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I do agree with Adam.

He was stupid and it cost a young boy his life but he didn't pre meditate it,I know some will argue that once you get in a car over the limit you are almost guilty of anything that could possibly happen which includes killing someone but I do believe he has served his time and hopefully learned from this tragic mistake

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I felt physically sick reading this article by 'murderer' Luke McCormick in the Plymouth Herald, there's not a word of remorse and his arrogance is 'criminal':

 

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Goalkeeper-Luke-McCormick-talks-time-return/story-19523669-detail/story.html

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Well you've got a bit of a feeble constitution haven't you Rhodesly? 

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Loosely - So you don't agree he's a murderer then

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Loosely - So you don't agree he's a murderer then

I didn't say that did I Rhodesly? I was just implying that you're a lily-livered tw@t.

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If anything, he is a 'manslaughterer'.

 

He is not a murderer - a murderer plans to kill his/her victim beforehand.

 

Luke McCormick, as bad as he is, did not set out to murder anybody on that day.  His stupid actions resulted in death, but the deaths were accidental so by that count he is guilty of manslaughter but not of murder.

 

Rhodes, it's like saying that if you intended to stab me to death and did so then you would be a murderer - however, if you and I got into a fight outside a pub and you caught me with a blow to the temple and I later died, you would be guilty of manslaughter as the fight would not have been pre-planned and in the heat of the moment you lashed out and sent me off to meet my maker.

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If anything, he is a 'manslaughterer'.

 

He is not a murderer - a murderer plans to kill his/her victim beforehand.

 

Luke McCormick, as bad as he is, did not set out to murder anybody on that day.  His stupid actions resulted in death, but the deaths were accidental so by that count he is guilty of manslaughter but not of murder.

 

Rhodes, it's like saying that if you intended to stab me to death and did so then you would be a murderer - however, if you and I got into a fight outside a pub and you caught me with a blow to the temple and I later died, you would be guilty of manslaughter as the fight would not have been pre-planned and in the heat of the moment you lashed out and sent me off to meet my maker.

 

If anything, he is a 'manslaughterer'.

 

He is not a murderer - a murderer plans to kill his/her victim beforehand.

 

Luke McCormick, as bad as he is, did not set out to murder anybody on that day.  His stupid actions resulted in death, but the deaths were accidental so by that count he is guilty of manslaughter but not of murder.

 

Rhodes, it's like saying that if you intended to stab me to death and did so then you would be a murderer - however, if you and I got into a fight outside a pub and you caught me with a blow to the temple and I later died, you would be guilty of manslaughter as the fight would not have been pre-planned and in the heat of the moment you lashed out and sent me off to meet my maker.

The technicalities of McCormicks legal status are an irrelevance. The fact is that he drove a powerful car at reckless speeds while drunk and caused innocent people to die, and IMO that make him no better than a murderer. I personally couldn't care less if someone wants to employ him as a footballer, but I do passionately believe his four year driving ban was ridiculous, and this selfish, disgusting man should never be allowed to drive ever again.

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The bloke's entitled to make a living, we don't want him to be a burden on society any more than he already has been. I can't see the value of him bringing up the events every time he's asked his comments on the football club he plays for either. I'm sure his victim's family and friends don't want it brought up every five minutes either? Surely they must need closure at some point for their own sanity. Clearly Rhodesly's sanity is too late to worry about.

 

Agree with Alan, you don't put a gun or a knife back in the hands of a killer do you? You don't facilitate their opportunity to bring such sadness to others again? Take away the driving licences of killers, it's a privilege they're not safe with. What is wrong with our judiciary? 

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The bloke's entitled to make a living

So you're defending McCormick then

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So you're defending McCormick then

Where did I say that?

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The bloke's entitled to make a living

Loosely - This is where you appear to be defending McCormick

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Loosely - This is where you appear to be defending McCormick

Well you are wrong dickwad. How is it defending someone who has been in prison and is now out, whom society do not need another useless turd on the benefit game, to say he is entitled to work?

 

Honestly Rhodesly you need more medication.

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Loosely - Yes but should McCormick be allowed to just pick up the reins in the lucrative line of work he loves, that's my point as it's not a punishment for killing two young boys and crippling their father for life is it. Every football club in the land should have been instructed, in no uncertain terms, not to touch him with a barge pole.

