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FA Website said A v A,more importantly presume you will get the 3 pts,but with it being so tight at the Top.Goal difference could be a decider,do they give you any goals as well as the points?   To

But you haven't been on here long.  The thing about this forum is you can read good and bad posts depending on ones opinion. And you do learn a lot about other clubs on here.

To be fair this ain't Duncs fault is it. The rot started long before this - problems like this happen when you use money to build a squad of players that don't care about the club

FA Website said A v A,more importantly presume you will get the 3 pts,but with it being so tight at the Top.Goal difference could be a decider,do they give you any goals as well as the points?

 

To be honest I'm not sure. A few years ago Croydon cried off and we got nothing except the game played later in the season on a Wednesday night and we only drew that one. I suppose the fact that team sheets - well ours at least - had been handed in and the lads were literally coming in from the warm up, plus the referee had told us that the game was going ahead as they had the minimum requirement to start - could mean that they would give us the points. However, my recollection from the past is that it would be something like a 2-0 which, with due respect, we would have hoped to have bettered on the day anyway. Certainly had the game gone ahead with the seven men we would have been disappointed with 2-0. Problem is that, whilst goal difference could come into it, should we have to play them later this season they may be in a better position team-wise, as they appear to have at least one excellent candidate looking for the job (Don't ask me to disclose any names).

We feel that effectively the game was live and should have gone ahead under FA rules - remember they ultimately refused to play - so the points should go to us and the goal difference is something we will have to deal with by trying to win games that are coming up. 

 

If they had seven they should have played shouldn't they? 

 

As above, yes. Let's make it clear though, the lads there on the day are not the culprits and it possibly wasn't a very enticing prospect having to go out and play a game in such circumstances. However, rules are rules, but we will see what happens when the management committee meet up.

 

At least it was not too bad a day elsewhere for us as far as certain results went, I just hope we get the chance to take out our frustrations on Tuesday night against Epsom in the Surrey Senior Cup.

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To be fair, Ascot are a good side but we battled hard which is the basic request of our guys this season.

Good news for Westfield who we now visit next Saturday. Good win for them yesterday so another tough game ahead for us. I like them though and enjoy visiting Woking Park.

Good to see you yesterday and I hope you make the game Wednesday week at Wibbandune. That should be a good 'un too!

Be good to see you Chris. There will be a warm welcome as always.

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FA Website said A v A,more importantly presume you will get the 3 pts,but with it being so tight at the Top.Goal difference could be a decider,do they give you any goals as well as the points?

 

To be honest I'm not sure. A few years ago Croydon cried off and we got nothing except the game played later in the season on a Wednesday night and we only drew that one. I suppose the fact that team sheets - well ours at least - had been handed in and the lads were literally coming in from the warm up, plus the referee had told us that the game was going ahead as they had the minimum requirement to start - could mean that they would give us the points. However, my recollection from the past is that it would be something like a 2-0 which, with due respect, we would have hoped to have bettered on the day anyway. Certainly had the game gone ahead with the seven men we would have been disappointed with 2-0. Problem is that, whilst goal difference could come into it, should we have to play them later this season they may be in a better position team-wise, as they appear to have at least one excellent candidate looking for the job (Don't ask me to disclose any names).

We feel that effectively the game was live and should have gone ahead under FA rules - remember they ultimately refused to play - so the points should go to us and the goal difference is something we will have to deal with by trying to win games that are coming up. 

 

If they had seven they should have played shouldn't they? 

 

As above, yes. Let's make it clear though, the lads there on the day are not the culprits and it possibly wasn't a very enticing prospect having to go out and play a game in such circumstances. However, rules are rules, but we will see what happens when the management committee meet up.

 

At least it was not too bad a day elsewhere for us as far as certain results went, I just hope we get the chance to take out our frustrations on Tuesday night against Epsom in the Surrey Senior Cup.

Steve - did the ref tell them to start the game though? Did they even get changed?

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Let's get this right, I am not digging out anyone who was there, one of which was Duncs.

 

The referee told us that he had confirmed to Frimley that the game would go ahead as they met the criteria as far as numbers went.

