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As behindthegoal said, I'd have no problem with some complimentary/half-price tickets as a one-off inticement, perhaps handed out to clubs like Guru Nanak to administer who gets the tickets.

 

You could repeat it across the Gravesend League and get a whole host of clubs involved - say, Guru Nanak for one game, then another team the next home game, etc.

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Why don't we just give it a go?If these people aren't coming to the games already we're not going to lose any money,and if only 10% of them turn up again thats still more fans through the turnstiles.Not forgetting programmes, money spent in the bar etc.

Since we did the free enterance for kids our gates seem to have improved(though over factors have certainly influenced the gates).

At the end of the day what have we got to lose?Nothing.

What have we got to gain? A full time status.

Simple as.

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Fair play to the fellow for making his suggestion, because that is what the forum is here for.

However G & N IS an English or at a push British club. I get really hacked off with this politically correct hogwash. When in Rome etc.

England happens to be multi-cultural and in my opinion it is pretty good at being so.

 

I reckon that like the Old Fellow in 'Bend it like Beckham', some of these folk were left out of the Cricket team so do not wish to participate or watch our beloved sport anyway. This maybe why there is a distinct lack of Asian lads coming through to the semi pro and Pro game. It certainly isn't racism, given the number of excellent black players in the game.

 

Gravesindian, keep coming, keep posting and do your damnest to persuade your community to get down to Stonebridge Road, either watching or hopefully one day playing.

 

 

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I presume that when you mention 'Guru Nanak' you are referring to the magnificent temple that is being built as we speak – one of the biggest constructed outside of the Indian sub-continent? If that is the case then the temple is being built from the proceeds of some very charitable donations from members of the Indian community. The aim of the temple is to act as a focal point of the of the Indian community and somewhere for Sikhs to practice their religious beliefs.

 

As you can see by the following link Sikhism is very heavily followed in Gravesham, so I’m sure you are not questioning our right to practice it?

 

 

Sikhism in Gravesham

 

 

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...anyway what's that got to do with things anyway Fleet Fanatic?

 

If someone from the Asian community comes forward and asks for help from the club, then surely that can only be a good thing? - Likewise if someone from Gravesham's large eastern European or ever growing Chinese community did the same.

 

Surely in the long run it would be for the good of the club if certain figures of Asian / eastern European / Chinese or West Indian background were represented and assisted in recruiting amongst their individual communities? Maybe the club would do well in trying to attract a liaison team with a member of each community represented?

 

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Well, if this temple is going to be as big as you say, why not put upsome posters of the fleet on a noticeboard. With a large community attending this temple, I'm sure it would be seen and many may become curious enough to attend at stonebridge, seeing as the poster was seen in such a high profile focal point such as a temple etc??

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gravesindian said that he was "having trouble converting some of his counrty men", forgive me for appearing naive ,but are we not all your country men, regardless of the origins of our fore farthers.

 

fleetfanatic said how is Guru Nanak these day, well i have a son who plays regularly for a team and Guru Nanak, are a multi cultural team.

 

lets get paying people into the ground, after all is our aim not to see the fleet go full time, what about offering a couple of free tickets if someone, who ever they are pays for 10 enterances, just an idea

 

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From my expierience Guru Nanak is completley open to anybody , the idea they re not is a problem to them recruiting more players as people seem to think they re not . Maybe it s the same in reverse we as a club will welcome anybody but maybe the impression comes across that it isnt the case?

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Perhaps we could give out loads of free tickets to the refugee's aswell then we can have multicultural freeloading spongers.

I agree that there should be more indians etc coming through our gates, but not for free. I am not racist, in fact i dont like anyone whatever their skin colour or religion getting special treatment.

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el.cartero said:
gravesindian said that he was "having trouble converting some of his country men", forgive me for appearing naive ,but are we not all your country men, regardless of the origins of our fore fathers.

I’m slightly confused by this. Are you trying to say that you too are an Indian regardless of where your parents are born? - an interesting philosophy, unfortunately I’m not sure if it’s that easy though.

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fleetfanatic said how is Guru Nanak these day, well i have a son who plays regularly for a team and Guru Nanak, are a multi cultural team.

I would agree with this to an extent. The Guru’s are a club who do have a few English amongst their teams and non-Asians are welcomed, however surely culturally at least they are first and foremost a Indian Sikh club and were established as a team to represent Gravesham’s Sikh community, so strictly speaking are not really a multi-cultural club. That said though that is not indented in a racist way, it’s just the way things are.

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I have been following this thread with interest.

 

Gravesindian is right.. I personally feel the club should be handing out incentives for new fans to get interested in the Fleet.

You can only get so many down to the ground by fans word of mouth.

If incentives takes the form of handing out some freebies, so be it. It doesn't seem to have done Charlton any harm , in fact they are the role models we should be following.

 

But I would not stop at just the Sikh community, I would personally target all clubs and associations.

There was a similar thread to this one a while back, when it was suggested that maybe the club ( in conjunction with the Reporter ) pick a North Kent Sunday side of the week, with the prize of 15 free tickets for the following home game.

 

What have we got to lose ?