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Loosely - Yes but should McCormick be allowed to just pick up the reins in the lucrative line of work he loves, that's my point as it's not a punishment for killing two young boys and crippling their father for life is it. Every football club in the land should have been instructed, in no uncertain terms, not to touch him with a barge pole.

I fail to see the relevance twatface. Footballing is what he is trained for and is skilled at. If he were a printer would you be calling for every printshop and printers in the land to blacklist him? You probably would and so, being untrained in any other trade you would expect him to re-train, being yet another burden on the public purse in some way while he did so.

 

It matters not. It's just Rhodesly howling at the moon again, unhappy with the orbit it takes for whatever reason he thinks he can try to prove. Take your meds Rhodesly, think calm thoughts.

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Loosely - So what about Phil and Amanda Peak, eight year old Ben and ten year old Arron's devastated parents, have you considered their feelings

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Rhodes, 

 

What Luke did was terrible, unforgivable and downright stupid.

 

However, to tell clubs not to give him a chance is stupid as well.  Let's say, for instance, that instead of Luke McCormick driving the car it was Rhodes who committed that offence.   Does Rhodes then deserve a second chance?   Very easy to judge in cold blood.

 

Had Luke McCormick done what Ian Watkins did, then absolutely he should never be free in a billion years.   

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Loosely - So what about Phil and Amanda Peak, eight year old Ben and ten year old Arron's devastated parents, have you considered their feelings

How interesting you should ask this knobjockey. Have you ever spared a thought for the family of Meredith Kercher when promoting and supporting the convicted criminal Amanda Knox? Have you ever denied her the right to make money from her skill at fiction writing?

 

Don't you feel that this perfectly demonstrates your hypocrisy?

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Zippy - Surely you agree that McCormick has got off lightly for snuffing out the lives of two young boys and totally devastating the lives of their parents with the father Phil being crippled for life due to the injuries he sustained, he must wish that he had died too with his sons in the crash. I don't think Loosely has taken that into account with his trademark flippant comments or put himself in their position.

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I don't know Luke personally, so I can't say how he feels about the whole ordeal.  How do we know for sure that he doesn't cry every night over what he has done?

 

If somebody accidentally killed somebody close to me, then yes I'd be upset and very angry.   However, if it was an accident, in time I may be able to forgive that person.  Had it been a premeditated killing then I wouldn't have been able ever to forgive them.

 

By all means, criticise what he has done, but what Luke did could have been done by any one of us had fate been different.   If it had been you who had done what Luke did, would you want others to eventually forgive you?

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Typical of our Rhodesly to sidestep the questions and points put to him. I've no doubt that readers see him for the hypocrite and shitestirrer that he is.

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I don't know Luke personally, so I can't say how he feels about the whole ordeal.  How do we know for sure that he doesn't cry every night over what he has done?

 

If somebody accidentally killed somebody close to me, then yes I'd be upset and very angry.   However, if it was an accident, in time I may be able to forgive that person.  Had it been a premeditated killing then I wouldn't have been able ever to forgive them.

 

By all means, criticise what he has done, but what Luke did could have been done by any one of us had fate been different.   If it had been you who had done what Luke did, would you want others to eventually forgive you?

The fact is though that it wasn't an accident, and crying himself to sleep every night is irrelevant. Mccormick drove a high powered car while p1ssed and I would imagine everyone on this planet would understand that its wrong. To say it could have been any one of us is just plain daft because most sensible people wouldn't dream of driving while over the limit. 

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Anyway all this talk about forgive and forget is all just so much bollix. No-one knows whether that family can forgive let alone forget except them and it's no one else's business if they do or they don't. McCormick is some kind of special a-hole who can stew for what he's done or make the most of what life has left for him after becoming such a reviled character. There for the grace of God and all that but no idiot has the right to say what he does for a job, or not. Not even that pr1ck Rhodesly.

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Typical of our Rhodesly to sidestep the questions and points put to him

What questions and points are you referring to out of interest.

I don't know whether any members have seen this unique footage of McCormick shortly after his arrest, he doesn't appear to be particularly remorseful when he learns from Police officers that he is a killer:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/3832122/Video-of-moment-Luke-McCormick-told-he-killed-child.html

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