Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Stu, what is worth a discussion, that Patman just wants an excuse to be upset? I care about the team's kit, but I did not vote. Is that OK. The team got my money, but I didn't vote about the kit, and I hurt them how? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blassberg 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I also don't intend voting for a team selection and formation unless it's based on some intelligence and good intent. And that's because I do care about not treating this venture lightly. There are fans with emotional investments and players / staff with livelihoods depending on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu M 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Both of you are ignoring my point though. I've said it's fine for people to abstain for whatever reason they deem fit. Neither of you have hurt the club in any way by doing so. But my point remains. Ten thousand or so have not voted and I would hazard a guess that the vast majority have done so for no other reason than apathy. Is this not a cause for concern come next year and renewals crunch time ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Future renewals? The team should plan properly with the money they have been given, and be greatful for any number of future renewals above 0. They have more money now than ever, and they are not hemmoraging cash anymore. What if nobody gives them any money next year, then they will have to do business like every other football team. I am just tired of criticism from people on this board. I root for The Fleet now, and I am a recent recruit. it seems there are some "long time fans" that hope they fail. PS What is Rex Quan Do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blassberg 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 hmmm - I don't know why someone would pay £35 and not join in... although I can understand if it was a poorly selected gift... And I certainly don't know why they would renew... so you have a point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I paid 35 pounds (don't have that capital L like symbol on my keyboard) to support a team and vote on anything I feel strongly about, and since I don't know which of the last 5 kits the fans favor, I did not vote on the newest one. I will renew, but I hope that fans will be grateful for that. You know that I don't really get anything for it...not even a t-shirt that says "I gave my 35pounds to a non-league English football team and all I got was this t-shirt". I will root for The Fleet. That Is how I will get my money's worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Holden 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix Future renewals? The team should plan properly with the money they have been given, and be greatful for any number of future renewals above 0. The whole concept of MyFc is quite beyond you isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu M 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix The team should plan properly with the money they have been given, and be greatful for any number of future renewals above 0. They have more money now than ever, and they are not hemmoraging cash anymore. Once the six-figure sum for the purchase is taken out, while there is still a sizeable chunk left, it'll all be gone very very quickly if future renewals aren't forthcoming. And there's the fact that it is a well-quoted fact on MyFC that there is a minimum level of renewal needed to sustain the project. And it's a long way from zero. And as for your final point, the club is still losing each month what it was losing before - that hasn't magically vanished into thin air (though as perhaps decreased with extra people on the gate and cup runs). Leroix, you seem to be too sensitive to people having a go at MyFC. Of course people are, it's a new and revolutionary project with no track record of success, it's going to be scrutinised every step of the way. That's natural, it's not necessarily criticism. People at this club want to make sure it's in good hands, regardless of your boundless generosity which individually is only £35, far less than most people on here have put in over years and years. That's why there are questions. True, some people on here won't ever bring themselves to like the idea, but most of us can see the good and bad points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix Patman: "Shockingly, less than half of them could be bothered to vote at all!" Would you rather have everyone vote in even if they do not feel strongly either way. Go kick your dog or something, but don't take it out on the people that bailed out your football team. Show some respect. Appologize and beg for forgiveness. Rattled ya have I? Love the way the stock "bail out your football team" answer is your reply. I can think of something much more deserving of a good kicking tbh. So, only half of your members take part in your votes - and I have no respect? I will NEVER apologise (thats with an 's') for MY opinions... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sorry about the typo, and enjoy your opions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix "I gave my 35pounds to a non-league English football team and all I got was this t-shirt". But you didn't, did you? You gave £35 to a website. And you can always BUY as much merchandise as you wish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Rex Kwon Do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O04iVMaflYY Bow to your Sensei. