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Enfield won 3-2 in the 11th minute of added time after being 2-0 down.

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Jamie Richards and 2 from Jeff Hammond winner in the 97th min

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John Taverner played 18 minutes added time according to the NLP! Value for money?

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Is it ethical for a well known former EFC fan (Tav), to officiate on games involving his team.??

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LS - you beat me to it, how can a guy who lives in enfield, and being an enfield supporter officate at any of their games?

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Do you think that ALL the refs throughout football never officiate at teams they do or have supported or games that have a bearing on such clubs league positions?
So long as a ref is fair to both sides then that is the most important thing.
Subs,injuries and sendings off all add time.
The last time I saw him ref an Enfield game Enfield had more complaints about him than the opposition.

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I bet not many other non-league refs officiate teams whom they have stood on the terraces chanting and singing for, year after year.

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So what is the difference to a league official who stood on the terraces cheering his team on and then went on to officiate their games?
We all know our non-league team is as important to us as any league team is to its supporters.
Personally i would always trust him to be a git,i mean be fair to both sides no matter what the game is.

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Can you name a league ref who has officiated his team,so soon after being a supporter of that club?

I'm not talking about reffing a team you just support,i'm talking about reffing a team you followed avidly home and away only a few years before.

I'm not for one minute saying that J.Tavener is not totally impartial.I'm saying he shouldn't be put in a position where any acussations of bias could be levelled against him.As such,i think the league are making a mistake by allowing him to ref Enfield games.

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this is the ref who has sent off 3 players in 4 games this year cost us the youth title last year and yes i have asked not to have him as he is more leniant to the opponents and more harsh on us as to show he is not byast. and he played 13min over i asked him why and he said there keeper was down for 7 min with an injury the rest was subs comming on and timewasting from edgware

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Can you name a league ref who has officiated his team,so soon after being a supporter of that club?

I'm not talking about reffing a team you just support,i'm talking about reffing a team you followed avidly home and away only a few years before.

I'm not for one minute saying that J.Tavener is not totally impartial.I'm saying he shouldn't be put in a position where any acussations of bias could be levelled against him.As such,i think the league are making a mistake by allowing him to ref Enfield games.


Probably better that he referees games that EFC expect to win, rather than presiding over too many Brook House or Hertford games. Playing 'next goal wins' at either with either of those teams would surely give the Ryamn league something to think about. Refereeing EFC is perhaps the lowest risk.

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Would non league refs add on as much time at the end of the second half IF they had to show it on an electronic board,as they do in the premiership.

I doubt any ref would have the bottle to put 18 minutes up on the board for time added.I don't think i've ever seen more than 6 minutes added on in the premiership even when the game has been stopped for much longer because of injuries.

18 minutes is nothing for ETFC fans. Home games in the ESL rarely finish before 5pm on saturdays.We had 22 minutes added last season in one game.

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In fact it is usual practice for leagues to appoint officials from areas where neither team comes from, if you see what I mean. In the Premiership and League it is done by the County of your registration. At Junior level (which means status, not age) you are asked to declare any past or present connection with any club in that league.

For convenience, however, outside the top flights, this may be compromised sometimes. For example, I once ran the line in an Enfield v Waltham Abbey reserve game (Essex and Herts Border Combination) as it was a midweek game, and it was considered more beneficial to have officials not travelling too far.

I am very suprised though that at Step 4 an official was appointed to his "home" town club. I do not suggest for a moment that the referee concerned was influenced in any way, but the point is, appointments are made from "neutral" geographical areas to avoid any suggestion of bias. Justice has not only to be done, bot to be seen to be done.

Then of course it was the Ryman League..........

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There is a ref/lino dont know his name! just know he has a mullet, who is a hertford fan and admitted it too!!! we have had him 4/5 times this year and only won one of those games!! the others he was refing on Hertford away lost 4-0, Abingdon away lost 1-0 are just two of his games I can remember(am sure someone can remember the others). it's not just John Tav that get's them!!! just keep that in mind please people!!!

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I know exactly who you mean and next time I see him warming up I'll head straight to the bar and stay there.




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