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I spent a lot of last season on here ranting about this, that and the other but this time round I have decided to say at little as possible. As an Egham Town nut I am pleased that people are saying nice things about us, which is testament to John Hamsher, Wayne Noad and Colin Bartholomew and the almost total rehash of the squad in the close season. We have some bloody good players and on our day we can turn sides over (Cove, Chessington & Hook) but we will not be taking Guernsey lightly. I have seen Guernsey this season, on the occasion of their first visit to Spelthorne Sports, and on a horrible day of driving wind and pouring rain I was not impressed with either side, but the conditions would have tested any sides. We are top because we have more points so far than anyone else; we are not claiming to be the best side in the CCL. By the time we get to play Guernsey the weather will be awful and some sides will find that hard to cope with. Croydon have a poster who thought we turned up expecting to win; I can't see that John Hamsher would allow that. As far as postings from me go, I will take a leaf from John's book - to call him taciturn would be an understatement.

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Not sure why you want to know but it is Cove at home.

 

Just thinking about whether there'd be a thought to resting players for the cup game.

 

Talk about resting players, Guernsey rest Allen all beit on the bench and Guernsey getting spanked by Cobham, Id like to see Guernsey Donkey make the excuses for this one, unless they pull it out the bag in which case ........Do'h.

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Not sure why you want to know but it is Cove at home.

 

Just thinking about whether there'd be a thought to resting players for the cup game.

 

Talk about resting players, Guernsey rest Allen all beit on the bench and Guernsey getting spanked by Cobham, Id like to see Guernsey Donkey make the excuses for this one, unless they pull it out the bag in which case ........Do'h.

 

I wasn't at the game so I can't comment on it. Only those who saw the game can comment.

 

When we last lost against Spelthorne I started a thread saying WELL DONE SPELTHORNE, so to say I make excuse's for defeats is hugely inaccurate.

 

I am obviously dissapointed as will be the team and management at this result.

 

I wouldn't call 3-2 a spanking though !

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Guernsey do have a problem with players unavailability for away fixtures. Tardif our keeper never travels midweek...

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Surely if gurnsey have 30+ players to pick from of the island, surely it shouldn't be difficult to pick TWO decent 11 sides!

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jamie lawrence is at cobham now ex ashford town middlx manager an league player with numerous clubs maybe his arrival has boosted cobham maybe he brought a few of his academy in with him im led to believe he is only a player there though.......

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Surely if gurnsey have 30+ players to pick from of the island, surely it shouldn't be difficult to pick TWO decent 11 sides!

Fair point, the problem is there are not too many players of the class of Tardif, Black, Rihoy etc, some good players but perhaps not at their level.

Surprised only 2 subs though...

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Surely if gurnsey have 30+ players to pick from of the island, surely it shouldn't be difficult to pick TWO decent 11 sides!

 

We are not Manchester United you know ! Our first choice 11 is far better than our 2nd choice 11 so its not easy when we have so many missing.

 

We were missing Black, Rihoy, Dyer, Tardiff, Cochrane ( Our Captain ) and Ross Allen came on as a sub. These 6 would normally start if all were available/fit, so its not an excuse but when you are 5 of your star players down you aren't going to play as well.

 

Saying all that I would have thought we would have had enough to win but it sounded like a good end to end game and well done agin to Cobham.

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Surely if gurnsey have 30+ players to pick from of the island, surely it shouldn't be difficult to pick TWO decent 11 sides!

Fair point, the problem is there are not too many players of the class of Tardif, Black, Rihoy etc, some good players but perhaps not at their level.

Surprised only 2 subs though...

 

Is that right HKP only 2 subs ? thats shocking....really shocking if that is the case, Iam i right in thinking its not just 30 players GFC can pick from its any player who they deem good enough ? i take your point HKP that they may not be the qualty of Black,Tardif, Cochrane etc but how do Guernsey think they will progress if they only have a core of veru good players and the rest average .

 

I like Guernsey i really do enjoy watching them, and im sure most of the die hard Guernsey fans and many come on this forum would of liked to go for it in all Cups as well as the league. Promotion looks very likely so im surprised GFC didnt really go for it especialy the DIV 1 cup.

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I am sure the cup is taken seriously by all the sides,although saying that,if I was running guernsey in the position they are in the league,I would probably think about getting out of it asap,simply because of the extra travelling/costs and player availabilty.Of course,if cost isn't a problem and they can blood new players then fine but to send their first team squad over for cup matches is probably something a team going up for promotion could probably do without.

My own team are going for promotion and although I went to our league cup game,I was hardly distraught when we went out and judging by our line up nor was the club

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I am sure the cup is taken seriously by all the sides,although saying that,if I was running guernsey in the position they are in the league,I would probably think about getting out of it asap,simply because of the extra travelling/costs and player availabilty.Of course,if cost isn't a problem and they can blood new players then fine but to send their first team squad over for cup matches is probably something a team going up for promotion could probably do without.

