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Middlesex Senior Cup - Winners - 14 times<p>
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Who Somersett Ambury ?<p>THM

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I don't recall Somersett Ambury winning the Middx Senior Cup.

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Freebird is half an enfield f.c fan as well! come on we need all the fans we can get! <img src="graemlins/wiggle.gif" border="0" alt="[wiggle]" />

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Don't forget his affiliation to Leyton Orient as well!

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Didn't he have something to do with Potters Bar as well ?<p>THM

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Blimey he's a one-man league! images/icons/smile.gif" border="0

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But never ever a townie

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Except Potters Bar Town of course.<p>How's the cardboard?

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Are the closest rivals as follows?<p>Southall and Hendon 12 times each
Wealdstone 11 times
Hayes 10 times<p>If so, it would be a pity if Hendon or Hayes were to win it this year!

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I dont get your point Colin that would still only give either of them 13 wins.<p>Badger as far as Potters Bar Town are concerned I was never a 100 per cent supporter.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Freebird:
<strong>I dont get your point Colin that would still only give either of them 13 wins.<p>Badger as far as Potters Bar Town are concerned I was never a 100 per cent supporter.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Enfield FC quite obviously couldn't care less about the MSC any more. Therefore if another club gets to within one win then they have a good chance of overtaking EFC because they aren't going to try to win it any more.<p>Rob, most of the problem that you seem to have with Enfield Town FC supporters is that they walked out on Enfield FC.<p>So, please explain to us why it is worse to go and watch Enfield Town FC instead of Enfield FC on the grounds that they play in the Borough and are therefore closer to where most of the supporters live than it is to go and watch Enfield FC play at Southbury Road instead of Orient/Leyton Orient at Brisbane Road because Enfield played closer to where you lived.

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Sorry Cyclops<p>What I will never understand is how after what was only a short spell in time and after supporters having trouble with Tommy Unwin in the past they turned their back on EFC when so close to taking over the club<p>Even with the problems that TL has caused I would have trought it would have been hard for supporters (who mostly supported the club a lot longer that me) could have stuck around longer.<p>I have never been told and I doubt if it will ever be told who it was that first suggested that the club should split and the turst form its own side now named ETFC.<p>that person has a lot to answer for and I would be very very supprised if it was someone who suported the club for a long time, It was more like someone who had no real feeling for EFC and so it was not a real break for them.<p>and I am sorry to say a vast majority of EFC supporters followed like lost sheep and that is sad.<p>Finally I dont understand the problum with watching your team were ever they play when you support a team you support it for life, I became a EFC supporter in the late 70's and would never think of changing, you may as well have gone to Underhill, as far as I can see what you have done is just as bad as going there<p>[ 12 January 2002: This message was edited by: Freebird ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Freebird:
<strong>Sorry Cyclops<p>What I will never understand is how after what was only a short spell in time and after supporters having trouble with Tommy Unwin in the past they turned their back on EFC when so close to taking over the club<p>Even with the problems that TL has caused I would have trought it would have been hard for supporters (who mostly supported the club a lot longer that me) could have stuck around longer.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>During your time away from the club you appear to have missed the number of broken promises made by Tony Lazarou. First he sold the ground without an adequate replacemenet. Then his grand schemes all fell through owing to what looked like bad mismanagement (e.g. failure to produce an adequate traffic survey and his ability to get the backs up of those people whose help he most needed). Then he promised to relinquish control of the club to the supporters and once more broke a promise by remaining. From a distance what he did might not seem too bad if you were only aware of part of it, but for those of us who were going along week after week that final broken promise was the last straw. I was gradually weaning myself off watching football because, had ETFC not come along, I would no longer be watching a club on a regular basis. OK, I could go and watch Boreham Wood or Elliot Star every now and then, but my heart wouldn't be in it. Many EFC supporters had already stopped watching EFC and were either doing the shopping or watching the likes of Cheshunt and Hertford Town because of Lazarou's antics.<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Also originally quoted by Freebird
<strong>I have never been told and I doubt if it will ever be told who it was that first suggested that the club should split and the turst form its own side now named ETFC.<p>that person has a lot to answer for and I would be very very supprised if it was someone who suported the club for a long time, It was more like someone who had no real feeling for EFC and so it was not a real break for them.<p>and I am sorry to say a vast majority of EFC supporters followed like lost sheep and that is sad.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I think the original idea may have been a throwaway, off the cuff comment from Lee Robson on the TGTLS News message board. However, for something to grow from such a throwaway remark there must have been fertile ground. I think you should remember that we now have people coming along to ETFC who are long-lost friends from Enfield and hadn't been going for a while anyway. To say that they followed like lost sheep is a bit ambiguous because following any footbal club can be like that. I could say the same about EFC supporters sticking with the club although the shepherd appears to be taking them straight to the abbatoir.<p><strong>Also posted by Freebird
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Finally I dont understand the problum with watching your team were ever they play when you support a team you support it for life, I became a EFC supporter in the late 70's and would never think of changing, you may as well have gone to Underhill, as far as I can see what you have done is just as bad as going there<p>[ 12 January 2002: This message was edited by: Freebird ]</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I don't have a problem with that, but either you have or else you are prepared to stand up and say there is one rule for you and another one for all the ex-EFC supporters who are now supporting ETFC. I was born and lived in the Borough of Enfield until I was about 15 or 16 and then moved out of the Borough. That never stopped me wanting to follow EFC. What did was what Lazarou has done to the club. You supported Orient until you moved to the Borough of Enfield and it was much easier for you to go to Enfield games at Southbury Road. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the aggressive manner in which you have attacked ETFC supporters ever since the club was formed for doing no more than you did when you started going to Southbury Road, especially since you have since been involved with clubs other than Enfield FC of you own free will and to the point that you couldn't watch anyhere near all of the games played by the club you are now claiming to support.<p>Sorry this post has been so long but I could not have said what I wanted to say in only a few words without it being totally ambiguous.<p>If you want to watch EFC, good luck to you and any others that feel the same. Just don't tell me how to live my life.

