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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>I heard a lot of Shots fans turned up at Gravesend New Years Day when the original game was postponed at the last minute, don't know why most games that day were called off first thing or even the night before <hr></blockquote><p>None of that days games would have been called of the night before, because in the Ryman League you can only call matches off On the Day.(might be worth making sure you know what you are talking about before you post)<p>The Gravesend pitch was playable apart from a strip about 18 yards wide at one end of the pitch which the sun was just reaching at the time of the first inspection so the referee decided to wait a further 45 minutes to see if it would thaw out sufficently for the match to go ahead, which unfortunately it didn't so the match was called off at about 1:50.<p>Strangely enough the previous New Year's day the pitch was actually more frozen but the referee allowed the match against Farnborough to go ahead, and was criticised for that decision. You just can't win can you.

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Whats happened, does anybody remember the subject here. I notice the Canvey board has been rather quite lately. Trust thats not my fault. Perhaps the defeat at Norwood (who) has something to do with it. I should say in the long run they achieved a good result there on Tuesday.<p>A few more comments on your own comments<p>MERV....thanks for comming over. Do you attend all our home games?. <p>CROYDONS bad, but how about Fareham, Dunstable or Corinthian. I always wondered just how away teams found Gay Dawn (the home of Corinthian) when they played in the southern league. There may be some still looking.<p>POSTPONMENTS. Any doubt call them off. Whos travelled the furthest to see a game called off at the last minute. Bashley (another tricky place to find) was my longest wasted journey.<p>CANFAN...I like you too. How about some of your compliments that you 'always give', on this site. Remember the Gravesend performance at your place.<p>ANDY..Keep us updated on Aldershot not playing well. The shots still keep winning and still worry me. Far more than Canvey.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by carjam:

<strong>I have just returned from a quick visit too the Canvey Island message board... They can't get a word in. Its filled with posts from other club fans, many from my own beloved 'Fleet'.

Car Jam</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Yes, let's get back to the original thread. The thing is, everybody is talking to us and about us. You all pretend to hate us, but we fill more of your thoughts than any of you like to let on. I wonder why? <p>Is it secret admiration? Possibly, as there are lots of positive comments about CIFC amongst all the dross.<p>Is it jealousy? Not much doubt about that one - most of it directed towards 'Jeff King and his millions' as if no other club in the history of football (at all levels) ever had someone to inject money.<p>Is it because the banter is of exceptional quality? Carjam (a target a mile wide, but harmless), Dr Zbungle (is he really a doctor?), John Crawshaw (just the thought makes me sleepy), CANV (razor sharp, surpise he doesn't cut himself) and dear old Gazza (How I would love to have his brain - brand new, never been used).<p>Keep coming back to our discussion board and keep trying to put us down - it actually makes us more resiliant.<p>Merv CIFC

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You probably have a point there Dave. It's what I like about this forum because you can reach so many fans without having to keep logging onto other websites.<p>However, the previous Canvey board (Below Sea Level)was a popular meeting place for others. The arguments between Shots and Farnborough fans that were carried out on our board was amazing.<p>Joking apart, I think the level of discussion on this board is generally very good and there is so much good hearted 'p i s s taking' between the protagonists but rarely anything that is either offensive or OTT.<p>This is something that I really like about non-league football and why I feel so welcome at almost all the grounds I visit.<p>Merv CIFC

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Carefull Merv, that last post was a direct attack on four individuals.

The thread was me trying to help you chaps hold a meaningfull conversation..thats all.

We await your appologies.<p>Dave<p>How do u do it. I log on once every couple of days and your always around<p>Admin<p>Can we have 'Whos online' back please.<p>Your question Dave.<p>its in your pm

and Andy too<p>CarJam

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by John Crawshaw:

<strong>Croydon, not to be confused with Croydon Athletic, is the worst ground I've been to, anyone going there for the first time should take some binoculars if they want to see the game.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I can tell you never went to Horwich RMI then! Their ground made the Maracana of South London look like Wembley! <p>As an Enfield Town fan, I can assure you that when you get down to the Isthmian's feeders comfort can be a bit sparse in the grounds. Trust me on this!

