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i also agree i've had 25+years of suporting the great enfield life goes on enfield have a history and now the towners have a history

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Shame, because a united club with a united group fans behind one club would have far greater say with the powers that be in relation to a new ground in the Borough.
Thanks for the constructive comments .Steve Whittington has told us today that Enfield F C will remain as it currently is. The board are not interested in any merger talks for the foreseeable future. However Mr Whittington and the rest of the management committee are willing to discuss with Enfield Council and the Board members of Enfield Town F C as regards to a joint venture in the matter of Donkey Lane stadium . Working together on this project may just secure the future of football in Enfield and Its what we as football loving people all truly want.This would be a major step in the right direction for everybody concerned . Mr Whittington would also like to point out that Enfield F C still have a pool of funds from the football foundation which to this day remains untouched which would of course be spent on the stadium itself. Mr Whittington would like to wish you all a Happy Christmas and looks forward to your company on the 30th of december.

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Royal Enfield.Thanks for clarifying your Chairmans position.

In my opinion Enfield council would only be pressured and influenced by a single united Enfield club.I doubt a joint approach to them about Donkey Lane will have much more influence than seperate approaches from the two respective clubs.

The fact remains, that with EFC out the borough,the councils favour and preference lies with ETFC.What if Town secure Donkey Lane?Where will that leave EFC if that happens? It seems your chaiman is comfortable in where the club is at present and comfortable with how the future may pan out,but things change fast in football.What if his club start struggling financially or on the pitch?What if he finds ETFC in a new stadium in Enfield and his club stranded forever out of the borough?

Refusing merger talks whilst in a decent position could prove fatal,because if he changes his mind a few years down the line when things have gone pear shaped,he could well find that the boat has sailed and the olive branch has been well and truely withdrawn.

I would personally be prepared to work and share facilities with EFC, if that was the best way to secure a conference grade ground in Enfield for my club,but i'd rather have a ground exclusively for my own club in Enfield and NOT share it with anyone else.I'm sure most EFC fans feel the same.

To be honest i'm less convinced of a merger by the day.Maily because of the lack of enthusiasm from EFC's chairman,and as a result,his fans.To be honest the parties have probably now been apart far too long ever to come back together.
Maybe thats your chairmans first goal in his grand scheme,ticked off the sheet?

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Royal Enfield.Thanks for clarifying your Chairmans position.

In my opinion Enfield council would only be pressured and influenced by a single united Enfield club.I doubt a joint approach to them about Donkey Lane will have much more influence than seperate approaches from the two respective clubs.

The fact remains, that with EFC out the borough,the councils favour and preference lies with ETFC.What if Town secure Donkey Lane?Where will that leave EFC if that happens? It seems your chaiman is comfortable in where the club is at present and comfortable with how the future may pan out,but things change fast in football.What if his club start struggling financially or on the pitch?What if he finds ETFC in a new stadium in Enfield and his club stranded forever out of the borough?

Refusing merger talks whilst in a decent position could prove fatal,because if he changes his mind a few years down the line when things have gone pear shaped,he could well find that the boat has sailed and the olive branch has been well and truely withdrawn.

I would personally be prepared to work and share facilities with EFC, if that was the best way to secure a conference grade ground in Enfield for my club,but i'd rather have a ground exclusively for my own club in Enfield and NOT share it with anyone else.I'm sure most EFC fans feel the same.

To be honest i'm less convinced of a merger by the day.Maily because of the lack of enthusiasm from EFC's chairman,and as a result,his fans.To be honest the parties have probably now been apart far too long ever to come back together.
Maybe thats your chairmans first goal in his grand scheme,ticked off the sheet?


Just a thought. What's to say if EFC do well and ETFC begin to slip up? Or, the Council's administration changes and there is a different focus from the people at the top?

I think we should not take everything for granted.

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Last Tuesday evening I was at the Braintree Council Planning Committee meeting for a work item.
On the same Agenda was an application by Braintree Town Football Club regarding various improvements to their ground.
Our old friend Lee Harding presented the Clubs case and without going into all of the details. Members of the Committee ( That's all the local Councillors )were extremely enthusiastic to hear about "the progression of their Club" and unanimously approved the application.
A number of the Councillors made their brief "political statement" in support of their Club and the great position they were in and furthermore how well they represented the Town of Braintree.
Just shows what can be done with the support of the Local Council. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applaus.gif" alt="" />
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Indeed. Some councils do, some councils don't.

As I've posted before, I am pro-merger. I don't think it will ever happen, but I think it should.

I see problems with ground sharing. Both clubs presumably need to generate income from the facilities other than gate money - bat takings, lettings and so on. How would this work? Would the landlord cop the lot?

Secondly, and just as importantly, as has been mentiponed above, both clubs would be competing for the same fan base. It is more difficult in a London borough than in a small town, as there are also two Premiership clubs in easy distance (and several others not very hard to get to).

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- bat takings, lettings and so on. H


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Indeed. Some councils do, some councils don't.

As I've posted before, I am pro-merger. I don't think it will ever happen, but I think it should.

I see problems with ground sharing. Both clubs presumably need to generate income from the facilities other than gate money - bat takings, lettings and so on. How would this work? Would the landlord cop the lot?

Secondly, and just as importantly, as has been mentiponed above, both clubs would be competing for the same fan base. It is more difficult in a London borough than in a small town, as there are also two Premiership clubs in easy distance (and several others not very hard to get to).
A shared stadium IS A START but I suspect it would take a long time for a united Enfield to come about . The cost to convert the old athletics stadium into a conference class ground would stretch both clubs resorces to their limits ,I very much doubt one could manage it without the others help . If the Town got donkey lane on their own ,Enfield would most likely spend the football foundation grants that are available on someone elses facility and that wont help either of us. We both need this stadium ,so is it too much to ask for both clubs to co-operate on this one issue alone. As far as clubhouse takings go both of us have lived without them for long enough now so a little while longer wont hurt too much. Its possible both could have their own clubhouses in time .I know there is an existing clubhouse on the site although I believe some Rugby club has the existing lease on it . Perhaps the old caf'e could be turned into one . It would be a crying shame if our local council flog it off to developers and what a waste with that big old stand being torn down. I do believe the buildings attached to it have a preservation order .So perhaps Enfield council may just allow both clubs to use it so it would be in use every week.




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