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Iwas prepearing to reply to every little comment as I read through your comments then I got to the final comment<p>Don't tell me how to live my life<p>Well seeing as this thread was going so light hearted untill cyclops joined.<p>I think I will end it here before the slagging off starts and gets out of hand.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Freebird:
<strong>I think I will end it here before the slagging off starts and gets out of hand.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Thank you Rob. Hopefully you will consider this before attacking ETFC supporters in future threads.

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Well said Cyclops.<p>THM

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THAT SHOULD GO FOR ALL THE TOWN FANS AS WELL THEN WHO STILL SLAG ENFIELD OF ON THERE WEB SITE AND OUR ONE!!!

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To get back to the Middlesex Senior Cup, which after all is the title of this thread, <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Freebird:
<strong>I dont get your point Colin that would still only give either of them 13 wins.
</strong><hr></blockquote>, I was only asking whether my statistics are correct in reply to the start of the thread. If they are, then Enfield Town could possibly do the E's a favour in the semi-finals, though this will probably not be the case, because Hayes and Hendon will probably be too strong for the Essex Senior League side.<p>Enfield obviously didn't care about the Middlesex Senior Cup this season, but these things can change from year to year. The officials of Enfield FC may, in one or two years, want to win a trophy again, and the Middlesex Senior Cup is a trophy with a long history.<p>Do the supporters care about the Middlesex Senior Cup?<p>[ 14 January 2002: This message was edited by: Colin, Germany ]</p>

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Personally I'd like to see Enfield win every match they play! However I do understand that: 1) That's not possible and 2) At this moment in time, money is a very important factor to the club.<p>I would have loved to have played Enfield Town in the final (and won it!! images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0 ) but as somebody else said earlier on, the Ryman League cup has more of a financial reward, and with crowds less than 100, we need all the money we can get!!
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