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No more than six substitutes may be used by either side.

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Thanks Sven. This would never have become an issue had he not made 10-11 subs at half time in each friendly. This has the potential to hurt sides from Premier downwards. Will Sven be so happy about his ploy if Gerrard, Owen and Rooney get injured in the 80th minute of a pointless friendly, thus missing the early season qualifiers??

From a Fleet point of view, how can Andy assess trialists, and ease his squad into the start of the season if five of his team are forced to play 90 minutes??

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When I spoke to him I said that perhaps you could play two 45 minute matches.

Seems that's not on either and if the referee allows it then he could be struck off.

But to answer the point, I think he will arrange some additional matches.

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Yeah, we have played against people like Lordswood and Chatham before pre season so I reckon teams of this standard will be used to assess trialists.

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Am I the only person who isn't too bothered by this ruling? The fact is, if you make a ridiculous number of substitutions in one game, you don't get an ample chance to see how good the players are anyway - after all, we do have quite a few friendlies before the season starts.

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On a more serious note......I assume that we are allowed to take our plastic containers of beer onto the terraces as per past friendlies ? and thus enjoy the warm sunshine of the current summer ??!!!

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Only if you want your beer diluted with rainwater, if this week is anything to go by.....

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Am I the only person who isn't too bothered by this ruling? The fact is, if you make a ridiculous number of substitutions in one game, you don't get an ample chance to see how good the players are anyway - after all, we do have quite a few friendlies before the season starts.



I agree with JC. Trialists won't be able to show what they can do in a team that chops and changes every 10 minutes anyway. Plus, I always find it a waste of time and money watching 50+ players kick about in a game that doesn't mean anything.

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I will wait until the real thing starts. Friendly matches mean nothing to me at the end of the day. Win or loose. When i used to go i often found the performances a little alarming and they gererally did not reflect the up-coming season. Im sure Mr Ford will make the most of them.

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Don't see this as a problem because we have most of last season's players forming the nucleus of the team. I'd like to see most of the players put in a few full 90mins during the friendlies, as well the trialists & new lads, to make sure the team is ready for the new season k.o.
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Only if you want your beer diluted with rainwater, if this week is anything to go by.....


Well stand under the covered stands then.



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Yesterday , Fulhams friendly was abandoned as both teams wanted to make more than the allowed subs. The referee refused to referee so the game continued as an exhibition with the fourth official reffing.

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Gills used more than 6 subs in their game against Folkestone - I presume that was before the FIFA ruling?

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FIFA, EUFA, when are the footballing countries of the world going to tell these peoiple to shove their propososals where the sun doesn't shine and take back the control of domestic Football. What the F*ck does a non league side fielding 24 or 54 players in one match have to do with them.........NOTHING!!!!!!!!!COME ON FOOTBALL LEAGUE, FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION...........TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THE GAME IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!

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Gills used more than 6 subs in their game against Folkestone - I presume that was before the FIFA ruling?


Unlikely it came into force on 1st July. I read in NLP that Dagenham played two complete sides in their first match.

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FLEETFANNo1USA said:
FIFA, EUFA, when are the footballing countries of the world going to tell these peoiple to shove their propososals where the sun doesn't shine and take back the control of domestic Football. What the F*ck does a non league side fielding 24 or 54 players in one match have to do with them.........NOTHING!!!!!!!!!COME ON FOOTBALL LEAGUE, FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION...........TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THE GAME IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!


Those who find the new FIFA ruling intrusive and unnecessary might like to answer the following questions:

a)What possible benefit can be gained from two sides using 40 substitutions (as Fulham and Watford did in the game mentioned above, according to the BBC)?
B) Would you really pay good money to see a match if you knew it would be played out like this?

As suggested by hoagy on confguide, if clubs are going to make such a ridiculous number of changes in friendlies, they should call them training games instead and play them behind closed doors.

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But the way I see it, teams have always made wholesale changes in pre-season friendlies, so you know what you are going to get. I personally can't stand friendlies for that reason, so I don't go - but I would imagine that Andy may have a different view than most that have posted above.

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Those who find the new FIFA ruling intrusive and unnecessary might like to answer the following questions:

a)What possible benefit can be gained from two sides using 40 substitutions (as Fulham and Watford did in the game mentioned above, according to the BBC)?
B) Would you really pay good money to see a match if you knew it would be played out like this?

As suggested by hoagy on confguide, if clubs are going to make such a ridiculous number of changes in friendlies, they should call them training games instead and play them behind closed doors.


The benefits are that at this stage of the season, players are not back to full fitness and shouldn't be playing a full 90 minutes and it gives Andy a chnce to look at triallists even if it is only for 45 minutes a match.

No I wouldn't necessarily pay to go and watch matches with wholesale changes. However, we all know what's going to happen and we can make our own choice.

These matches are for the benefit of the club and the players, not the fans.

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Point taken, Dave - you do indeed know what you're going to get with pre-season friendlies. But with most sides arranging at least half-a-dozen, and usually more, this should leave plenty of time for managers to view players for a reasonable period of time. At the end of the day, I'd imagine it gets to a certain point where the more trialists you have, the more confusing it is and the less you know what your team for the coming season will be.

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People understand friendlies are for the purpose to give players a run oput for fitness , try new things , trialists etc..........

A testimonial is where you can see players from the testimonial players era, guest appearances etc.

What I portest at , is the clubs that charge full price for friendlies when in effect , it is not a full first team match.

It is for this reason , that I do not go to England internationals , as in my opinion the price for entry is fastly overinflated for a pointless friendly.

I will be going to all friendlies pre season home and away as I know what to expect , but maybe the clubs should publicise what there plans are.

What price are gravesend charging for the pre seasons. As a season ticket holder , I will get in free , but a few mates would like to come to the gills game and the welling game but I fear that if its full price , they wont bother , and potential casual fans will be lost.





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