 

I was in our changing room doing the set plays whilst our lads warmed up and my main concern was having to make sure our lads went out with the right attitude, in view of the circumstances. I cannot honestly say whether or not the players they had there actually changed.

 

The Frimley people at the game were very apologetic and, as I said earlier, they are not the ones at fault as such. 

 

It was very frustrating all round as a lot of work goes into organising a game these days but, with the recent wet weather followed up by a severe frost, it was an even greater effort that was required by the people at the club to get the place ready.

 

Enough said now, we move on to Tuesday night and leave yesterday in the hands of the CCL committee.

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What did happen at molesey yesterday?

Are frimley allowed to play with 7?

 

Feel sorry for the 7 players that turned up.

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Dave,hammer59 has told you all what happened,Frimley only had 7 players and refused to play.Only 1 winner in this,the League coffers.Was Duncs even there?

He has Smudge, I like to have both sides if I can though.

Darren is right, the rot had set in a while ago there and it's not Duncs fault.

Good luck whoever takes it on.

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There was a similar situation in this League a year or two back when Badshot Lea failed to fulfil at Horley.

 

I believe Horley were awarded the points with a 0-0 scoreline and I imagine there was probably a fine too which ITK may be able to confirm?

 

Having said that, it all depends on the circumstances and that's why we have a Management Committee. For example, say there had been an accident on the way to the ground and four players were caught up in either the accident itself or a tailback. There can be a number of reasons why a team is short.

 

However, if they were short and said there were no more coming as is suggested here, it looks like Molesey will get the points with no difference to their GD which isn't the worst result bearing in mind that their GD is already the best in the League. If it is awarded with 0-0 at least it will be one less fixture to play.

 

Back to Epsom now. The match report from our defeat to Farnham Town is here:

 

http://www.eefconline.co.uk/LCN138.html

 

We continue to miss suspended players, just the three midfielders this time, but that aside, I make two further observations:

 

1) Farnham looked a very good side, especially going forward. A top half finish awaits them at this rate, maybe at our expense.

2) How good must Badshot Lea be right now? Anyone who beats this Farnham team 7-0 must be playing at a level way above this league. Pity for them that the best they will get this season appears to be sixth place. The goal they conceded to Cove was the first since we got two penalties against them on 13th December and they are scoring for fun. Cove won't be the last team they upset this season and if I was Corinthian Casuals (their SSC oponents) I'd be worried right now.

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There was a similar situation in this League a year or two back when Badshot Lea failed to fulfil at Horley.

 

I believe Horley were awarded the points with a 0-0 scoreline and I imagine there was probably a fine too which ITK may be able to confirm?

 

Having said that, it all depends on the circumstances and that's why we have a Management Committee. For example, say there had been an accident on the way to the ground and four players were caught up in either the accident itself or a tailback. There can be a number of reasons why a team is short.

 

However, if they were short and said there were no more coming as is suggested here, it looks like Molesey will get the points with no difference to their GD which isn't the worst result bearing in mind that their GD is already the best in the League. If it is awarded with 0-0 at least it will be one less fixture to play.

 

Back to Epsom now. The match report from our defeat to Farnham Town is here:

 

http://www.eefconline.co.uk/LCN138.html

 

We continue to miss suspended players, just the three midfielders this time, but that aside, I make two further observations:

 

1) Farnham looked a very good side, especially going forward. A top half finish awaits them at this rate, maybe at our expense.

2) How good must Badshot Lea be right now? Anyone who beats this Farnham team 7-0 must be playing at a level way above this league. Pity for them that the best they will get this season appears to be sixth place. The goal they conceded to Cove was the first since we got two penalties against them on 13th December and they are scoring for fun. Cove won't be the last team they upset this season and if I was Corinthian Casuals (their SSC oponents) I'd be worried right now.

Badshot Lea are very, very good at the moment. Tommo and Barney have managed to put together a team of mates who have all been proven at this level and some higher. Their keeper on Saturday was Somerville (just left Slough) and against Farnham was Luke Williams (now Slough) which shows they have a good network of players and, with the leagues most in form striker in Danny Turner hitting his 20th of the season, I bet they're gutted the season didn't start after 10 games.  

