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Sorry to break the news but Walton Casuals and Lymington &New Milton were successful in their appeals meaning that Didcot and Winchester City will not be promoted.

However the case for Enfield is still unclear as it was stated at the start of the season that 2 clubs from the Isthmian Division 2 could be in the play-offs.

So Enfield could find themselves in a play-off with 1 of the other 9 clubs.

Whatever the outcome their will deffinatley be a play-off as now have 9 clubs but only 8 promotion places!!!! My webpageWomble Till I Die

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What a farce. They should not have announced any promotions until an appeal deadline had passed.

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The news re the appeals is on Non league Daily.
Typical of the FA to lead us astray

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From The FA Website

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Appeals upheld
Tuesday, 10 May 2005.

The Appeals lodged by Lymington & New Milton FC and Walton Casuals FC against the decisions not to award the clubs a Grade E category have today been heard by The Football Association.

The Appeals were both upheld. This now means that there are nine champion clubs eligible to be considered for promotion to Step 4 of the National League System.

As only eight places are available, a play-off match will need to be arranged and further details will be announced tomorrow.

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Reading that again it does not give any indication on the status of Enfield FC. Are they going into the play offs or not. Again it makes this whole issue a complete farce.

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Reading that again it does not give any indication on the status of Enfield FC. Are they going into the play offs or not. Again it makes this whole issue a complete farce.
If it was a pre season agreement between the ryman and F A then yes they should be included. But the Football authorities have totally lost the plot and make up new ones. And now whatever these prats do they'll upset some club somewhere.

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I agree with you completely SHADOW, they could not organise a **** up in a brewery.

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It doesn't look too clever for E's and you have to have sympathy for the clubs that are to play off. Two monster [****!!****] ups in one season(unibond farse also)means the F A have totally surpassed themselves this time. When will they ever get it right.

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enfield fc will not be contesting the play off it will be two of the nine champion clubs

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Sorry to break this to all you Enfield supporters but this has been posted on another forum:-

'it has previously been made quite clear by the FA, when they initially superceeded the "Second placed Isthmian Two Club to be considered equivalent to the Isthmian Two Champion" - that the second placed team in the Isthmian Second Division would only be favoured this season, by being allowed to compete in any necessary play-offs - even though their champion club had already been promoted, if such play-offs were to be required to fill any unfilled vacancies after championship winning teams had all been considered.

You Didcot, Enfield & Winchester folks do have my sympathies, however the situation had been made plain before.'

So there you go looks like it's 9 clubs going into the hat for the play-off(s).

You can read the full forum here http://www.soccerlin...st_reply;so=ASC

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Shouldn't Walton and Lymington play off for the last place.????

If there is a draw for the nine remaining clubs,when will the draw be.I presume it will be first two out of the hat play-off against eachother.the seven left in the 'hat' get byes.

ETFC got stitched up by the Ryman last season,and it seems EFC had fallen foul to their incompetence this season. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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you can blame the ryman if you want ls but it was the fa that cocked it up for the second year for us

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Shouldn't Walton and Lymington play off for the last place.????

If there is a draw for the nine remaining clubs,when will the draw be.I presume it will be first two out of the hat play-off against eachother.the seven left in the 'hat' get byes.


Surely the 7 clubs with the best records (points per game average) should be promoted automatically, and the other two play off?

I can't speak for the club and other fans, but personally I'm not that bothered that we're staying down. We've had the best season league wise since Borg was in charge, and a great Vase run, on top of that we got some good crowds when we played in the local derbies. If Macca stays, and we hold on to some of our better players, I don't see any reason why we can't go the whole distance next year.

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Firstly to lovely stuff NO it should not be Walton Casuals and Lymington & New Milton who have to play-off as not their fault the initial inspection failed their ground. They rightly appealed against the decision and the FA agreed so should now be treated in the same way as the other 7 clubs!!

Secondly to MKJames how can you decide which clubs have a better playing record when the leagues could be of different strengths and I also don't think all the leagues have the same amount of clubs in them. At end of season if clubs were all ready promoted they may of not played to their best as this was not a process in place at begining of season!

As for who's to blame surely the Isthmian cocked up bt saying it could promote 2 clubs, when in fact this was only possible if less than 8 eligible clubs, and the National League System who looked over the inspections but did not send the same people to 2nd inspection as went to 1st. As for the FA they had to go on the evidence at the appeal hearings and decide so can't blame them really much the same as the ruling on the points in the Northern Premier League Premier where the FA had to rule that Spennymoor's unplayed matches had to be given as a win for remaining clubs it was the officials of that league that messed up by not sorting out sooner!

In my opinion the FA should look at kicking Spennymoor out thus creating a space in Step 4 meaning all 9 eligible clubs at Step 5 can be promoted rather than reprieving a relegated club.

Seems very fair and simple and surely better to reward success over failure!!

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Yep, sounds very fair, simple and logical Slough Womble - so the FA can't possibly consider it.

I still say the third from bottom clubs at Step 4 should play off to avoid relegation to make way for CHAMPION clubs. Or let one Step 4 league have 23 clubs for a season, as someone (cwc?) suggested on another forum.

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http://www.nonleague...0/page/0#525562

The appeals could turn out to be a blessing for EFC.

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The appeals could turn out to be a blessing for EFC.


They were!!

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http://www.thefa.com...onsResolved.htm

Looking forward to Boxing Day already!!

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Its looking like a couple of big derby games coming up in the Div 1 next season.Plus Cheshunt.

It could get very interesting.

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Oh dam ,A middle of the stand Job for me again.




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