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  1. I will try to clarify if I can. Firstly the proposed re-structure, if it goes ahead, which does seem likely, will have effect from season 2018-2019 so will have no bearing upon the situation at the end of the current season. Our rules are reasonably clear in that, ideally, we have a three up, three down procedure between the Premier Division and Division One. However, it is down to vacancies and it is always possible that only two (or even less in an extreme example) may be able to go up from Division One. It all depends upon club movements at the end of the season, as dictated by the FA. The situation will not become clear until the FA make their decisions as to who comes into our League and who goes out, when they consider promotion from the Premier Division to Step 4 and relegation from Step 4 to Step 5, along with any sideways movements. If, for example, our champion club goes up but two clubs are relegated to us from Step 4 (which happened two seasons ago when both Redhill and AFC Hayes came to us) and the bottom three are relegated, then if nothing else happened, we would have a net total of 21 clubs left in the Premier. In those circumstances only one would probably be able to go up from Division One as it is unlikely the FA would again allow us to have 23 clubs in the Prem, when every other Step 5 league has 22 or less, and they are looking to reduce our numbers the following season anyway. I don't think that will happen as the FA will be likely to adjust the situation through sideways movements but the bottom line is that clubs in Division One need to be aware now, that not all the top three may be able to go up which has always been the case. I strongly suspect that the FA will take note of such a situation and that one or more clubs currently in our Premier Division, or eligible for promotion from Div One, will be moved sideways at the end of the season. The situation regarding the likely re-structure for season 2018-2019 seems to be that around 16 additional clubs over the norm will have the opportunity to move up from Step 5 to Step 4, which is approximately one from each Step 5 league but nothing is certain yet and there is some supposition that the additional clubs will largely be selected from leagues in the north to correct an assumed imbalance. Quite what effect the whole thing will have upon our Division One remains to be seen, given that the four clubs without the full requirements of Grade G are due to forcefully relegated at the end of season 2017-2018 unless they can do the necessary work. It is perhaps worth bearing in mind that 2 or 3 promotion places from 16 or 18 clubs is maybe not too bad in comparison with the clubs in the Prem where it is usually 1 promotion place from 22 clubs (23 this season)
  2. Just Dorking v Farleigh to add to the above list. Everything else on as far as I know
  3. Sheerwater v Cobham, definitely on according to the club. Doubtful at NGU and Epsom Athletic. Unlikely to be able to give any updates after 11.00 a.m.
  4. Formatting not quite right but hopefully understandable
  5. I have now uploaded the Div One fixtures for Sat 13 August to Pitchero, although they sometimes take a while to appear. They have also been emailed to Div One club officials. They are as follows: DIVISION ONE Banstead Athletic v Bagshot 3.00 Chessington & Hook United v Ash United 3.00 Cove v Cobham 3.00 Eversley & California v Worcester Park 3.00 Farleigh Rovers v Dorking 3.00 Frimley Green v Redhill 3.00 Sheerwater v Balham 3.00 South Park Res v Epsom Athletic 3.00 Staines Lammas v AC London 3.00 The full annual list will be sent out next week.
  6. I have had one or two unexpected issues which have taken time to resolve. I hope to have them on the site and circulated to clubs later today or tomorrow morning at the latest. Apologies for delay.
  7. We have a bit of a daft situation at the moment in that there are 5 CCL web sites There is the "official" one which Mal (above) updates. I try to keep the Pitchero site updated with news, etc. We also have (or did have) Mitoo, although I think that can be written off now There is also Full-Time which is the quickest for results as it updates immediately clubs text them in (although the others are not far behind), whilst a gentleman by the name of Reg Miles also maintains an unofficial CCL web site. They all show fixtures and results and league table, etc. although, as I say, Mitoo can be disregarded now. We probably need to consolidate but without giving any secrets away, there is a difference of view within the Board as to which one we should choose. Some, of course, say the more the merrier!
  8. They are all on the CCL web site: http://combinedcounties.pitchero.com/match-info/fixtures/2016-08 There are no Div One fixtures for Sat 13/8 yet as I was waiting for a couple of clubs to confirm their ground availability. I have that info now and will put them on the web site later. It is correct that there is only one Div One fixture on Sat 6/8 as only two clubs in Div One (apart from those in the FA Cup) wanted to play on that date.
