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Originally Posted By: chris blanc
Of course there's no need, everyone knows the score.

And as for making allegations in an airy fairy way on an open forum, that's about all you do on here so you can shut your whining you daft old prick.


crikey chris thats a little unlike you to abuse and libel people in such a quislingesque fashion,.......grin

as a moderator on here and the myfc forums you really should know better than to abuse members but I suppose it becomes endemic in the end after so much practice with the WT/FT...grin
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
the desperados will now adopt plan B (whatever that is and I have a pretty good idea)



There's another carrot left dangling...

UU, you could feed the entire population of Somalia simply on the dangled carrots that have been liberally chucked about this forum.
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Originally Posted By: Stu M
Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
the desperados will now adopt plan B (whatever that is and I have a pretty good idea)



There's another carrot left dangling...

UU, you could feed the entire population of Somalia simply on the dangled carrots that have been liberally chucked about this forum.


and most of the carrot followers are now chocking on the fckers as it begins to dawn on them that I was right..sadly

save it for the fall out and laying of blame stu that will surely follow ....
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I fully expect the whole MYFC thing to go down the pan after February.

It has always had the hallmarks of a one year wonder, many thought Ebbsfleet the wrong choice in the first place, both in terms of league status and geographically.

It is unrealistic to expect a high re-enlistment, certainly not in the numbers there were last year, even on the back of a Wembley win, since the whole thing was sold as "Own the club, pick the team" , a statement factually incorrect on both parts.

The club has benfitted from the deal, at least short term, in that the sudden input of money probably helped the team to reach a national final, through additional training aids, and the general "feelgood" factor that was at the club from Christmas to May last year.

That was last year, the novelty has worn off.

Outsiders such as myself has witnessed much infighting and internal politics from members vying for positions on the "board".

Evidence is clear for all to see, new forums springing up , defections to other clubs, discontent and disharmony over many aspects the way MYFC are running the club.

Many of these people seem to forget the really important people involved - the players and the supporters who watch Fleet week in week out.

We are lucky in that we have the likes of Messrs Moules and Davis actually running the club, hands on, and fully aware of the real logistic difficulties, such as catering problems, arranging car parking, sponsorship, kit, and the 1000 other things that a "board" member cannot possibly know about, or do anything about in Timbucktoo of Outer Mongolia.

I am grateful MYFC has eased our financial crisis for a year, and appear to have paid off some, if not all debts.

With or without MYFC, Fleet will survive and continue, either as full time, with a reduced budget, or part time. If that means a struggle in the league leading to eventual relegation, then so be it.

I and the regulars can live with that.

MYFC was always going to be a risky experiment - I feel a little miffed that it was the Fleet who were the guinea pig, as long term it seems the club is on to a lose/lose situation, as opposed to fan based/owned clubs such as AFC Wimbledon, where the people through the turnstiles and bums on seats make the decisions, rather than spurious, seeming rigged on-line voting with less that 10% turn-outs can dictate important decisions.

Let MyFC die with a modicum of dignity, let them seek out more needy (or gullible) teams, and allow the Fleet to continue their slow and steady progress.

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I think at the end of the day most of us were full of misgivings with the MyFC deal, but as mere supporters we had no say in what happened... Once it happened we then had to try and make it work for the survival of our club; if that meant working alongside the new operator then that's what had to happen - in a way it has been a good deal; it financed our trip to Wembley and our Trophy win, but I'm sure as any of us know who are involved in other forums are aware, many members doesn't equate to many ACTIVE members and I believe that's now starting to show...

At the end of the day, our number one concern isn't MyFC - it's Ebbsfleet United - our team, and that has to be our main priority. All the time there's a chance that MyFC can pull the rabbit out of the hat and re-sign enough members for next year, we have to follow that course - after all, they are the main shareholder. And if that fails, we all have to fall behind whatever comes next to try and save our club.

Personally, I'm tired with all this 'told you so' smugness - hindsight is a wonderful thing, just a shame we can't have it before the event. All I'm concerned about is what's good for the club, not some jumped up idiot or two keen to score points for themselves trying to make themselves look good and important.

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Originally Posted By: Hempstead Gaz
seeming rigged on-line voting


Don't believe everything Urchin throws into the mix. I would say voting was a foregone conclusion in most cases, but rigged?

Isn't that as libellous without proof as casting aspersions about windows, etc?
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
harry has abused enough people on freemy to gain a lifetime award and he can still post on there....he deserves all he gets and has done your club no favours at all in recent months....


Those five straight league defeats - I know who to blame now!

Paul's not done a thing to harm the club whatsoever. He may have pi**ed you off but that's in your own little cyber soap world. Get off your computer and come back to reality.

I think Dave summed it up quite nicely earlier.
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great posts guys and all the usual suspects with the abuse....it matters little now as the abuse is just the weaker amongst us on this public forum not having the bollox nor decency to admit that I and others were right all along and lets not be having any of this clever after the event bollox...I have been consistant since day one...

 

jeff...I have little interest in the fleet per se as you well know....what I do have an interest in is any NL club being fcked up by non footballing people who think they know best...

