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Monday 11th April


Division 1


Epsom Athletic v Worcester Park


Tuesday 12th April


Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final


Ashford Town(Mx) v Camberley Town


Premier Division


AFC Hayes v Epsom & Ewell


Chessington & Hook United v Hartley Wintney


Farnham Town v Sutton Common Rovers


Knaphill v Hanworth Villa


Raynes Park Vale v Redhill


Westfield v Horley Town


Division 1


Dorking v Farleigh Rovers


Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Eversley & California


South Park Reserves v Banstead Athletic


Wednesday 13th April


Division 1


Epsom Athletic v Sandhurst Town


Thursday 14th April


Premier Division


Chessington & Hook United v Horley Town


Farnham Town v Westfield


Division 1


Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Abbey Rangers (TBC)


 


Elsewhere – Walton & Hersham will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they fail to beat Dorking Wanderers on Tuesday evening at Stompond Lane.


Farnborough will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they lose at Kingstonian on Monday evening and Needham Market win at Enfield Town next Saturday.


Kidlington are the Hellenic League champions.


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North Greenford look like being relegated too, they come out of the C / C I believe, three teams possibly relegated to our league won't leave many spots for promotion from Div 1

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Burnham southern South West also another local team dicing with relegation they could go Hellenic, N G U could go Spartan. Still leaving a possible relegation for Farnborough and Walton to C / C

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North Greenford look like being relegated too, they come out of the C / C I believe, three teams possibly relegated to our league won't leave many spots for promotion from Div 1

 

Doesn't work like that. The CCL1 clubs will still get promoted to Step 5 if eligible but they or other teams could be pushed sideways by the FALC. 

 

So for example, current projections have AFC Hayes and North Greenford being in SSM league not CCL.

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Current projections (presumably taken from the TK forum) are no more than the instigator's predictions but with no inside knowledge and are often completely wrong - did any of them predict that AFC Hayes, for example, would come to us this season?  Anyone can sit down with a map and make predictions but that is all it is.

 

It won't be until after the May meetings at the FA that we will know who's going where, and every season there are surprises.  Neither would I risk any money that Farnborough FC will be in the CCL next season. 

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It would be so unfair if we have 3 div 1 clubs eligible to promote that don't all make it. Why strive for it if it is taken away from you?

Nuff said

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I tend to agree that it would be unfair and very disappointing for any club in Division One to be be denied promotion if, for example, two (or more) clubs are relegated into our Premier Division from Step 4 with only one going up.  However, the possibility has to be pointed out (it is better that clubs know in advance rather than coming as a major shock in the middle of May) and it could be argued that there should only be two promotion places anyway in a division of just 17 clubs.

 

However, should we have a rule to say that as many clubs will be relegated from the Premier Division as necessary so as to allow the top three in Division One to be guaranteed promotion?  Would clubs in the Premier Division vote in favour if we did propose such a rule change?  Most of our rules are dictated by the FA but I believe that we can still set our own regarding promotion/relegation and it is open to any Club Secretary to propose a rule change, so long as there is a seconder. 

 

It is on the cards that all Step 3 and 4 divisions will go back to 22 clubs at some stage in the future.  That may also impact upon us and if in addition we were to be forced to reduce ourselves to 20 clubs, which I know would be the preferred option of some, we could find considerably more than 3 clubs being relegated at the end of  the season in which the change takes place.

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Monday 11th April

Division 1

Epsom Athletic v Worcester Park

Tuesday 12th April

Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final

Ashford Town(Mx) v Camberley Town

Premier Division

AFC Hayes v Epsom & Ewell

Chessington & Hook United v Hartley Wintney

Farnham Town v Sutton Common Rovers

Knaphill v Hanworth Villa

Raynes Park Vale v Redhill

Westfield v Horley Town

Division 1

Dorking v Farleigh Rovers

Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Eversley & California

South Park Reserves v Banstead Athletic

Wednesday 13th April

Division 1

Epsom Athletic v Sandhurst Town

Thursday 14th April

Premier Division

Chessington & Hook United v Horley Town

Farnham Town v Westfield

Division 1

Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Abbey Rangers (TBC)

 

Elsewhere – Walton & Hersham will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they fail to beat Dorking Wanderers on Tuesday evening at Stompond Lane.

Farnborough will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they lose at Kingstonian on Monday evening and Needham Market win at Enfield Town next Saturday.

Kidlington are the Hellenic League champions.

 

How many get relegated in Farnborough's division Chris?

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I tend to agree that it would be unfair and very disappointing for any club in Division One to be be denied promotion if, for example, two (or more) clubs are relegated into our Premier Division from Step 4 with only one going up.  However, the possibility has to be pointed out (it is better that clubs know in advance rather than coming as a major shock in the middle of May) and it could be argued that there should only be two promotion places anyway in a division of just 17 clubs.

 

However, should we have a rule to say that as many clubs will be relegated from the Premier Division as necessary so as to allow the top three in Division One to be guaranteed promotion?  Would clubs in the Premier Division vote in favour if we did propose such a rule change?  Most of our rules are dictated by the FA but I believe that we can still set our own regarding promotion/relegation and it is open to any Club Secretary to propose a rule change, so long as there is a seconder. 

 

It is on the cards that all Step 3 and 4 divisions will go back to 22 clubs at some stage in the future.  That may also impact upon us and if in addition we were to be forced to reduce ourselves to 20 clubs, which I know would be the preferred option of some, we could find considerably more than 3 clubs being relegated at the end of  the season in which the change takes place.

