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To the Honourable Mr.Whitelaw and the CCL Committee.

 

Have Guernsey FC,Contacted you as regards their proposals to Live stream all their Home and Away fixtures in Season 2012/13 on Guernsey TV?

 

Have you given permission for this to happen,do you need to give permission?

 

Being an ardent supporter of the CCL over the last 3 seasons,I feel we as supporters.. have a right to know.HAS A DEAL BEEN STRUCK?

 

 

 

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He may not but if you have a player under the age of 18 playing in any game that is being streamed Guernsey will require permission from the opposing club who would have sought it from the parents/guardian of the player. I would presume the CCL committee have this covered because they are very dilligent on the stuff they do.

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we need to protect our children not expose them, if they are filming which is good coverage for ccl albeit probably only in guernsey then each club should be contacted before season starts for parental/guardian approval!!

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Ryman League rules clearly state that the League owns the right to televised football. One assumes it's the same in the CCL and Smudge's question is I suspect perfectly valid therefore. I'd have thought GFC would however have been sensible enough to have approached the League - I can't believe they're that stupid or arrogant not to.

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Surely its a fairly simple question for someone to answer and could stop all of these rumours quickly?

 

Q: Has GFC contacted the League and clubs

A: Yes/No

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Question for Smudge: Why do you assume [as an ardent supporter] to have any rights to this information ?

 

Windsor Sec,everyone concerned with this League on this Forum,can ask Questions surely.Whether they get answered is another question.Maybe you can answer regards Windsor FC,or is it taboo to discuss League matters.No good going on the CCL Official Website,as has not been updated.

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Guernsey have contacted us and discussed this. We will be contacted soon by the people planning to film the games. I believe there will be the opportunity for the teams playing in Guernsey to have their own game streamed live into their club house for those that are unable to make the trip over to Guernsey.

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When the Sandhurst v Wembley game was filmed all players had to sign a form on the day giving their consent to being filmed

 

And the Club were paid were they not,which was the right thing to do.

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Guernsey have contacted us and discussed this. We will be contacted soon by the people planning to film the games. I believe there will be the opportunity for the teams playing in Guernsey to have their own game streamed live into their club house for those that are unable to make the trip over to Guernsey.

 

Good to know. I assume all clubs/leagues/fa's do know about this then in advance which is fair enough.

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Guernsey have contacted us and discussed this. We will be contacted soon by the people planning to film the games. I believe there will be the opportunity for the teams playing in Guernsey to have their own game streamed live into their club house for those that are unable to make the trip over to Guernsey.

 

But of course your Team will not be playing on that day at home,and if they are a pointless exercise.Guernsey have average attendances 1400,lets say 50 travel,that leaves 1350 at home in Guernsey,if 1000 sign up nice little earner £3000 a month.They will not bother to support the Priaulx on matchdays,therefore knocking their Revenue down,similar for the Rugby Club,you cant be in 2 places at the same time can you.Thanks for posting Spark 100,at least it has got the ball rolling.

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Guernsey have contacted the League. The matter has not come before the Management Committee as yet but as they were perfectly happy with Wembley arranging for filming and there is no league rule that I can see that would be contravened I have conveyed to them that I can see no objection.

 

The proviso is, of course, that every club is in control of its own ground and therefore they have a perfect right not to allow any filming if they have concerns for whatever reason. They can also apply whatever conditions they wish before giving approval, which in turn Guernsey can either accept or decline. I have also advised Guernsey to check with the FA that there is no objection.

 

I will not be commenting further as I will soon be knee deep in fixtures. If anyone has a genuine objection, they should speak to their Club Secretary who could then raise the matter officially with the League.

 

 

 

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Thanks for the reply Alan,so all Clubs have been contacted by the League and asked their views? Yet the Management Committee have not even discussed it yet,or given approval to the project.Seems like the Tail wagging the Dog here surely.

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Thank you Mr Whitelaw for hopefully closing yet another attempt to bring Guernsey into some kind of bad light. Everyone should know by now that Guernsey do things correctly, nothing is sent to the media without full investigation and communication

 

I didnt think about the angle of the English clubs being able to watch thier sides in Guernsey without travelling so that is excellent, another service for CCL supporters provided by GFC!

