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There's new criteria that our ground does not meet like toilets in the changing rooms, and wash basin and two sides of hard standing, etc, we and Laleham together will endeavour to get the ground up to the standards that are required this season.

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Knaphill report,New drainage works,Painting a new Standing Stand,Top soiling and reseeding the pitch.Must say the ex Division 1 sides,put the old established Clubs in the CCL to shame,ground improveme

Have heard its down to no toilets and sink within the changing room itself!   Some strange decisions sometimes.

There's new criteria that our ground does not meet like toilets in the changing rooms, and wash basin and two sides of hard standing, etc, we and Laleham together will endeavour to get the ground up t

We have undertaken ground inspections at all four clubs in Div One, now including Staines Lammas, who do not meet with the full requirements of Grade G.  All four clubs have received, or will receive, a full report outlining exactly what they must do to comply with Grade G by 31 March 2016 (excluding lights, which are deferred until 31 March 2018).

 

I don't know for sure but probably one reason Laleham FC were refused promotion was because there is a problem at Staines Lammas in that there are no separate toilets for either players or match officials.  All have to use the same toilets as people using the club house.

 

Lammas are protected this next season due to the FA's decision to allow clubs already in their respective Step 6 Division to have until 31 March 2016 to comply.

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I bet Lammas wished they had known the moving of the goalposts by the F.A. for lights to 2018 last year,would of saved them a few grand in groundsharing.So just a bit of hardstanding,rails,an odd loo or too with wash basins will suffice for 2 more seasons minimum,the shame is they could of done this work last year.

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Not really Smudge. Lammas surely intended to get promotion to Step Five when they moved in at Ashford. Regardless of any issues with their ground re: step six, it clearly wasn't close to getting a step five grading.

 

I am intrigued as to the reason for the move back. If it is just costs, that makes sense, but does that mean they are just happy to kick around at Step Six with no aspirations any more or do they still hope to get their own ground sorted out to step five standard?

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Not really Smudge. Lammas surely intended to get promotion to Step Five when they moved in at Ashford. Regardless of any issues with their ground re: step six, it clearly wasn't close to getting a step five grading.

 

I am intrigued as to the reason for the move back. If it is just costs, that makes sense, but does that mean they are just happy to kick around at Step Six with no aspirations any more or do they still hope to get their own ground sorted out to step five standard?

 

 

Could be a case of them looking round for someone with some commercial acumen that could bring money into the club.

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We at Staines Lammas have moved back home for the right reasons, over the pass few years we have gone from 4 teams to 1, and I believe that we lost the soul of the club when we ground shared and we needed to go home and build the club again.

 

We have a long road ahead, we have a new management team and the committee is increasing in size with new and old people joining the club, we will do our best to get all the ground improvements met by March 2016, so we can stay in this division, unfortunately without floodlights we can not get promoted, however we will try to find a solution for the future.

 

Imo ground sharing is something that should only be done short term, if there is a permanent floodlit ground in the pipeline such as CB Hounslow have then it makes sense.

 

At the end of the day the club needs to grow organically, we will not pay players and we want players who want to play for the badge and club, if step six is our limit then I would like us to become the best we can be at that level, both on and off the pitch and I know we are a long way off that.

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Guildford City know only too well the cost of playing in the Southern S&W! It has taken quite some time to recover. It's not just the cost of the travelling, it's also the time involved. Many players just couldn't commit to leaving for midweek away games at 4pm, and getting home gone midnight.

 

I wonder if Godalming now become vulnerable to a late switch to S&W, with possibly AFC Hayes getting a late reprieve.

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A look at the table when Ashford were in a similar position. Due to the amount of southern teams Ashford most northerly, the only way out was to get promotion. After loosing out in the playoffs, season 2005/6 saw promotion to Ryman Premier

 

Southern Div. 1 S&W, 2005-06 P W D L GF GA Pts.