My own team are going for promotion and although I went to our league cup game,I was hardly distraught when we went out and judging by our line up nor was the club

 

I have no doubt the club wanted to win the cup and the league but priority is promotion, cups are a bonus.

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jamie lawrence is at cobham now ex ashford town middlx manager an league player with numerous clubs maybe his arrival has boosted cobham maybe he brought a few of his academy in with him im led to believe he is only a player there though.......

 

He was definatley a major influence when they beat us 2-1 a few weeks back! Despite being 40 he was probably the fittest on the pitch and a lot of their play went through him.

Their manager is very good friends with him and also knows plenty of players who have played a higher level and has bought some of these in and it's starting to show with their results which have picked up. Apparently they train at Fulham FC's facility under the dome that is there which can only help knowing what it was like to train out the back at Cobham!!

Have heard there is money down there this season too, so it's hardly surprising to see people drop down!

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Surely if gurnsey have 30+ players to pick from of the island, surely it shouldn't be difficult to pick TWO decent 11 sides!

Fair point, the problem is there are not too many players of the class of Tardif, Black, Rihoy etc, some good players but perhaps not at their level.

Surprised only 2 subs though...

 

Is that right HKP only 2 subs ? thats shocking....really shocking if that is the case, Iam i right in thinking its not just 30 players GFC can pick from its any player who they deem good enough ? i take your point HKP that they may not be the qualty of Black,Tardif, Cochrane etc but how do Guernsey think they will progress if they only have a core of veru good players and the rest average .

 

I like Guernsey i really do enjoy watching them, and im sure most of the die hard Guernsey fans and many come on this forum would of liked to go for it in all Cups as well as the league. Promotion looks very likely so im surprised GFC didnt really go for it especialy the DIV 1 cup.

I had noticed that in a couple of games they have only had three subs, perhaps someone pulled out late?

As for the number of players, anyone playing in Guernsey can play for GFC once signed up, the crunch is are they prepared to play the odd game, often the away ones?

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jamie lawrence is at cobham now ex ashford town middlx manager an league player with numerous clubs maybe his arrival has boosted cobham maybe he brought a few of his academy in with him im led to believe he is only a player there though.......

 

He was definatley a major influence when they beat us 2-1 a few weeks back! Despite being 40 he was probably the fittest on the pitch and a lot of their play went through him.

Their manager is very good friends with him and also knows plenty of players who have played a higher level and has bought some of these in and it's starting to show with their results which have picked up. Apparently they train at Fulham FC's facility under the dome that is there which can only help knowing what it was like to train out the back at Cobham!!

Have heard there is money down there this season too, so it's hardly surprising to see people drop down!

talking to redders when lammas played them away a few weeks ago lawrence tore willmore at cb apart cobham trounced em 4 nil i think me minds gone, thing is im sure isiah rankine ex league goes where lawrence goes!?

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Yer like newby said when we played them a couple of weeks ago, everything went thru him! Luckily saturdau we had our skipper back and he totally marked him out the game and it disrupted everything for them. I also heard isah rankie is going there.

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Guernsey do have a problem with players unavailability for away fixtures. Tardif our keeper never travels midweek...

 

 

Quite a topic of coversation at full time between DFC and Sandhurst Officials in the bar,

 

General concensus of opinion was that their mid-week away games could be their downfall.

 

Incientally, it was nice to meet and chat with Sandhurst guys again.

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There was a lot of talk about this early season, Guernsey struggling with midweek games and that seems to be the case on this occation. Only 2 subs with the biggest squad of anyone.

 

If they do get promoted which i doubt they won't they will struggle next year im sure.

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Although as good as guernsey are they won't beat egham, Hanworth, guildford with the team they have at the moment. If they want to win the prem they have to get stronger.

 

I disagree I think will will beat Egham.

 

Hopefully Black, Rihoy and Dyer will be fit they are 3 of our best players and we are far more dangerous with these 3 players playing.

 

We are winning without them and that shows you our strength in depth.

 

Here we go again, you're not, 'cos you lost last night against Cobham with so called STAR players missing ! make your mind up, you cannot have the best of both you either can win or lose without them..........double edged knife if you ask me!!!

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Although as good as guernsey are they won't beat egham, Hanworth, guildford with the team they have at the moment. If they want to win the prem they have to get stronger.

 

I disagree I think will will beat Egham.

 

Hopefully Black, Rihoy and Dyer will be fit they are 3 of our best players and we are far more dangerous with these 3 players playing.

 

We are winning without them and that shows you our strength in depth.

 

Here we go again, you're not, 'cos you lost last night against Cobham with so called STAR players missing ! make your mind up, you cannot have the best of both you either can win or lose without them..........double edged knife if you ask me!!!

 

I didn't understand any of that ! lol

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