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I have read the posts on this topic and am absolutely fed up with certain people coming out with the age old excuse "if you want to watch quality players you have to play top prices" this is **** and you all know it. We could have paid 6,00 across the board to go and watch Burnley but yet again the club have to ruin it fior everyone. Surely it is better to go out in style with a cracking atmosphere instead of a few hardcore fans( i honestly don't know where numbers like 5/6,000 come from). Because of the clubs greed and thats all it is most canvey fans won't be making the trip so close to xmas. The club do not care about the fans but are they so thick that they don't realise they will now make less money and it will be a **** atmosphere. Questions have to be asked. What happened to all the money made from last season if the players only cost 13,000? Its about time we stopped seeing the club through rose tinted glasses and woke up to what is really going on.

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dirt cheap season tickets would be giving something back to the real supporters but i digress...i happen to agree with the club this time, i dont always (season ticket arguement being a case in point).. i appreciate your arguements but it still comes back to do we have a sugar daddy getting some well deserved money back or an evil director leeching money of the thousands (mm where were they last week ag chesham) of loyal canvey fans.. lets keep it frdly guys its christmas!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img]

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gazza<p>I don't understand you.
Bleating on about prices firstly canvey entrance fee is one pound more than yours and don't kid yourself you would not pay it if you could have half the success we are enjoying.<p>Secondly<p>How many third round ties will you pay less than fourteen quid entrance.
Lets all get real here if we want conference football I don't mind playing slightly over the odds.
In football as in life you have two choices,either put up or vote with your feet.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by CANV:
<strong>.. i appreciate your arguements but it still comes back to do we have a sugar daddy getting some well deserved money back or an evil director leeching money of the thousands (mm where were they last week ag chesham) of loyal canvey fans.. lets keep it frdly guys its christmas!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] </strong><hr></blockquote><p>I am not sure that's a valid argument Canv after all if JK didn't want to put the money into the club he didn't have too. Any club is about the fans. They are the ones who keep coming week in week out whilst Chairmen and Managers come and go. (I've lost count of the number of Chairmen who have been at Gravesend since I started going)<p>This was a chance for the club to give something back to the fans, and they blew it I'm afraid.<p>I agree with you about the season tickets, but that as you said is another issue.<p>Perhaps the club could subsidise the travel to Burnley which may pay for itself with extra fans going while keeping the home fans at home [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>See you on the 8th, but until then Merry Xmas

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CANV, this isn't about the rivalry between our two clubs. This is about football, supporters and encouraging support for a club. <p>Succesful though it is, isn't really pulling in Conference average crowds and therefore a little consideration and less profit would have been nice.<p>If you want to pay then you go. People with families that support your club may find your sentiment a little hard to swallow and therefore not go. <p>Either way, Canvey won't get the support it quite probably deserves for such a big game.<p>(apologies for spelling.... I've had a few at lunch time).

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im hearing you guys... but it will be helping burnley fans not us.. the price of the ticket will be a small part of the overall day out..sure burnley want a big crowd and sure they want to do the best for their fans..they seem happy to be part of the pheonix money grab , no problem with that i dont blame em just like i dont blame our boys for requesting their fair share of gate money for an f.a.cup 3rd round match...we can argue the dynamics of the crowd size till the cows come home, i guess we will have to see what the crowd is on the day.. i'll be there and will happily part with me 14 quid ...if canvey decide to be 'nice' to their fans then its a season ticket call with maybe discounts for future cup games thats how to really target the true fan [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]

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Er, I think that Burnley get a 1/3, Canvey get a 1/3 and the FA the rest.<p>Burnely's argument seems to be sound. Charge less get more in. Hopefully you'll get a bigger return.<p>Charge more, give the supporters the hump, get less of a return 'cos less people turn up.<p>CANV, it's called the economics of good will.

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Sorry CANV, it was park lane boy I was giving the grief out to as well.<p>As I said, I'm not bothered about Canvey Island. What I am bothered about is non league football. And I think, for once, a League team has got it right.<p>Actually, I am bothered about Canvey. Such a good club being sullied by this!!!

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Gazza & Dave and whoever else - I think the true perspective here is that those who would be willing to travel all the way to Burnley and the costs that 'that' involves will be happy to pay an extra £8.00 just to experience the day itself. On a personal bases I would have been willing to pay more anyway.
Having said that I do understand your frustration on this one and am also sure that given the same circumstances and being the supporters of your respective clubs you too would also pay the same entrance fee!
Opportunities to see your own non league club take on the might of a division One high flyer in a National competition does not happen every Saturday!

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Come on how many of you guys have paid a lot more to go and watch you favorite professional side play,(be honest), I think where Canv is coming from is suppporting your local non league club is real special, it means more to the supporters and then to see them do so well in an FA cup is even more special so the majority of those who go each week are prepared to pay that bit extra on special occassions like this. infact I'd go as far as saying we would expect to pay more not less for a game of this magnatude.
This statement though is only agreeable to me on occasions like this and that the issue of a cheaper gate and a better deal for kids and season tickets for regular games, is another altogether different issue. <img src="graemlins/icon19.gif" border="0" alt="[icon19]" /> <img src="graemlins/images/icons/confused.gif" border="0" alt="confused" />

