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[/quote] It may be forced upon us by the council wether we like it or not. But at the end of the day I say what the majority vote for AT BOTH CLUBS I'LL GO ALONG WITH............Squadron leader Mr Laz has been gone for two years
<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/megaphon.gif" alt="" /> Havent you heard. [/quote]
I'm confused here. There was a vast majority vote a few years ago to form a new club, yet those who disagreed with that continued to keep the name of EFC alive. To me, EFC has nothing to offer ETFC, not even it's history, I'm afraid, as that history now includes some huge defeats over the past 4 years. Also, if ETFC gain promotion, and EFC are relegated (not unlikely on either count) don't FA regulations state that when clubs merge they must take up the league stutus of the lower ranked club? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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'It may be forced upon us by the council wether we like it or not.'

Where is the logic in this and how can a Council force two teams to join forces? One team plays in the borough yet the other plays in Herts. What right has the Council to force a Herts team to join an Enfield based team.

They could suggest that it may be in both teams' interests to amalgamate and the sweetner could be a plot of land to build a stadium or it could suggest that both teams ground share in a
new stadium.

Don't forget that there are Council elections in May. Anything can happen!

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ok all i say to you then is hard luck

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Good to see you up and about, Russ.

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I dont think the council will offer anything like a plot of land for a stadium, i think the best anyone can hope for from that mob is a smelly bag of rubbish left outstde the ex recycling depot at carterhatch lane.

as for all that jibberish about promotion, relegation etc etc - whilst its true about the taking up of the lower ranked clubs position, looking at the way things are going in reality neither club will be going anywhere this season.

more to the point could the townies affoard the additional costs of playing at the next level. weekly player budgets of £2500 per week, added on to that comes the travelling of approx £15-20k per season for the league games. It would take a good FA Cup run to finance that little lot at the moment.
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Your post is one of the reasons why I am sceptical about a merger.

EFC lack ambition.

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were not the only ones who lack ambition u can say that about sudbury and ive heard about a side who are throwin games coz they cant afford the extra travlin costs if they go up but like mike newell ive no written evidence its all hearsay never mind that wot about all u guys who just fink the council will give us a ground wot sort of substances are u on id like sum of that why wood the council do that that land is prime estate for sum more key worker homes or a leisure centre or sumthing like that sumfink that wood benefit the community money talks and neither of us clubs have got any did any of u see the non league paper on friday im talkin about how much hendon wood have to spend to upgrade copthall it woz sumfink like 500k-1M now how can steve whittington and dave bryant etc afford that maybe we could get sum money from the football trust or woteva its called but its a big ask to be honest theres more chance of nikki 50/50 gettin married to boy george then there is of the council just givin us a ground looks like your stuck at brimmo and were at ware in the meantime oh yeah for wot its worth a merger makes sense but thats up to the big cheeses to sort it all out by the way nice to see u on here sir garfield wot a top batsman u were i doff my cap to u sir next pint is on me see u saturday

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I'm all in a favour of a merger. But certain criteria have to be met. That sort of stuff can be sorted out by negotiation. I believe there is lots of common ground and I also believe Enfield cannot support 2 senior non league clubs. And don't any Town supporter now say "there is only one senior club Enfield Town". I'm very proud of being a Town supporter but I am also fed up at having to explain that I am not an Enfield supporter. The Town was a means to an end and is an enjoyable ride but the "main" reason I got on the ride is now gone and maybe we should get off the rollercoaster and get on the waltzers.

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I believe it is possible and financialy viable for a non-league club to progress and stay in the Nationwide conference,if they attract 1000 people to home games and have their own bar and function room receits.I believe its possible to get to Conference South level and stay there if you can attract 600 people a game and have our own bar and function room receits.

Obviously neither club or a merged club could afford to build a confernce grade stadium with bar and function rooms.Our only hope (and it looks a lot nearer that it ever has done),is that Enfield council may (may) help fund a stadium in the borough.Plenty of other councils have paid for grounds for their football clubs (Cambridge Council/Brighton Council/Dartford Council..etc).Why not Enfield council?And what with money coming in from the Olympic fund to biuld new facilities,it may leave space available to accomadate the boroughs football team.