  9. League fixtures can not be put together until Ryman League publish their fixtures due to ground shares of Epsom & Ewell & Dorking at Ryman League clubs. The Ryman League fixtures are due out this Friday. The Southern League are also due to issue theirs this Friday. Some leagues don't have too many ground shares, if any, but if you try to anticipate fixtures involving clubs in ground share situations, it inevitably results in more alterations and we have enough of those as it is, thanks to postponements, cup runs, etc. I prefer to wait until I have as much information as possible but it is likely that those fixtures prior to Sat 6 August, for those clubs who have requested them, will be published hopefully on Friday of this week. My provisional fixture list for the whole season will hopefully be sent out 25/26 July at the latest but could be earlier if it all goes well.
  10. The Board met last night and accepted my recommendations for the start of the season, following the news about the FA Cup, and they can now be viewd on the web site. It makes for something of a messy start to the season but we are just trying to do our best for the clubs. League fixtures for the period 1 - 10 August will probably be announced earlier than the rest of the season..
  11. I don't believe we require permission to start on any particular date, although the FA do tell us the date by which we have to finish. I have now had views from many of our clubs and, having raised the matter with other Step 5/6 League Secretaries, I have been gathering their views as well. With one possible exception, most of the other leagues who have responded are as aggrieved as most of us, especially as there was no consultation whatsoever at our level and also because of the very late notice. Clubs and leagues could at least have prepared had the situation been known earlier. For your information, David Morrall, who is the Chairman of the NE Counties League and also the Chairman of the Step 5/6 Focus Group has asked all the Step 5/6 Leagues to give him their views, which will border on the unanimous I would think and he will take the matter up with relevant people at the FA in a bid to get matters changed for future seasons. The most popular option, and we are keen to help clubs as much as possible, is that we stick to Sat 13 August as the first full opening day for league matches but with the proviso that for any clubs who wish to get a league match in before the FA Cup, we will try to provide one w/c 1 August and maybe w/c 8 August. We will make a final decision at a Board meeting on 13 June and advise club secretaries the next day. We shall not though be asking clubs to play on the last Saturday in July
  12. Add Sandhurst v Farleigh to the list of postponements
  13. The following games are postponed so far today: PREMIER DIVISION AFC Hayes v SCR Badshot Lea v Knaphill Cove v Colliers Wood United (re-arranged for Tue 19 Apr) Westfield v Bedfont Sports DIVISION ONE Banstead Athletic v Sheerwater Dorking Wanderers Res v Ash United
  14. I tend to agree that it would be unfair and very disappointing for any club in Division One to be be denied promotion if, for example, two (or more) clubs are relegated into our Premier Division from Step 4 with only one going up. However, the possibility has to be pointed out (it is better that clubs know in advance rather than coming as a major shock in the middle of May) and it could be argued that there should only be two promotion places anyway in a division of just 17 clubs. However, should we have a rule to say that as many clubs will be relegated from the Premier Division as necessary so as to allow the top three in Division One to be guaranteed promotion? Would clubs in the Premier Division vote in favour if we did propose such a rule change? Most of our rules are dictated by the FA but I believe that we can still set our own regarding promotion/relegation and it is open to any Club Secretary to propose a rule change, so long as there is a seconder. It is on the cards that all Step 3 and 4 divisions will go back to 22 clubs at some stage in the future. That may also impact upon us and if in addition we were to be forced to reduce ourselves to 20 clubs, which I know would be the preferred option of some, we could find considerably more than 3 clubs being relegated at the end of the season in which the change takes place.
  15. Current projections (presumably taken from the TK forum) are no more than the instigator's predictions but with no inside knowledge and are often completely wrong - did any of them predict that AFC Hayes, for example, would come to us this season? Anyone can sit down with a map and make predictions but that is all it is. It won't be until after the May meetings at the FA that we will know who's going where, and every season there are surprises. Neither would I risk any money that Farnborough FC will be in the CCL next season.
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