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behindthegoal

Only open if you Andy Ford to go

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Enough is enough. Andy HAS done a great job for us but clearly has run out of ideas and any real ambition. How bad does it have to get? Last two home games, one shot on target in 190 minutes of play.

I am a season ticket holder,have supported the Fleet for 38 years, worked for the club for years on a voluntary basis, been to Merthyr, Minehead, Villa Park, Huddersfield - the lot.

Have been proud to support the lads and wear the shirt but this weekend was the lowest I have ever felt leaving the ground.

I know of the constraints on him and the next manager but what is happening now is soul destoying.

We have to have a change.

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Hmmmm, it seems he has been supporting the club for 38 years! He has only mentioned the games that other people have mentioned on here/or places, eg, minehead and merthyr. Then mentions Hudders, that was only recent. This is definately not the lowest you should have felt if you been supporting for 38 years, actual relegation must feel worse? then relegation to the southern league southern division(as low as dartford are now) now they were the lows of the club!

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Daft to say, only open if you want Ford to go, as most people will view anyway. Ask people to vote by all means - looking at other threads where this has happened, there is still a consensus from those on the forum that he should stay.

 

I too can think of many worse times for the club - almost being out of business for one. Its easy to look through Rose Coloured glasses when you look back at the "Good Old Days" - we all mention Wolfe, Brown, Bostock, etc from the 70's, but how many of those players would have survived at Conference level, I wonder? I suspect the answer is very few indeed.

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Alan W (GNFC) said:
Daft to say, only open if you want Ford to go, as most people will view anyway.


It would be daft if he had actually managed to say that, but he couldn't!

Perhaps what he really wanted to say was open only if you don't want Ford to go

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Re our supporter of 38 years.Does he remember our 81 - 82 season when we were in the Alliance, which was the Conference of those days.

If so he will probably remember one Sunday afternoon when our Chairman of that time sped down to Portsmouth to sign a new 'Saviour'

Manager Stan Harland, who probably cost as much as the rest of the team put together. He was appointed manager as we were having a poor season - the aim was to stop us being relegated. We soon discovered he would not attend all the training sessions to cut down on his expenses: management by remote control? Did we survive, no we were relegated one cold wet afternoon at Barrow, and the snibes and sarcasm we Fleet supporters had to endure from Barrow supporters that afternoon will ensure that I will never forget the experience.

The club nearly went to the wall completely, not because we were relegated but because we had spent more than we could afford to try to stay up. We have seen clubs like Dartford, Maidstone and Sittingbourne all having to come back from rock bottom and they have to be admired for how they have managed to bring themselves back from the brink. All these clubs were thought to be more affluent than us when we were playing them, but you can't spend what you haven't got and survive. You can't finance a club on a credit card. If we get ourselves into fanancial problems trying to achieve beyond our means the hunt for glory brigade will desert us anyway.

I neither know nor care whether I have put this in the right section but I don't know what is meant by 'Only open if you Andy Ford to go' - could be one of two things. <img src="/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

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I dont know much about relegation because ive never felt that pain luckily, and i still think i wont at the end of this season. I started supporting the club in 1995 when my dad took me down to watch the 4-0 Marlow game when I think it was Dave Powell who scored a hat rick and Mark Munday scored the other, although i may be wrong, i was only 8 at the time. The games in the Beezer Homes league, the standard of footy was poor and the standard we are playing at today is a huge improvement, and it should be appreciated and not slagged off! Get behind the team and the management, WE will pull through!!

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Sorry typing error in my haste to post. I did leave out the word "want" in my title. I think it is time for Andy to go.

In response to some of the posts I will confirm that I could have listed many other grounds if it somehow proved my credentials to comment - Andover, Kettering, Yeovil, Waterlooville etc that I have been to over the years if it helps. Sorry if mentioning grounds other folks have listed is not good enough.

Yes I do remember relegation over the years and also managers before and after Harland - Ackerman, Sitford et al. So what? This is not a competition to remember the worse times ever.

My point is that all things come to an end and it is that time for Andy Ford. It is credit to the fans that there is some loyalty to the man but in my view it is misplaced.

If as I fear he stays and somehow we stay up I will be first to come on here and say I was wrong, but I don't think that will happen.

I agree that we have to survive within our means. I don't need to be told about Maidstone, Dartford or Sittingbourne. However the resources we have got could be better used by a better man-manger in my opinion, as a long-term supporter who has followed the Fleet on many a cold wet Tuesday night.

It seems that most criticism posted on this site is seen as disloyal. Some of it is not helpful I agree but most of it is genuine and comes from the heart.

I think the progress we have made over the last few years will be lost if we keep on with our current course. Delay will cost us in the long term.

Finally I can confirm I am over 16, do not own a drum and any criticism I might utter is not directed personally to the player.

I hope however reads this will accept my views even if they do not agree with them.

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WELL PUT BEHINDTHEGOAL

 

however i think Andy should stay as he has done wonders for the club and the management team he has built with Phil Handford, Ron Hillyard, Neil Withington, etc has built the club from mediocre

Ryman team to a team that won the league and survived in the conference which with the present set up the club is in is the best we can hope for at present

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Andy Ford had done well to build the club up over the last few years, but he has let the solid foundations of the team slip away in just one close season! Why? We are nowhere near as good as we were last year now!! Why have all our best players left and been replaced with second rate sh*te??!

 

Adrian Pennock! Player Manager!

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Andy Ford had done well to build the club up over the last few years, but he has let the solid foundations of the team slip away in just one close season! Why?


How do you keep a player that wants to leave. Face it, Gravesend are a small club, and players will continue to use us as a stepping stone to bigger sides

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