Every respect for what Jamie has achieved ! Happen it is still "too little too late".
Just like marriage... he would be well advised to remember that this is where the hard work starts !
To run a little further with a theme...
In this day and age I see today's youth largely spoiled by amongst other things - this PC cr@pola
To my mind, the major bugbear is all the mollycoddling and lack of opportunity to learn how to do respect.
Kids are neither taught how to learn (check out the constant and consistent lowering of examination standards in an attempt to brush this under the carpet) nor taught how to give and earn respect.
Whilst I agree with the "assault" lobby in a lot of respects, I was also brought up where receiving a caning for misdemeanours was a quite normal part of life.
All mammals above a certain mental capability teach their young appropriate and inappropriate behaviours with the help of some form of physical reprimand... why shoulc humans be different ?
With this in mind, coupled with being sufficiently intellectually capable of defining my own experiences against the common zeitgeist, I find myself unable to agree wholeheartedly with the "ban corporal punishment" movement - "Spare the rod and spoil the child" I agree with... and I certainly think that the latter statement has been proved in recent times.
I would also very much favour the re-introduction of some de-militarised form of "National Service" with an overweaning emphasis upon teaching practical capability, self respect (how do you respect others if you do not know how to respect yourself ?), survival issues and suchlike.
Get a little "gumption" back into the kids !
One last rejoinder to Invis... I am very sorry but I strongly object to the very glib mention of the word/concept of "termination" used in your previous posting.
Do not get me wrong, I am not one of those feral anti-abortionists... however, I am the father of five children, one of whom we were told would likely be born deformed whilst he was still in utero.
The diagnosis was proven entirely incorrect eventually, but gave us indescribable heartache until such point as we were able to determine that he was OK.
I would like to say that I think that termination is Ok, but only under certain extreme conditions.
If the child to be born was not able to survive under any circumstance ex utero; or it were clinically proven that whilst the child might live, that it's quality of life would be negligible - then perhaps early termination might be justified.
There is certainly no humane reason for allowing a pregnancy to evolve further than (at the very most) 12 weeks if it is to be terminated (and I am still extremely uncomfortable allowing this).
In the circumstances of rape pregnancy, I understand that there are more difficult principles to consider, however - I will always now lean toward the rights of the unborn child to live.
Apologies for the mish-mash of thoughts and suchlike... just felt I had to get them off my chest. Hope it will spark some dialogue...