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<img src="graemlins/cry.gif" border="0" alt="cry" /> oh heck - it will be tears by Christmas - don't let our little bubble burst lads <img src="graemlins/coolsmoke.gif" border="0" alt="coolsmoke" /> <img src="graemlins/cry.gif" border="0" alt="cry" /> <img src="graemlins/chainsaw.gif" border="0" alt="chainsaw" />

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Read some of the postings the rest of us were writing at the start of the season, when, after a good start but only a few games, you lot were giving it large.<p>Pride goes before fall. Enjoy the trip.<p>Merv CIFC

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We found the second season after promotion to be a lot tougher than the first - partly due to the fact that we were now a "known quantity" - partly we changed manager and 75% of the team. The first season up about half of the teams we were playing for the first time in several years so we had the benefit, particularly at home, that they were playing in unfamiliar surroundings against unfamiliar players. What's encouraging about our progress in the division is that we're bringing in plenty of young players, Simba is the only player in the squad over 30, we've replaced older players like Parratt and Culverhouse with young prospects like Woolsey, Tomlinson and Opara.

I would suggest that Braintree have a lot more experience in their squad than we do at the moment, Davidson, Waters, Parratt and Gutzmore all played for Billericay in our 1st season back!

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Can't deny any of that Simon - and I don't think any Irons supporter would deny that our team would be very lightweght indeed without the ex Billericay players - although why Ben continues to give Leon fifteen minutes of football a game is beyond me. Dean Parrett despite his years(!!) is proving to be an absolute stalwart for the team - but it is clear we need to bring in players of quality if we are serious - that's again not to dis the current squad - there are some good players and when we gel we play well.<p>We don't have money - we have small crowds - we are not necessarily going to attract the best - although as long as we have Ken Varney on the squad good players will join out of respect for this greatly underrated Coach. I may be being unrealistic but I really don't want the club to remain an average Premier side and have to say that I admire what Gravesend have done despite their unglamarous(no offence intended) geographical and status position ( and the odd very odd supporter!!).<p>However what do Billericay really feel of their achievements to date - would you have expected success sooner - are you still building - do you consider yourselves a conference side - if not after four years how long would you expect it to take? <img src="graemlins/diskussion.gif" border="0" alt="[diskussion]" />

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i think the current braintree squad is plenty good enough to finish top six this season..home form has been outstanding with a couple of those wins pulled back from being behind, billericay (cough splutter cough) also arnt losing many games .. sure canvey and gravesend are on fine runs at the moment but its still 2/3 games till halfway so early days..we have had some injury problems with key players this season and suspensions so i have to be pleased with the way the squad has performed so far..especially after our ropey start ...still no league games for 3 weeks now just cup action..ryman league f.a. trophy and f.a.cup mm i wonder which game will get the biggest crowd? <img src="graemlins/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="[rolleyes]" />

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sorry bleating on about canvey there back to the BTFC's billericay have been gradually building a solid supporter base in the town and have real potential to become a conference side..they have a feel of one of those clubs looking to build it up nice n easy and in that respect braintree would do well to emulate them..i can see both BTFC's in the conf in future years regularly attracting over 1,000 fans...

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<img src="graemlins/affig.gif" border="0" alt="affig" /> Top six would be a brilliant posiiton to end up in and would certainly give us the cred next season as a team to contend with. I agree re the other BTFC they certainly come over as something of a growing sleeping giant (if you get my drift!) and I re-iterate that I don't want to have a neg on the team - the home games have been great but we still have to play the best - if we come out with 10/12 of the 18 points we would get from beating the best six that would stamp our position on this league.<p>But as I said earlier I would like to see us use this season to establish ourselves - yes second season will be harder but we must have sustained growth if we are going to be serious about this - and I assume thats the point of it all. <img src="graemlins/bussi.gif" border="0" alt="bussi" />

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In a way the first season in the premier with John Kendall as boss was something of a false start - when Gary Calder became mangaer the aim was conference within 5 years. This season I feel we should be aiming top 5 next top 2 or 3 then win it the season after that.....hopefully. We've got key players on contract - Joe Baker for another season after this, KK another 2. I feel we could do with a good trophy run this season to keep interest going, hopefully some success in 1 of the minor (ESC, RLC) cups as well. The aim at Billericay has always been sustainable success, I would rather us make slow but steady progress over the next few years than throw everything into a rapid charge up the pyramid before exploding and disappearing from view.

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<img src="graemlins/achso.gif" border="0" alt="achso" /> Point taken Merv - but I still re-iteraten what most Irons supporters were really saying at the beginning of the season - not to be relegated was our aim.<p>We had a great start against what we believed to be good Premier sides - time has shown that these clubs weren't as good as we believed and all the success we have had at home is in the main, against such clubs - we still hav e a lot to learn about football at this level. <p>Spoke to one of the players yesterday who told me that we didn't deserve to win and the result was fair - showed us to be a weak side away from home -we can't seem to play away from home or we certainly don't seem to be able to adapt the game, excluding the rare succes again against weaker clubs - whatever, such away form doesn't win you championships.<p>But its out first season - we have been top of the pile and it felt good - but we don't have the depth of Premier experience to mount any sort of serious challenge now - that hopefully will come over the next few seasons as we establish ourselves in this league (I remember the other BTFC were in exactly the same position as us - high flying at the start of the season dropping off later - how long would they say they took to become serious contenders?<p>And as I said at the beginning of the season if we become no more that the unpredictable team that continues to cause upsets then we've surely arrived!! <p>I suppose its easier for me to say this than other Irons supporters as with my leg in plaster for the next two months I'm not going to get to a game until at least February - but from where I'm sitting the edge and urgency has gone out of our game - at least last year we had a promotion fight to the last day. I feel we must treat every game from now as a learning curve for next season. We have nothing to lose - with another one or two points under our belt we wont be relegated(!!) so lets start experementing - we have one or two good reserve players who Ben can afford to blood at senior level and more strategic thinking from the coaching staff would help. <p>I'm not going to dis our team - we've given a few teams a shock this season and certainly proved over Borehamwood and Bedford that we definitely deserved our promotion place this year. In the meantime as the table starts to take shape good luck to the serious contenders and that probably must mean Canvey Gravesend Alderhot trio. Just dont write us off to cause the upsets along the way <img src="graemlins/warmimages/icons/smile.gif" border="0" alt="[warmsmile]" />

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Yep Simon, I agree.<p>And to all who think the season is all over and the title won should stop and consider that we are only coming up to half way through the season with bad weather to come. <p>The season after Xmas is notorious for sorting the men out from the boys.<p>On a "banter" point. Strange that after one defeat the Braintree supporters are changing their tune from winning the title to surviving the season in the premier.<p>Never mind lads, just look down and you'll see us catching you up he, he, he (tha's if we can score a goal - what has happened to our strikers?).

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Hmmm! I wonder where Gazza and the the Canvey fan up the thread have got the idea that Iron supporters were suggesting Braintree had a realistic shout of winning the Ryman premier? Certainly not from this forum. Sure,w've been enjoying ourselves and celebrated the two passing moments we acually sat atop the Ryman premier. I personally have only requested other contributors here not to write us off as being only temporarily around at this level. The one point I have made is we're equal to the other BTFC and have that 10 quid bet with Gazza to back up my conviction. then of course in came Mr Chesham to make it a 3 way bet. Steve your tenner looked precarious at one stage, but of the three clubs you look the form team. I still prefer to be where we are however, with the points won.

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