Clevedon Town 42 28 6 8 86 45 90

Ashford Town (Middlesex). 42 24 8 10 84 50 80

Brackley Town 42 23 9 10 71 34 78

Hemel Hempstead Town. 42 22 9 11 86 47 75

Swindon Supermarine 42 22 9 11 70 47 75

Marlow 42 22 6 14 62 59 72

Sutton Coalfield Town 42 21 6 15 91 62 69

Leighton Town 42 19 8 15 55 48 65

Willenhall Town 42 17 12 13 78 61 63

Rushall Olympic 42 17 11 14 73 57 62

Bromsgrove Rovers. 42 17 11 14 65 50 62

Solihull Borough 42 15 13 14 50 51 58

Beaconsfield SYCOB 42 14 13 15 60 66 55

Burnham 42 16 5 21 58 71 53

Cinderford Town 42 14 9 19 71 79 51

Bedworth United 42 14 9 19 46 57 51

Paulton Rovers 42 12 10 20 55 76 46

Taunton Town 42 12 9 21 67 81 45

Bracknell Town 42 12 6 24 53 77 42

Stourport Swifts 42 9 14 19 55 80 41

Dunstable Town 42 8 12 22 45 91 36

Thame United 42 4 5 33 30 122 17

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THE Evo-Stik League Southern have had a major reshuffle after the news that Clevedon Town would be relegated from Division One South & West.

 

The Seasiders lost an appeal against their ground grading and will subsequently be demoted to Step 5 of the Non-League Pyramid.

 

To cover the loss of Clevedon, seven teams have been moved around, with Redbridge gaining a reprieve to stay in Ryman Division One North.

 

Fleet Town and Petersfield Town have been moved to Division One Central from the South & West division while Burnham, Flackwell Heath and Marlow will be going in the opposite direction.

 

Lastly, Ware will be moving into the Southern Division One Central from the Ryman North – a move that has been mooted previously.

 

Flackwell Heath boss Graham Malcolm tweeted: “So 12 teams in the central league under an hour away. How many in the s&w. NONE. You just couldn’t make it up.”

 

Marlow manager Mark Bartley added: “This potential league move makes no sense at all for us. Finally in a league with “local-ish” games and they try to send us to Devon

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And it's changed again as Flackwell Heath have just announced they won't now be taking up their promotion, presumably as a direct result of the transfer.

 

Whilst I sympathise with Flackwell, this sort of thing at this late stage doesn't help anyone and may even have a knock on effect over here if Highmoor Ibis don't take Flackwell's place as Redhill were, I believe, next in line for a reprieve. If that left us with 21, would we now drop to 20 etc. etc. 

 

I think that any team that declines promotion, having applied for it, should be blocked from applying the following season too. That might sound harsh, but either you want Step Four football or you don't and the middle of June is too late to make the decision.

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A Redhill reprieve has been banded as most probable as they were indeed the next club to be reprieved.

 

I am sure we will hear more very shortly. Another season with an odd number of teams.

Who will get Christmas week off?

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A Redhill reprieve has been banded as most probable as they were indeed the next club to be reprieved.

 

I am sure we will hear more very shortly. Another season with an odd number of teams.

Who will get Christmas week off?

 

If Redhill get a reprieve then someone will have to move out of the Helenic and across otherwise you will have too many in the that division.

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I think we should throw all the names in a hat and start again.

 

Maybe the Hogwarts Sorting-Hat might be of use !

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The "regulations for the Operation of the National League System" make it quite clear that clubs finishing in 2nd or 3rd place can be considered for promotion if the club finishing1st is not eligible (which is not quite the right word here, but the principle of 2nd/3rd placed clubs being considered seems clear enough.  I would therefore expect that Higmoor Ibis, who finished 2nd in the Hellenic will be given the opportunity to progress, especially as I have heard they are willing to step up.

 

Were Redhill to be reprieved, where would they go? - the Ryman League AGM has been held and the constitution set.

 

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The "regulations for the Operation of the National League System" make it quite clear that clubs finishing in 2nd or 3rd place can be considered for promotion if the club finishing1st is not eligible (which is not quite the right word here, but the principle of 2nd/3rd placed clubs being considered seems clear enough.  I would therefore expect that Higmoor Ibis, who finished 2nd in the Hellenic will be given the opportunity to progress, especially as I have heard they are willing to step up.

 

Were Redhill to be reprieved, where would they go? - the Ryman League AGM has been held and the constitution set.

 

 

 

Quite so Alan.

 

It's all a tad too late for re-reconstruction.

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