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well, I worry about someone if their life is ruled by something which has been proven to shorten lives.

what a stupid comment, it is an addiction for many people. its not simply something to do!

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I’m very pleased that this rule has finally been granted from July next year onwards.

I’ve become sick and tired of trying to eat a meal in a pub/restaurant and having the foul stench of cigarette smoke ruin my meal.

Nearly every time I go to the pub no matter where I sit, I come home with my clothes and coat stinking of cigarette fumes, the smell has made me feel ill at times.

I’m a staunch anti-smoker and if people want to smoke then that’s fine but not anywhere near me. None of my close friends smoke and the only person who does in my family is my Uncle and although he smokes roll ups he never does this indoors.

The moment that created my hatred of smoking was sitting in a hospital waiting room as a 11 year old child whilst my nan was seriously ill not being able to breath and my eyes watering because the cigarette smoke was so thick!!! And this was in a hospital, hardly healthy, eh?

This ruling could not come soon enough in my opinion.

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well, I worry about someone if their life is ruled by something which has been proven to shorten lives.

what a stupid comment, it is an addiction for many people. its not simply something to do!


It was a choice to start smoking, addiction is just an excuse to continue.

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that is total rubbish. addiction is not an excuse. people start smoking in all sections of society and for all different reasons. I dont personally smoke, but can see why people cannot stop. all the self help/hypnotism/gum/patches are because an addiction IS NOT just an excuse to keep smoking. People like you will still be going to the "boring arms" its just that many more pubs will become as boring. pubs are historically bad places where bad people can do bad stuff, gambling/smoking/drinking in excess etc etc. yo ucan keep your poncey wine bars and family restaurant pubs (which if we r being honest are where poor people take their family for a "slap up meal")
I do not agree with this law as you could say it was the bar staff's choice to work in a pub, there are plenty of other crap jobs, like shelf stacking, binman and the like for barstaff to do.
the motorist is gonna pay for this law. And i am a motorist.
i would rather the smokers paid their taxes and left the already persecuted motorist alone.

they should at least have left the member club part of the law.

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What ever the reason people use it is still their choice to start smoking.

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you live/have lived a blinkered life. but that is your choice.

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All this is making me want to go for a fag :-)

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you live/have lived a blinkered life. but that is your choice.


So why would believing that people have been forced to start smoking be the right thing? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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yeah forced, thats right, the marlboro press gangs are rife in rural england. twat

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You said that smoking was not a choice not me, so make your mind up.

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yeah forced, thats right, the marlboro press gangs are rife in rural england.



oh the sincerity of this statement

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To start Smoking is a choice--its easy you do or you dont.

to stop smoking is a choice--its just seems a lot harder to stop then to start.

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chilled out entertainer said: family restaurant pubs (which if we r being honest are where poor people take their family for a "slap up meal")



Or where new fathers go with a kid when they haven't been in the pub for ages and are f***ing dying for a pint!

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To start Smoking is a choice--its easy you do or you dont.

to stop smoking is a choice--its just seems a lot harder to stop then to start.


you should write a book solving all the worlds problems.

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I'm still trying to give up I was a 40 a dayer but now down to 20 or less . It was a bad choice as a teenager that hooked me . Always regretted it . <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rasta.gif" alt="" />

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well, I worry about someone if their life is ruled by something which has been proven to shorten lives.

what a stupid comment, it is an addiction for many people. its not simply something to do!


How is this a stupid comment? As has been mentioned earlier, it is entirely up to the individual whether they start smoking or not. Like all addictions, if you really wanted to give it up you would. It appears to me that there are some people in this world who are too stubborn/selfish/stupid to kick a habit with possibly fatal consequences. I guess they have nobody in their life worth living for.

Is this genuinely the view of this 'Entertainer' chap or is he simply trying to be contentious?

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It appears to me that there are some people in this world who are too stubborn/selfish/stupid to kick a habit with possibly fatal consequences. I guess they have nobody in their life worth living for.


That is unfair to say unless you have personally tried giving up and seeing first hand how hard it is. It has nothing to do with being selfish or stupid.

To say that smokers who don't give up have no one in their life worth living for is very unfair. It is a proven fact that cigarettes are harder to give up than heroin or any other drug.

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I guess they have nobody in their life worth living for.



does everybody you know smoke??

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There are very few people I know who smoke. I want to enjoy life and be with my friends and loved ones for as long as I can. I cannot comprehend why someone who has a good life with another could throw it away for a little white stick which gives them a brief 'kick'. Why can love not be enough?

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There are very few people I know who smoke. I want to enjoy life and be with my friends and loved ones for as long as I can. I cannot comprehend why someone who has a good life with another could throw it away for a little white stick which gives them a brief 'kick'. Why can love not be enough?


So you do not drink either?




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