 

Now do us all a favour Smudge go off and find something else to do

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Yes indeed Good Luck Alan. We look forward to seeing you appear from under the fixtures at sometime in the near future.

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As though I am going to take any notice of you Guru,we live in a democracy,well at least we did.Guernsey have not got approval for this idea yet,as Whitelaw said'It has to go before the CCL Management Committee first'.Yet they have jumped the Gun,in announcing it will start on the 4th August 2012,without the League knowing if the F.A. WOULD APPROVE IT,or if it contravened any Rules.How can the CCL APPROVE IT WITHOUT CHECKING OUT THE RULES.Ludicrous!!!!However would advise all Clubs to forget the carrot,of MAYBE streaming their AWAY game to their Clubhouse,and opt for a set rate Fee of £200 everytime they are featured Live on Guernsey T.V,This would go someway to paying your League Membership Fee.

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Good luck with the fixtures Alan - let's hope the Combined Counties isn't the last Step 5/6 league to release it's fixtures in full!

 

Western, Hellenic, Wessex, Midland Alliance, North West & North East leagues already have their fixtures out.

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I am sure that all CCL clubs will listen to what you have recommended Smudge and will of course ensure that they run it pass you before negotiating any future finance deals. Where would this league be without you? What would the clubs do without you? How empty would this forum be without you? Do you really think that all of the clubs in the CCL need your comments or ideas before acting? After visiting many of them in this our first season I now know that they all know what they are doing, are very well organised and able to fend for themselves. The world of Smudge and his recommendations are not required to facilitate the smooth running of the CCL, I know this will be a surprise to you but the Management Committee can do a very good job without you and I am sure they will keep all of our clubs on the straight and narrow without any of your negativity or bias opinions. Take it from me GFC will not do anything illegal or in contravention of the rules policed by the Management Committee or any other agency. So please relax and find something else to rant about

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I agree with Guernsey Guru - it's not as if they are doing anything immoral or illegal.

 

You cannot have a 'communist' attitude to how football is run - some animals will be more equal than others, and it's up to the others to prove that they can compete with the bigger sides and beat them.

 

Smudge, if you won the lottery and put money into your club but then got flack for doing so by posters on here, I'm sure that you'd be cross at people daring to oppose what you are doing.

 

As I said before, so long as a club is being run well and the Board are not ripping fans off nor getting money from illicit sources (drug dealing/child porn) then what's the problem? If somebody bought Gloucester City out and promised to build our new stadium and take us into the Football League, then so long as he/she is legit I'd warmly welcome it!

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I agree with Guernsey Guru - it's not as if they are doing anything immoral or illegal.

 

You cannot have a 'communist' attitude to how football is run - some animals will be more equal than others, and it's up to the others to prove that they can compete with the bigger sides and beat them.

 

Smudge, if you won the lottery and put money into your club but then got flack for doing so by posters on here, I'm sure that you'd be cross at people daring to oppose what you are doing.

 

As I said before, so long as a club is being run well and the Board are not ripping fans off nor getting money from illicit sources (drug dealing/child porn) then what's the problem? If somebody bought Gloucester City out and promised to build our new stadium and take us into the Football League, then so long as he/she is legit I'd warmly welcome it!

 

Problem is Adam,seen it all before in many different guises,Canvey,Hornchurch,Farnborough,Croydon Athletic,Weymouth,to name a few.Lets take Guernsey and more so Guernsey Guru,why did they get elected into the CCL,because they promised to pay all Clubs Expenses when playing in Guernsey,if they had not they would not of got elected.Now they throw it back in my face,a person who has not had a freebie.Yes they are a well run Club,but in my opinion they have done a Knaphill,by going behind Clubs backs to the League Secretary,not the Committee,or Clubs, to air their proposals.Then advertised it for all an sundry, before it is a done deal.They were treated with kid gloves last year,by the CCL Committee,who bent over backwards to help them in anyway they could,Member Clubs should all be treated equal,no Bank Holiday Fixtures,7 out of 8 of their last games at home.Guildford flying over midweek to bring a fixture forward because the Ground they share was booked for the Saturday.As for me winning the lottery,impossible,as I do not do it,more chance of getting run over by a Bus.Would Guru like to give us his views,on the Ground grading,can he blame me for that also.

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