strongly about ID cards that they are prepared to consider civil disobedience or more, and that ID cards could well be the current government's poll tax. Since the government has already lost a lot of its popularity by lying about Iraq, and because they are introducing them despite the opposition of the people who elected them, I could well imagine that this issue could bring the present government down.

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Did you all get your European Election Voting cards?, mine arrived today.



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Unless the goverment misuse ID cards for whatever reason, and I can't think of one, they can be a positive way to cut down crime. My driving license is my ID card, so if i commit a crime and get caught at the scene, giving a false name and address will do me no good at all.
Unless all the people who post on here against the ID system are out and out criminals........what the hell is your problem?
I hear people moaning all the time about Illegal Imigrants, ID cards could stop a lot of that!


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I quite agree FleetUSA. The one problem is what the card will actually contain about you !

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Unless my License has something on the magnetic strip on the back i don't know about, it has the worst photo of me since my passport photo, my date of birth, address details and signature!
The Social secutity number has more info on it then my ID.

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I'm all for them. I believe the benefits will far outweigh the problems that they may produce.

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im all for it.. mind you i am getting a platinum one ;-)

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I'm not too concerned. Just dont ask me to pay for it!

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I agree. It should be introduced but no way should we pay for it.

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The majority of the people could have it as their Drivers license......like here.......The rest.........I'm sure their is some way to do it without cost.

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They wont FFUSA, they'll use it as a way of fleecing us yet again!

There's so much money going round in the wrong hands in this country...every sodding company is offering cheap loans, consolidating debt services etc etc.. Rip off Britons, why not?

I'll refuse to pay for an ID card, and I suggest like-minded others do the same when the time comes!

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Quote:
maladroit said:
Just dont ask me to pay for it!


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It should be introduced but no way should we pay for it.


ID cards cost money. So they have to be paid for. If you think they should be introduced but you don't want to pay for them, then the only solution that springs to my mind is sponsorship. Do you think advertisers would pay enough to cover all the expenses for having their logo and a slogan on the ID card? Which companies might be interested in using the available advertising space?

Has anybody got any other ideas for raising the money without taking it from the taxpayer?

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Yes, cut expenditure elsewhere to fund them. Here's an idea, stop paying money to Europe that ends up going to other European countries to get them out of the mess they have got themselves into.

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Cutting expenditure elsewhere saves the taxpayer money. Then taxes could be lowered unless the money is spent on something else, such as ID cards. So the taxpayer would still be paying for them.

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get rid of all tax on everything

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and watch inflation go through the roof...

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OK I have no objection to ID cards, as I have said before, in effect we alrady have a multitude of them and far more information about you is kept on databases already than you may realise.

However, ID cards will have little or no effect on crime, immigration or terrorism. They'll simply forge them or obtain genuine ones fraudulently the same as they do now.

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So you agree with me that there are more cost effective ways of fighting crime, preventing terrorism and restricting immigration.

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A more cost effective way of cutting "petty crime" and crimes of an "anti-social" nature is to "licence" vigilante groups.
That would free up the professional police force!

And while we're at it, perpetrators of anti-social crimes should be banged up in the stocks for a suitable period, and we should be allowed to do what we want with the feckers! Stone 'em, hit 'em, throw 5hite at 'em...and all the local bum bandits could have their wicked way with 'em after midnight!!

I know it's slightly off topic, but I feel better for saying it!
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Like FFNo1 says unless you are dodgy, what is the problem.

Lived with one for 2 1/2 years whilst in Bruxelles, was never asked to show it to anyone apart from my landlord when i changed flats.

The police never stopped me and never asked to see it.

I dont see a problem. All for it.




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