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Seems to me this is just another opportunity to knock Canvey FC and the Canvey fans. Like I said before, any excuse will do. What the frig do the these other fans from other clubs really want from this debate? To represent non-league football? My @rse. They see a potential dent in the yellow armour and decide to go all moral and upright. In the past they've hit us on the 'Sugar Daddy' front, the carp ground front, the rubbish pitch, the island's oil refineries and even Dr Feelgood's music. They never give up and admission prices is just another brick in the wall - this one as pathetic as all the others.<p>The Canvey fans, on the other hand, seem to be happy to accept the admission prices. Not because they are trying to grab any moral high ground (there isn't any) but because going up to Burnley for the day is going to cost a minimum of £50 (coach, refreshments on the way up, a few beers up there, a mid-day meal, admission, a programme, a burger, a few more beers and refreshments on the journey home). More likely to be £60+. How can saving £8 on a ticket make any significant difference?<p>Burnley fans are getting a cheap day at £14 anyway. If they're too tight to show up, that's their loss.<p>You others, with all your crocodile tears have had your say, now let the Yellow Army pay their dosh and enjoy their day. You don't give a stuff really, do you.<p>Merv CIFC<p>[ 19 December 2001: This message was edited by: Merv CIFC ]</p>

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If I was in JKs and the Canveys boards boat I would have done exactley the same as they have done. We want to upset there every plan. We dont really want a packed house at Turf Moor. We want it to be not such an nice earner for them. We dont want it to be a good day out for the locals - let it be a poorly attended game. Let the locals have the hump and let it be a drab, heartless performance from the home team as a result. Let them even put out a weakened team. Let the whole day be a non-event for the town of Burnley.<p>Then let the Yellow Machine in!.<p>The usual faces will be amongst the Canvey supporters. £14 quid is a reasonable price - its the 3rd Round of the most famous domestic football competition in the world!.<p>I was more concerned at the prices for the last round at our place. Thought that was a tadge excessive.<p>We are right up against it in this match - facing a tough team, tough ground and far from home. Anything off the field that may help has to be done.

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Captain Haddock,GET REAL! If you really belief that JK "just wants to upset there plan" and make sure the crowd is small so we benefit then you are even crazier than you sound. Sorry but do you know how lame it sounds. Wake up as most of us now realise the club does not seem to care about the fans(season tickets need i say more!)

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Merv, when did anyone knock Canvey Island for Dr. Feelgood. Send 'em to me. I'll teach 'em.<p>A truly cool band (I'm humming "Roxette" as I type this).<p>I take it you Canvey supporters don't take too kindly to having other supporters air their view.
Can I just say, I'm not knocking your club here, just your Chairman's apparent greed.<p>And can someone plaese explain why a "Sugar Daddy" can't be a greedy 'erm person? You can be both when the oportunity arises. <p>And to anyone who say's about a major payout for Burnley, please read my earlier message. The FA, Burney and Canvey get a 1/3 of the gate. And it is really childish to suggest "why should we let Burnley have a massive payout for the day".<p>Anyway, have a Merry Xmas all of you and I wish you all the best for the coming new year!!!

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I have just been reading your comments and as a claret I must give you some accurate facts on the situation.
1 Burnley have been charging £5 a ticket (across the board) for a few games each season for last 2 seasons. We feel this is a great incentive to get people onto the turf who normally wouldn't afford the £13-19 for normal match days.
2 The average take home pay in Burnley is £180-£200. So a decent ticket costs 1/5 of your wage and 2 games in a week 2/5 - that is a LOT of money to lay out!
3 Burnley's forward thinking in attracting support has been shown in the last 2 season by making childrens season tickets £35 in all areas. This is the way of encouraging the local children to support their LOCAL team (know what I mean..).<p>This shows that to be succsessful you don't need to rip supporters off - you need to encourage them!!!<p>The fact that your club would make more money with a £6 gate means CIFC MUST want a smaller crowd - cant be for the £££.<p>I find it dissapointing to hear some of the comments said - is football about the supporters or the Club??<p>See you on the 6th<p>Hodgy

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We have all had our say but at the end of the day there is nothing that the supporters of Canvey FC could have done even if they had wished to.
I would also add that like referees once they have made their decision it stays and thats it.
We will never know if greed was behind the issue, history would suggest that may be a fact but in this instance I don't think so, there is a motive here and it has already been stated.
I have already stade in another thread - Dageham Ticket prices for their third round game has been announced at £20 adults £15 concessions, does this mean that Dagenham are being greedy too? if you think so have a belt on their message board, it would give us a break!!

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I thought the point at issue was not whether the price of the tickets was too much but that Burnley offered to price the tickets at at much lower figure and Canvey turned it down.<p>I agree that £14 is good value but £6 would have been even better value.<p>Now that it's all been priced up, how much will the tickets for the replay be? [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]<p>[ 20 December 2001: This message was edited by: Dave GNFC ]</p>

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300 quid.. 75 pounds to park within 3 miles of the ground.. oh and there will be a bloke at the end of canvey way collectiing 20p from each car coming onto the island [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img]

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Another funny from CANV!!!! Keep it up son, you're killing me.<p>But seriously, the Daganham ticket prices are in the same league and my thoughts about the Burnley / Canvey prices.<p>And yep, it ain't the supporters fault but they are the ones that have to pay.

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If Canvey fans don't mind being fleeced to watch better players etc. thats up to them but why should fans of the visiting club be ripped off? On this basis other clubs should charge visiting Canvey fans extra, how do they feel about that? I think the Ryman, and every other league, should set a maximum price at the start of each season to stop any team gaining an unfair advantage by ripping off spectators, many other clubs allow kids in for free. If Canvey are allowed to get away with this sort of thing, others may follow thus destroying the whole spirit of non-league!

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