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Any Bright sparks who thought that London was safe from a Terror Attack ? Hindsight is such a luxury, not for the people murdered of course.

People still worried about the human rights of the Guantonomo Bay Detainee's ? Oh and by the way the 4 Cowards who murdered 52 people made trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, from where a number of the detainee's were seized. Presumably a war of terror, where Terroists can pick and choose whom they attack, are granted legal aid and the sympathy of the British Media and British Pinko's.
What a great thought for the British Men and Women in Iraq, and a comfort for the people within the UK.

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Well said MHL !!

Bliar only made one mistake. - He used WMD as the excuse for going to war, when all he had to say was that we were removing a murdering b@stard to enjoyed slaughtering his own people !

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Bliar only made one mistake. - He used WMD as the excuse for going to war, when all he had to say was that we were removing a murdering b@stard to enjoyed slaughtering his own people !

I think that was the point, but you know the media and the government would never have gone for that as a reason for going to war

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Why not Grimlock ?

Not many bleeding heart pinko's spouting off yet because our marksmen got the 'wrong-man' at Stockwell !

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To be honest the shooting in Stockwell was terrible. However in the policemans defence, a choice has to be made. The guy had jumped the barriers and had made a run for it to the train. Considering that attacks had been made in recent weeks the policeman either had to let the guy go and risk an attack or kill him. A tough decision knowing now what we know.

He may not be a bomber, but why was he running? He had been called over by a policeman and decided to run instead.

Its unfortunate but not a wrong decision considering the situation in London right now. Five bullets at close range is wrong though. Why five?

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Apparently they have to be absolutely certain that he is dead lest his twitching body detonates the bomb.

Its interesting that Joe Public is told to carry on as normal so that the terrorists don't win by changing our way of life - yet the police have changed their policy and many people seem to think it is perfectly acceptable.

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well I for one think its acceptable...and I'll tell you one of the reasons why...

my son was in Iraq during the last gulf war and saw attrocities perpertrated by arab to arab that have changed his life....

he was doing his job...the same as you will be doing in the morning....

or do you not consider our security forces as doing 'a job'....

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When did the rules for the police change? Are you sure they've changecd at all or is it the situation that the media has highlighted existing rules.

It now appears that the victim had an expired visa and ran because of that. Also he may have been listening to an Ipod at the same time. However I cant see that explaining how he knew they were policemen (being plain clothed).

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The rules have been changed - following consultation with other forces around the world including the Israelis. The police are trained to shoot at the biggest mass in the body - the torso in order to immobilise the target. This can't be used on suicide bombers as they may still be able to detonate the bomb or if it was strapped to them shooting them would also detonate it.

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these are not policemen as we know them from normal daily life...these are armed response agents trained to almost sas standards and utilised for emergencies throughout the capital (and other major cities when needed)

look at the facts

the guy had been here for 3 years
the guy spoke fluent english
the guy jumped a barrier when asked to stop and lie down with his hands behind his head
the guy was fully aware that the capital was on a high state of armed police alert
the guy was in london and saw the devastation caused by the 7/7 bombers
'Police Stop' is and international language as is a pointed gun
the guy should not have been here anyway as he had no visa

as regretable as the incident was the policeman in question in my opinion did the right thing.

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Highly significant that he had an expired Visa, should the authorities responsible for handling Visa's and applications for Immigrants not be made responsible for this mans death ? Extra strain on the Police when we have people in this country whom have not adhered to our asylum or immigration rules, or have exploited them. How are the Poice expected to keep tabs on people when we there are so many unknowns who work here ?
I understand that the 4 bomb suspects who are still are large are East African ? Are they British born East Africans ?
Aside from the Jamacian Bomber from 7/7 the others were British born Pakistani's who evidently were allowed to come and go as they pleased between Pakistan and England, is this a trangression on this country's legal system ?

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this countries 'legal system' along with cherie blairs pension known as the 'human rights act' are all transgressions on OUR freedom..

truth is that the policies of new labour are coming home to roost and blair will bluff it out as he always does and the simpering lemmings known as the 'electorate' will let him...




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