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in the managers notes in last tuesdays canvey program there was a bit about a bloke bringing his kid (i think it was his son, i was a bit p.ssed when i read it) to the game standing near the goal and being so disgusted with the language then he left at half time and complained...

tricky one this, i personally am a big fan of bad language and especially at football when emotions are running high.. on the other hand is there any excuse for that kind of behaviour from grown men..?

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i would suggest not going behind the goal if you are sensitive to what langauge your kids will hear, leaving that area to the sterotypical working class yob who likes a beer and to let off a little steam.. or have a part of the ground set aside for families..

some ryman games are already souless enough with the clubs most vocal fans having to watch thier P's n Q's.. and why cant a group of adults get involved in some drinking and adult banter in what after all is supposed to be a mans game..

what do you lot think..?

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strong advocte of some sort of family area even at this level

 

the trouble here is the language wasnt directed at his kid ,

he could've moved to another area

could've had a quiet word with said "emotionally charged" person

but he chose to walk away from the problem only to complain later..he's look out

 

kids at football? soon they'll be letting women in

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We were all introduced to football matches by an adult in our tender youth and gradually learned the art of "how to swear at the game"

The problem now is the man/men that two pints in use 100% out of order swearing in a continious stream throughout the game and the out of control slighter older than children group who have obviously been reared in a pikey pack

I.E. the loss of respect in every area of life that worsens year on year

 

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I've been to West Ham a few times and only once in the Centenery (family) Stand. Worst swearing I've heard at a football match in my life! (I am, of course, excluding managers). Couldn't believe what I was hearing considering it was the family stand so I turn round to see who it was and lo and behold it was some 6 year old child. Then again, being from the east end it's hardly surprising.

 

People can sit wherever they want in non-league grounds (maybe higher, never been to a match) so if they don't like the language they can move. However, constant steams of foul and abusive language does anger me and I have told people to tone it down in the passed.

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At BTFC Rod Moore put a ban on swearing telling those who did will be ejected (we used to joke "ejaculated") out of the ground but when you have four seasons of Gary Calder with one and a bit from George Borg, it becomes a bit of a double standard. Both people are very vocal and both use the Anglo Saxon style of expression.

 

Were there complaints?...I can't remember but there were very young children well within ear shot.

 

My "take" on the whole situation is that you can't take it out of the game because there would be a lot of people you'll be upsetting (nearly said the "p" word, LMU) and after a few beers and (usually) an upsetting momemt (usually the ref missing an incident involving "that" full back taking out your forward, just on the edge of the area), passion comes to the fore and all self restraint, lost...So, if ya don't like it, either don't turn up or go to a part of the ground where you can't hear it...loudly.

 

 

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Swearing and watching [***!!***] Billericay are two things that go hand in hand. Even the local vicar has a [***!!***] mouth that would make satan himself blush!!! Why is it that these [***!!***] parents complain about [***!!***] bad language yet go home and let the [***!!***] kids play on the latest computer game where the object is to slaughter all and [***!!***] sundry with an oozie 9MM!!!! [****!!****] to it, swear as much as you [***!!***] like!

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Most swearing at football matches is quite comical, especially when used in songs and witty outbursts to bait the opposing 'Keeper etc.

 

Obviously there's one at every game that can't prevent the booze getting to his, (or her) head or they've just been brought up naturally with f**k coming after every three words in any sentence.

 

If you can't face the fact that swearing is universal and can be found at ANY social gathering be it a Pub, Football Match whatever, it's not really worth having contact with anyone is it?

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I have to admit I'm no angel when it comes to swearing at football matches. I try to tone my language down but it is difficult when emotion gets the better of you. Especially in the last few games we have had some absoutely appalling referees which have frustrated the fans so much with their decisions.

Certainly there are those at Canvey who take it too far by abusing opposition players. Most of it is just banter but sometimes it does go too far.

 

The thing that should be addressed at Canvey is the behaviour of some of the teenage kids. Especially for the Tuesday night games we have had a group of about 20 or 30 who have generally been a real nuisance and on several occassions have been reprimanded by the stewards (a couple were ejected from the ground against Braintree)

 

I don't want to seem like an old fogey but if these kids carry on like they have been doing, we may have to review the 'kids for a quid' scheme which would be a real shame.

 

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Agreed, Matt. If someone is really that that upset at hearing certain words that at a given time in a given culture are deemed swearing - and it constantly changes - then they should perhaps consider getting a life or staying home.

 

As someone above said, if you go to a football match you should expect a certain, err, atmosphere, and not try to change it to suit your own more delicate tastes. I mean, I don't to church and sing "who's the w@nker in the collar", do I? Or "whose that prat in the pointy hat?" (if there's a bishop present). Err, I think I'm pushing this very weak analogy a bit too far now...

 

However, those whose vocabulary consists almost entirely of obscenities, like MIM and his mates, merely show themselves up for the fools that they are, IMHO.

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I think that i might go round the ground on Saturday with a swear box then donate the money to a charity.

 

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And hardly a word about the language ON the pitch ??

 

Check yer rool books !

 

That's why I am in favour of lady refs ! You wouldn't believe how more polite players become !

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As Canv said it is a tough one !

 

I never ever swear at Football, even the two most frustrating moments where i have ran after the officials (Away to Northwood last Season and Basingstoke this season)and i would never dream of it.

 

But saying all this it is something that goes on a games frustration is shown and if you start to try and clamp down on it in the stands what about the pitch where the worst swearing is.

 

Racism is another story it is more important to clamp down on and luckily have never heard anything Racist at home or Away since supporting the Urchins.

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