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So the two trials in the last week we see The geeky twin brothers and their friend get light sentences of just 9 years each for murdering their own grandmother . The week before we see a group of happy slappers who kicked an innocent man to death just to photo their dispicable lust .Just twelve years each handed out for this scum and 8 years for the girl with the camera/phone.You can bet your A*SE that this lot of scum will be out on the streets in 5 years You can see why they do it as their is no deterrant. THE ONLY WAY FORWARD IS TO REINTRODUCE a lengh of rope and a trap door. I dont know what the majority of decent people think But I've had enough of all this pussy footing about .I would gladly pull the trap door lever myself if it would clean up the scum elements that now live amounst us.


You're not overly concerned about miscarriages of justice then, which in the case of capital punishment carry a sentence that cannot be reversed?
In this day and age where forensic science can prove without any shadow of a doubt who the murderous scum are then NO .....stretch their worthless necks and have done with it. And I dare say some christian type will tell me they dont believe in the death penalty..... They never do until one of their own gets it.

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well put EB, tell it like it should be and not as it is... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applaus.gif" alt="" />

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Enfield Blade said:In this day and age where forensic science can prove without any shadow of a doubt who the murderous scum are then NO



DNA profiles can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, maybe, but you have to have a DNA sample to work with first. Forensic science is by no means foolproof.

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DNA samples are not 100% I.E. if an individual has had a marrow transplant or in some cases a blood transplant you can achieve a change in DNA reading? lets remember that when discovered and first used fingerprints were believed to be 100%, finding fingerprints at the scene of a crime is now a much less damning piece of evidence

I still believe it to be the Vicar in the library with a hammer

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When it comes to DNA samples, everyone has a unique DNA fingerprint, except for identical twins!

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Check again, bone marrow transplant can alter the DNA

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Check again, bone marrow transplant can alter the DNA


This only applies to blood samples. If cheek swaps are taken for DNA sample (as in the UK) then the DNA will not be affected.

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DNA evidence cannot prove that anyone committed a crime. It can place a suspect at the scene of the crime or at least some fibres or tissue belonging to the suspect at the scene. Or in the alternative there could be evidence that the victim was in contact with suspect. This is no way proves that 1) an offence took place or 2) there is not some other explanation for the sample's presence. Nothing is black and white which is why the criminal justice system has so many checks and balances in place in an effort to prevent and correct miscarriages of justice. Capital punishment would be a massive step in the wrong direction.

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Quite correct Martin. DNA extracted from a sample (assuming that a sample is available) can show a very high likelihood (not 100%) of a match with another sample. Obviously you have to have a sample from your suspect as well. In the case of rape, this can demonstrate the identity of the perpetrator beyond reasonable doubt but as you say in many other cases it wil only demonstrate presence.

DNA samples are also very susceptible to contamination. It is certainly a powerful technique but not the magic be-all and end-all that people seem to think.

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So it may not have been the Vicar?

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the death penalty seems to work wonders for the violent crime rate for our chubby friends across the pond doesn't it? Oh wait, it doesn't...

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So it may not have been the Vicar?



I believe all the plastic cards and counters in Cluedo share a common DNA, and therefore it could have been any of them in any of the rooms with any of the weapons.

Hang the lot of 'em, I say! Only way to be sure.

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Well another week which saw a scumbag get off Mr sion Jenkins may the rest of your life be that you live in fear you [****!!****]. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />GGRRRR

Mr Barrymore and his sissy cronies have all but got away with some poor chaps death . Bunch of faggot bastards. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />GGRRR

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Not sure about Mr Jenkins. Something 'fishy', yes, but a very big element of doubt.

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Today's mirror FRONT PAGE......! Just when you think sentence's couldn't get any lighter .Along comes some nob with no license and of course no insurance in a stolen car .He runs down a 3 year old child and kills her AND GUESS BLOODY WHAT the sh*tbag only gets a mere 12 weeks in the slammer. Her grandfather rightly points out that shoplifters get more of a sentence . WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR PATHETIC JUSTICE SYSTEM. IT SUCKS LIKE NOTHING HAS SUCKED BEFORE ..... The only people its fair too is the f***ing criminals <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" /> It makes my blood boil so much I could seethe. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />




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