 

I have also found it a fascinating study of human nature to see how many so called true ebbs fans nailed their colours to the myfc mast...

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Originally Posted By: Jeff
As stated previously, I have never 'embraced' MyFC but obviously signed into it so as to keep an eye on what is going on.

What other mast can I nail my colours to UU?



the main cause of the problems jeff are related to the difficulty that you guys have in relating to what the myfc members paid for...they didn't join myfc to be the paymasters that you deemed them to be...they joined myfc to be involved in running a football club which they have been denied...we all know that.....all of the society members know that....the clever ones rebelled against it and the silent ones left and will not renew...

the self servers played parliament and prime ministers with farsens of elections and waffle election statements embarrassing to the extreme and you and harry and others slagged everyone off on myfc who dared complain about the fiasco in the name of the fleet and hoping that it would all be okay...it was never going to be....

most myfc members have no interest at all in ebbsfleet and never did have...to lamblast them and ridicule them as you and others have is simply unfair....they joined a society to buy a club and run it...they didn't care which club it was....they wanted to see if the wisdom of the crowd could work......thats the whole issue and yet all you guys can see and think is wheres the fckn money grin

aint there jeff and aint gonna be and we all know that....the rats are fleeing the ship as the iceberg approaches and much fun has been had by all....including the fleet fans with their penchant for abusing anyone with half a brain and a difference of opinion.....(and yes hannah... harry has harmed the fleet in many ways across the www even jeff and other fleet fans know that)

you could have nailed your colours to the gravesend and northfleet mast jeff.....the fans could have stopped that name change by voting with their feet but didn't have the bollox....apathy ruled.....

when that was done and dusted you could have nailed your colours to the ebbs mast when the carpetbagger from paddingtonville came a knocking but you didn't have the bollox for that either...you gleefully all talked about money and new signings and league football..and promptly joined myfc and some even sat for the board and others on here joined the weasels on the FT/WT's and abused and deleted and banned the dissenters who attempted to obtain transparency from paddingtons secret service......

I have little sympathy to be honest...decent people who have tried to help have been villified and abused...the arrogance of it all as the dream floundered is astonishing and worrying in its naivity from so called business and football professional administrators...(at least liam kept his dignity and fair play to him)..

I wish you and your club well and should it need help I will offer help but cannot help thinking that in some way the fleet fans apathy and lack of bollox have contributed to your own downfall....blame will be aportioned here jeff in due course and as much as some idiots may like to think its me/us/freemy...we know the truth don't we...
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We didn't all join MyFC.

 

I've been around too long to believe in fringe societies.... I posted on other (non-football) forums what I felt would happen but kept fairly quiet on here in the slim chance I might be wrong and not wishing to rock the boat if I was and I'm sure there are many more of us who had the same misgivings and kept quiet for the same reasons.

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That's a great post, Karl. And there are some other good posts on this thread too. If MyFC get enough renewals, that will be good for the club and I hope it happens. I joined for 2 years and intend to continue as long as MyFC is there, whether or not I can post on the MyFC forum.

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Interesting new strategic ploy here. He's slagged off MyFC and the moonies to begin with, taken in Will Brooks and team en route, fired off a few shots against the ex-directors, winged a couple of shots at DD and John Moules.

 

And now we get the dagger through the heart of the Fleet fans who 'embraced' MyFC. It's suddenly all their fault in equal measure.

 

Who next to be tarred by the brush? Mother Teresa? Is the Pope a member? Could it be Simon Cowell's fault? I blame 'em all.

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Originally Posted By: Jeff
Nice tirade. I was starting to agree with you in places until it turned into the usual rhetoric.

497 words and you didn't answer my question at all.

Does anyone have a mast?


I answered your question fully jeff or are you short sighted....grin

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you could have nailed your colours to the gravesend and northfleet mast jeff.....the fans could have stopped that name change by voting with their feet but didn't have the bollox....apathy ruled.....

when that was done and dusted you could have nailed your colours to the ebbs mast when the carpetbagger from paddingtonville came a knocking but you didn't have the bollox for that either...you gleefully all talked about money and new signings and league football..and promptly joined myfc and some even sat for the board and others on here joined the weasels on the FT/WT's and abused and deleted and banned the dissenters who attempted to obtain transparency from paddingtons secret service......


stu..I have never had a go at the society members or ebbs as a club...only the carpetbaggers that conned the society members and the fleet fans that sold their club down the river and aligned themselves with that corrupt regime...what I have said has always been identifiable as me as the poster and what I have said I stand by...

you however....grin
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There was a GNFC mast. Although you say I could have nailed my colours to this, I can safely say they were there.

 

Then there was an Ebbsfleet mast. It took some time to take the colours down but after seeing the Fleet for the first time that season, it felt OK and the mast was nailed. I do hate the name though.

 

I have never fully (for the third time) embraced my red and white on the mast of MyFC although there is a pennant attached to it. I do think that MyFC is worth having as part of the Fleet at the moment though.

 

This brings me neatly back to you not answering my question which, in case you have conveniently forgotten, was what other mast can I nail my colours to UU?

 

Are there any other ships in the ocean? Some friendly trawlers and some pirates is my guess.

 

 

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