 

 

Projections are of course just guesswork and with the FA, it can be a futile exercise I admit but there are ways that three CCL1 clubs could be promoted even with several clubs dropping down into the CCLP.

 

And the rumour is that Step 3 leagues will relegate six next season to get back down to 22. This could cause changes further down the pyramid of course.

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FT - Epsom Athletic 0-6 Worcester Park (at Bedfont & Feltham)

 

Elsewhere - Kingstonian 1-2 Farnborough

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Monday 11th April

Division 1

Epsom Athletic v Worcester Park

Tuesday 12th April

Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final

Ashford Town(Mx) v Camberley Town

Premier Division

AFC Hayes v Epsom & Ewell

Chessington & Hook United v Hartley Wintney

Farnham Town v Sutton Common Rovers

Knaphill v Hanworth Villa

Raynes Park Vale v Redhill

Westfield v Horley Town

Division 1

Dorking v Farleigh Rovers

Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Eversley & California

South Park Reserves v Banstead Athletic

Wednesday 13th April

Division 1

Epsom Athletic v Sandhurst Town

Thursday 14th April

Premier Division

Chessington & Hook United v Horley Town

Farnham Town v Westfield

Division 1

Dorking Wanderers Reserves v Abbey Rangers (TBC)

 

Elsewhere – Walton & Hersham will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they fail to beat Dorking Wanderers on Tuesday evening at Stompond Lane.

Farnborough will be relegated (probably to the CCL) if they lose at Kingstonian on Monday evening and Needham Market win at Enfield Town next Saturday.

Kidlington are the Hellenic League champions.

Ludicrous fixtures,how can a ground be unplayable for months,be expected to host 4 games in 4 days,is a heatwave forecast?

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Ludicrous fixtures,how can a ground be unplayable for months,be expected to host 4 games in 4 days,is a heatwave forecast?

 

17 degrees tomorrow!

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Another Step 4 club whose fans have some sort of attitude towards the CCL.  I am guessing they are going to finish below both South Park and Molesey both recent CCL teams !

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Definitely some interesting comments there from W & H  'supporters'

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LATEST SCORES


 


Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final


Ashford Town(Mx) 0-2 Camberley Town (Ford, Bunyan)


Premier Division


AFC Hayes 0-3 Epsom & Ewell (Griffin, Cooper-Smith, Hough)


Chessington & Hook United 0-0 Hartley Wintney


Farnham Town 0-1 Sutton Common Rovers (Page)


Knaphill (Kabuye , Postance, Dilloway OG) 3-1 Hanworth Villa (Shennan) HT


Raynes Park Vale 0-0 Redhill


Westfield 0-0 Horley Town


Division 1


Dorking (Wright) 1-0 Farleigh Rovers


Dorking Wanderers Reserves 1-2 Eversley & California


South Park Reserves 0-0 Banstead Athletic


Southern Combination Cup Quarter Final


Chertsey Town 0-0 Molesey


 


Also


Walton & Hersham 0-1 Dorking Wanderers


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LATEST SCORES


 


Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final


Ashford Town(Mx) 0-3 Camberley Town (Ford, Bunyan 2) 


Premier Division


AFC Hayes 0-7 Epsom & Ewell (Griffin, Cooper-Smith, Hough 2, Panayiotou, Farrell, Neale)


Chessington & Hook United 1-2 Hartley Wintney (Stow 2)


Farnham Town 2-1 Sutton Common Rovers (Page)


Knaphill (Kabuye, Postance, Dilloway OG, Taylor) 4-2 Hanworth Villa (Shennan, Atiase) FT


Raynes Park Vale 0-1 Redhill (Marks)


Westfield 2-0 Horley Town FT


Division 1


Dorking (Wright 2) 2-1 Farleigh Rovers


Dorking Wanderers Reserves 3-3 Eversley & California


South Park Reserves 0-0 Banstead Athletic


Southern Combination Cup Quarter Final


Chertsey Town (Mealing) 1-1 Molesey 


 


Also


Walton & Hersham 1-3 Dorking Wanderers 


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FT = FULL TIME


 


Cherry Red Records Premier Challenge Cup Semi-Final


Ashford Town(Mx) 0-3 Camberley Town (Ford, Bunyan 2) FT


Premier Division


AFC Hayes 0-7 Epsom & Ewell (Griffin, Cooper-Smith, Hough 2, Panayiotou, Farrell, Neale) FT


Chessington & Hook United 1-2 Hartley Wintney (Stow 2) FT


Farnham Town (Glass 2) 2-1 Sutton Common Rovers (Page) FT


Knaphill (Kabuye, Postance, Dilloway OG, Taylor) 4-2 Hanworth Villa (Shennan, Atiase) FT


Raynes Park Vale 0-1 Redhill (Marks) FT


Westfield 2-0 Horley Town FT


Division 1


Dorking (Wright 2, Smith, Bransbury) 4-1 Farleigh Rovers FT


Dorking Wanderers Reserves 3-3 Eversley & California FT


South Park Reserves 2-2 Banstead Athletic FT


Southern Combination Cup Quarter Final


Chertsey Town (Mealing) 1-1 Molesey FT (extra time - Molesey won 4-2 on pens)


 


Also


Walton & Hersham 1-4 Dorking Wanderers FT (Walton relegated)


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