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sorry again, it wasn't a typo. Appologize is spelled with a "z". I just looked it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix I paid 35 pounds (don't have that capital L like symbol on my keyboard) to support a team and vote on anything I feel strongly about, and since I don't know which of the last 5 kits the fans favor, I did not vote on the newest one. I will renew, but I hope that fans will be grateful for that. You know that I don't really get anything for it...not even a t-shirt that says "I gave my 35pounds to a non-league English football team and all I got was this t-shirt". I will root for The Fleet. That Is how I will get my money's worth. Whilst I am sure we all appreciate the relief from debt, new members cannot possibly imagine how annoying it it to be faced with yet another new kit, so soon after our present one. 13 new kits in 8 years is it? For you newbies it is no big deal. You can get your first Fleet shirt. For us "ordinary fans on the terrace , it has become beyond a joke. The benefits of the Nike deal would appear to be in the order of £100,000, but I wonder how many of the new shirts will be worn at the ground, so soon after the Austrian Airlines and Eurostar Jako shirts? Perhaps MYFC could vote to subsidise the new shirts by £25 if you part exchange an old Fleet shirt? Serious question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Oh yes, Napoleon Dynamite...That is some funny stuff, Jeff. TY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Pat-Man: I know how to buy things. I just bought some groceries today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix Future renewals? The team should plan properly with the money they have been given, The job of planning is now in MyFC hands, the team just play the game Originally Posted By: Leroix and be greatful for any number of future renewals above 0. To quote Hirsty, "Ever so 'umble, squire". Always greatful for your generousity Originally Posted By: Leroix They have more money now than ever, and they are not hemmoraging cash anymore. Still losing >£20,000/month Originally Posted By: Leroix What if nobody gives them any money next year, then they will have to do business like every other football team. Thankfully, the more sensible of MyFC members dont agree with you on this being a one year wonder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix Pat-Man: I know how to buy things. I just bought some groceries today. Indeed, your posts prove you can't buy personality... Managed to ignore the fact about WHAT you paid £35 for tho! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroix 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 This is why i don't post here. I plan to go to a game someday and meet some real fans. Fans that know there are more employees for a football team than just players. People that don't make up numbers just to back up their bitter assertions, and will be grateful for all future renewals. I bought a jersey and coffee mug. I joined the fleet Trust, and I will renew with MYFC again. Now I am off to find a forum where people actually talk about football instead of flinging bitter insults. There will be no reply to Patman's future indications of his disabilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Leroix This is why i don't post here. I plan to go to a game someday and meet some real fans. Fans that know there are more employees for a football team than just players. People that don't make up numbers just to back up their bitter assertions, and will be grateful for all future renewals. I bought a jersey and coffee mug. I joined the fleet Trust, and I will renew with MYFC again. Now I am off to find a forum where people actually talk about football instead of flinging bitter insults. There will be no reply to Patman's future indications of his disabilities. And you will be so missed... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santa 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: PatMan Originally Posted By: David Holden How can you not know enough to vote on whether to have Nike or not, BUT do know enough to vote on which Nike kit to have. These are the same people who will be given the chance to select the team, without ever having seen them play. There is absolutely no knowledge required to make a personal choice between the kit options put forward imo. Taste maybe, knowledge no. So not voting on the deal because not enough information was forthcoming but stating a preference for which kit he preferred is perfectly reasonable. To then trot out the same tired old phrases and piss off a few more visitors to the site and potential fans seems counterproductive. Unless, of course, I have mislaid the magic knowledge that is the pre-requisite to making a choice between red, blue or green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvr 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Chatham Gary Perhaps MYFC could vote to subsidise the new shirts by £25 if you part exchange an old Fleet shirt? Serious question. Serious answer - that's not a bad idea whatsoever... Not too sure how much the trade-in would be, but once we know how much the new shirts are, we can determine a fair price. And with the old shirts, we can send them off to those charities or, if someone parts with a really old one, keep for posterity... rvr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ding 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 After the Takeover was approved by MYFC. I invested so that I could see what they were saying and have my say. This forum is always my primary source of opinion. I voted for the Nike deal as I could see no alternative based on everthing I had read. I also voted for a home kit. I didn't vote for an away kit, as I don't like any of them and have said so on MYFC. I have suggest on MYFC that they should give you the option be able to abstain and at least show you have a view, rather than simply you haven't because you didn't vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: Ding After the Takeover was approved by MYFC. I invested so that I could see what they were saying and have my say. This forum is always my primary source of opinion. I voted for the Nike deal as I could see no alternative based on everthing I had read. I also voted for a home kit. I didn't vote for an away kit, as I don't like any of them and have said so on MYFC. I have suggest on MYFC that they should give you the option be able to abstain and at least show you have a view, rather than simply you haven't because you didn't vote. If they were to do that, it would just prove the minority are making the decisions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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