 

Gravesindian - Keep flying the Fleet flag to all your circle of friends, your enthusiasm for the Fleet shines thru' in your posts , keep the faith and keep on turning up.

 

One of the smallest minority groups in the Borough are Fleet fans and we need it to grow.

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Thanks lads for the kind words, I was beginning to wish I hadn’t posted at all after some of the negative feedback.

 

I hope people realise that I’m not here for free tickets to save myself a few quid but only too try an promote the club in a way it hasn’t been as yet. I can understand loyal supporters moaning about free tickets for others when they have been paying for years, but as someone who has the clubs best interests at heart I really couldn’t care less who else gets free tickets when I’m paying as long as some of them come back afterwards and join me for a beer in the bar or a song or two on the terraces.

 

It’s not a race or a cultural issue, I for one certainly wouldn’t begrudge someone from another minority group coming forward to promote the club with an offer of a few free tickets to their community in fact I would commend them for it. Like I said if a black bloke or an Italian had come forward and tried to get a few tickets I wouldn’t start accusing people of racial favouritism.

 

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A suggestion. Although it's several months to the end of the season and even longer to the commencement of next season. But, how about a pre-season friendly, at Stonebridge Road, against Guru Nanak?

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I was actually asking about the old leisure centre rather than the temple.

 

Gravesindian - the only thing that REALLY got my back up was the phrases you used such as 'the club should be trying to accomodate us' which does indicate an expectation of preferential treatment.

 

I wish we could get just 1% of the asian community to our games - we'd be a full-time club on those sort of gates!

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i dont like anyone whatever their skin colour or religion getting special treatment.

So are we giving kids special treatment by letting them getting in for free,i know that's not the same as skin colour or religion but age is also a sub-section of society and really what's the difference,think about it..
Maybe Gravesindian thrased some of his posts wrongly but the idea is a good one,forget the idea that it's favouritism,if it gets us fans...

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If the club chooses to go down this road, then maybe a 2 for the price of 1 may be more feasible.

 

That way the club still gets some additional revenue.

 

Gravesindian has the right idea but it should not be aimed at only the asian community which was why I voiced objections.

 

This topic has been raised over and over again - the club needs to aim for new supporters from all sections of the community - there is a need to convince the majority of locals that there is life outside the premiership (us followers of West Ham are already aware of this!) & if the club could somehow achieve this then the Borough of Gravesham would have their own full-time professional club.

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Wobbly Wayne said:What have we got to lose ?


Wobbly's quite right here - regrettably, and for whatever reason, very few of the Sikh community come to Stonebridge Road to watch the Fleet play, and so a scheme such as free tickets has to be the way forward. We have done this with many local boys' football teams in the past, so there's no reason why we shouldn't attempt it in this instance too. Obviously, dishing out free tickets week after week would be unfairly advantageous to newcomers to the Fleet at the expense of the club's loyal support. But surely such a scheme run once or twice a season can't do any harm?

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in response to Gravesindian, i guessed that you would miss interpret my points, the first being that a large number of your suppossed country men have by virtue of their birth place become my countrymen that is unless you maintain that being born in the uk from asain or other than british parents does not count.

 

on the second point you would do well to attend some of the Guru Nanak youth team games, it could prove enlightening.

 

all the above aside, surely this is about increaseing the gate, subsequently allowing the club to go full time and unless a return on these complimenatry tickets can be assurred the gain will be negative

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unless a return on these complimenatry tickets can be assurred the gain will be negative


Not as negative as that outlook though...
How on earth do you assure a return on what is essentially a marketing device...?
Do we make people swear allegiance to the club on acceptance of a free ticket?

Allowing a handful of freebies does not preclude paying visitors to the ground..... we could dish out 1500 free tickets every week and still the regular paying fans would be able to get in!
If 'freeloaders' come in and only happen to buy a couple of drinks or programmes and never return....what have we lost?
However, if one out of every twenty freebies bothers to come back on more than one occasion, then surely that must be a gain...?!

Anyway, enough of this nonsense, we'll be here all day...where the real money's at is at that bloody burger van....
Queued for twenty-five second-half minutes there on Thursday...if only the club could get a return on all the cash from that little gold mine we'd be able to buy Rivaldo!

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Anyway, enough of this nonsense, we'll be here all day...where the real money's at is at that bloody burger van....
Queued for twenty-five second-half minutes there on Thursday...if only the club could get a return on all the cash from that little gold mine we'd be able to buy Rivaldo!


I would imagine that, in hindsight, the club regret 'franchising' the catering. However, at the time it occured, the club were in the doldrums with no volunteers to run it and the conference seemed but just a dream. So I'm led to believe anyway.....

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If gravesindian spent as much time telling his pals about the fleet as he is cheking this noticeboard and posting requests for free this and free that then maybe we would be looking forward to a respectable gate against dover this wednesday? How about it gravesindian? Get on the phone to your pals, fill up a few cars and we will see you down there on the terraces?

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then maybe we would be looking forward to a respectable gate against dover this wednesday? How about it gravesindian? Get on the phone to your pals, fill up a few cars and we will see you down there on the terraces?


Errrr the match is on Tuesday.

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