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May i clarify ,that i want one club in Enfield and representing Enfield.
It may be forced upon us by the council wether we like it or not. But at the end of the day I say what the majority vote for AT BOTH CLUBS I'LL GO ALONG WITH............Squadron leader Mr Laz has been gone for two years
<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/megaphon.gif" alt="" /> Havent you heard.


Yes I am well aware of that you Numpty, I just don't want a Merger of the two clubs. In any case my opinion has'nt got anything to with with that "Twonk" anyway.

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hi andy how are you i cant believe that all these people dont want a merger think of the people that would love to see the team enfield again it will happen and its going to happen i wish you well my friend

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hi andy how are you i cant believe that all these people dont want a merger think of the people that would love to see the team enfield again it will happen and its going to happen i wish you well my friend

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If this so called "Merger" is going to happen, it will be without me & many others Towners.

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IF it was to be seriously proposed by the Boards of both clubs (and I don't think it will) I am sure it would have to be put to the vote, certainly at our club at least.

I would cast my vote as I saw fit, and whatever the outcome, I would happily abide by the result of the vote.

I see no resaon for a merger at present, although I would not object if it did. In the event that EFC moved back to the borough I believe it would be essential for both clubs.

But as I say, I reckon it's academic as it won't happen, so our bread pudding is safe. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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If this so called "Merger" is going to happen, it will be without me & many others Towners.


Why?You supported EFC before the split.You support ETFC now.We are ENFIELD supporters.What we have created at the Town is a great base,it something special and reminisent of the old club before Laz.Why would you not want to incorperate other ENFIELD fans into the set-up we have at the Town.Both clubs that you have supported past and present will be reunited.

I've a feeling that some people at the Town are very happy in their roles, happy to keep the club closeknit and for it to have a family feel..etc.Its very cozy.But when i voted to form the new club, it was to try to recapute the glory days and to once again reach the top of non-league football.i believe this can be best done by uniting football in Enfield.

Look at Wealstone,Look at Maidstone,look at Dartford. Those teams regrouped long before Enfield Town,but they are all still plodding along in the middle ranges of the pyramid with little chance of recaputing their past glories. I don't want that to happen to Enfield Town.

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I'm surprised by the very negative attitude towards a merger. As i said before I would be in favour providing certain criteria are met. I feel there is a lot of common ground and also that a merger could be of benefit of both clubs. If a majority of Town supporters voted in favour of a merger are you saying you would go against the majority and refuse to join the new club? Personally I feel the split is about 50/50 so if a vote did ever happen it would be very interesting. I dont want to end up with the same in reverse. ie A majority of supporters voting in favour of a merger but some people sticking with Town. Not saying it will happen but it could. I'm always open to a healthy debate on the subject.

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I'm surprised by the very negative attitude towards a merger. As i said before I would be in favour providing certain criteria are met. I feel there is a lot of common ground and also that a merger could be of benefit of both clubs. If a majority of Town supporters voted in favour of a merger are you saying you would go against the majority and refuse to join the new club? Personally I feel the split is about 50/50 so if a vote did ever happen it would be very interesting. I dont want to end up with the same in reverse. ie A majority of supporters voting in favour of a merger but some people sticking with Town. Not saying it will happen but it could. I'm always open to a healthy debate on the subject.


Can't see why you're surprised that some people are negative, after all it was the supporters who decided that enough was enough by a huge majority, that it was time to move on & create something new, they clearly want to follow it through, otherwise what has the point been for the last few years?.
Personally speaking if it ever comes to a vote I'll go by the majority decision.

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But to be so negative is surprising. I was in favour of setting up Town and I am pleased we did but my mind is always open to a merger if I felt it was of benefit to the Club. Likewise if I felt the merger wasnt to our benefit and/or certain criteria were not met then i will vote against it. I wouldnt dismiss it out of hand so readily.

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L.S.

Might be senile but I see we have the same burning ambition. Perhaps that is a sign of senility.

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I've said all along that if people really want an Enfield side that will challenge at the highest levels of non-league football, then we need just one club, one way or another, whatever it takes. Surely that's what everyone wants. Nobody can seriously tell me they'd rather play Hullbridge or Aveley than be knocking about with old rivals like Dagenham & Woking.

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