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Was a feisty affair at Cove on Saturday with the in-from Baggies coming over to us. We started the brighter but lacked composure in front of goal and it was Baggy who took the lead through DT - good strike through a load of bodies following a half cleared corner. A few minutes later they increased their lead following a well worked set pieces and great block on our marker. In that period they had another good chance but as expected we got on top and were banging on the door fairly hard before two moments that changed the game entirely. 

A Lea player produced a shocking tackle of Jeff Paris, high (above the ankle) and late on the standing foot....at any level other than ours he goes automatically. Some refs in this league give those others don't - yellow card produced. On 35 minutes Toby Janaway went in high and late in the same area on the pitch. The ball had bounced and was high - was there to be won and Toby didn't win it and caught Gav Muir, difference being not on the standing leg and not a leg breaker. Red card produced. 

For me and it isnt rose tinted - Tobys was the lesser of the tackles but if the first player goes and the ref sends Toby then fair enough but we felt massively hard done by. Toby has been a clown in the past and his reputation proceeds him a lot and I think it was a case of this....

Forgetting the small stuff the referee wasn't strong enough for a game that was always going to be played with that little edge to it and we are disappointed in his inconsistency. I will say the ref didn't lose us the game - we did that by conceding two from set plays in a game we were relatively comfortable in albeit a 15 minute window in which they scored twice. Despite being a man down we went on to hit the bar, miss from a yard out and have other good opportunities. What the ref did was deny us the opportunity to get back into the game and expose areas we thought we could get joy out of.

All in all a day were nothing went right for us but we will live to fight another day. 

With Jake Baxter returning after a 10 week lay off, Michael Buck playing back to back games for the first time this season and Jack Coventry finding his fitness we will press on til the bitter end. If anyone thinks our recent slump in form is to do with the promotion issues that would be misplaced. We were bare-bones against Westfield, guilty of 4 out 5 defenders (inc GK) having stinkers against Ashford and showing massive disrespect and being outworked by a decent Farnham team. I expect us to find our form again very soon (we are a better team now than this time last season when we went 15 wins on the bounce) and this is achievable...obviously it isn't in our hands anymore and I do think Camberley will extend their winning run for some time yet so for us and others its about staying in it (thats not saying Molesey can't do the same as Camb).

Will make for an interesting run in that's for sure.

Lastly, credit where its due and the turnaround at B Lea is quite something. Tommo has galvanised them and they are playing for each other which goes a long way in this league. I anticipate them being top 6 this season and they will catch a few out whilst they are on this run. 

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Horley Town 1 Windsor 2

 

A bit better performence but still lacked anything in midfield some strange subs! At least we scored and Windsor only got the winner through a penalty.

See Horley score below

 

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Badshot Lea are very, very good at the moment. Tommo and Barney have managed to put together a team of mates who have all been proven at this level and some higher. Their keeper on Saturday was Somerville (just left Slough) and against Farnham was Luke Williams (now Slough) which shows they have a good network of players and, with the leagues most in form striker in Danny Turner hitting his 20th of the season, I bet they're gutted the season didn't start after 10 games.  

 

The Luke Williams situation raises an interesting point.  Slough were initially prevented in signing him at the end of last week due to the liquidators taking over his contract and according to Slough Towns joint-manager Jon Underwood not allowing him to play for anyone and wanting 14 days notice.

 

Now, Slough managed to get that sorted and he was able to play last Saturday, but what clearance did Badshot Lea get to be able to play him?

 

This isn't just something that I have pulled out of thin air, you can read the article at - http://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/sport/football/articles/2015/01/16/106802-slough-town-fc-suffer-double-scare/

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With the weather and the way pitches are developing over the next few months, I believe Camberley are favourites. There style of play is suitable for the conditions.

Cove will come up short, due to not being strong enough at the back.

I believe Ashford will fall short due to the age and there style of play. They are not adaptable to the away pitches and all beit very good at home.

Molesey are the other team that could become dark horses.

With the results being so up and down with the top 6, could be a very interesting end to the season.

 

Is true, if 1st cannot be promoted. The next club eligible will be?

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Is true, if 1st cannot be promoted. The next club eligible will be?

 

Any one of the top three can take the promotion place from step 5 these days.

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