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by carjam:

<strong>Admin<p>Can we have 'Whos online' back please.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>For you anything....<p>Whos online will be back after the 18th.<p>A new version was released at the end of January, but I have decided to wait until the 18th, when a revised version will come out complete with Polls.<p>This way, I do not need to spend another week, re-doing hacks.<p>The whos online will also be better than the old version.<p>Other new features for the site in general, are just around the corner...<p>Regards,<p>Admin

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dr Zbungle:

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Suggest you stick to the things you are best at - being rude and crass - and leave this 'Mr Friendly Persona' back on the ward where it belongs.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Thanks for the advice Doc. I think it's about time I checked back into your hospital for a bit more thererapy. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to see Ian, Wilf and Vic again. If John Crawshaw is out of Intensive Therapy we could all have a nice game of Scrabble together - very cosy. <p>With regard to Dave's comments about the Shots game at Stonebridge Road I think he makes a fair point. I was there that day and as the sun came round behind the stand it was thawing the frozen section of pitch. Trouble was, it was quite clear that by the time that area was all melted, the day was getting colder and colder and I doubt if the game would have been able to finish. It can't be easy for referees in this situation.<p>Merv CIFC

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Regarding the NYD Aldershot postponment I was not only refering to Ryman League, the Div 2 game at Brighton was just one that was postponed the previous night, so perhaps its you who should get your facts straight! I think you'll find most games that day, including Ryman league, were called off by noon at the latest why was this one left to the last minute? As for the pitch whilst it may have been playable at 3pm its hardly rocket science to know that once the sun goes down it will freeze rapidly, a Conference game at Boston was abandoned at half time that day for that very reason, there was no excuse for last minute postponments the weather had been the same all day.

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And that's surely entirely down to the Ref, not the club. - and as each Ref are human and most have a different type of vision to the rest of us, they're most likely to take different decisions to each other for the same circumstance.<p>Not good for the travelling fans, but that's life as away travelling football fan, full of Lows and and occasional High.<p>

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I would have thought it was down to the ref but I've heard rumours of clubs putting pressure on refs to get games on, is that allowed? I had planned to go to that Aldershot game last NYD, I live about 15 miles from the ground and I didn't even phone the club to see if it was on so sure was I that it wouldn't be once I'd looked outside in the garden and heard the list of other games off, as Carjam said any doubt call it off, OK if there is a sudden heavy downpour an hour before kick off it can't be helped but NYD there was no change in the weather. I've heard rumours the club wanted to get the game on to get the proceeds from a bumper crowd and if its abandoned half way through offer free addmission for the rearranged game which is not much consolation to fans who have traveled miles, if this is true it shows how much the club think of the fans, the Dover v Margate game was another one called off at the last minute no doubt for the same reasons.

Finally I was at the Farnborough game the previous new year and conditions were not that bad, certainly nowhere near as bad as this year!

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Its been my observation formed over tens of seasons where ref inspections become less strict when fixture backlogs have built up towards the tail end of seasons. This is a point i've made on various non league websites and forums and challenged refs to refute my suggestion. Funny thing is, they never respond. So games are off after breakfast inspections before xmas but are on in shin deep mud Easter onwards. Bet we see it again this year. Come on senior refs (not wannabes with ref badges) tell us its not true.<p>[ 09 February 2002: This message was edited by: Iron knob ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by carjam:

<strong>CANFAN...I like you too. How about some of your compliments that you 'always give', on this site. Remember the Gravesend performance at your place.

</strong><hr></blockquote><p>You must have missed that one Carjam! I have already said in a previous thread that Gravesend thoroughly deserved the win at Canvey! <p>It still hurts to say it though <p> <img src="graemlins/cry.gif" border="0" alt="cry" /> <img src="graemlins/cry.gif" border="0" alt="cry" />

Oh and Gazza it wasn't me that abused you on that site and I never, ok, rarely use bad language!<p>[ 09 February 2002: This message was edited by: canfan ]</p>

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Cyclops, going on some Ryman grounds, I dread to think what some of the feeder leagues must be like.<p>Hitchin yesterday was better than most, well at least it has potential. That club needs an injection of cash big time. The crowd was between 4 and 5 hundred. I suspect another 50 or so came though the holes in the fence. Friendly club though and friendly fans. The best programme I have seen in some time and descent burgers. Well done Hitchin. Sadly the directions from the website were poor.<p>Other Points<p>If clubs were starting matches hoping for an abandonment..that would be scandelous. How about the Canvey v Gravesend match. Plenty of money to be made there.<p>The Fleet vs Farnboro should probably not have started. <p>What happened to the ref at Canvey yesterday?.<p>Thanks Admin, nice to know u r there<p>Canfan, all is forgiven and thanks for 'not minding'. And why is your board so quite lately?, where have they all gone?.<p>Car Jam

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No Cyclops I,ve never been to Horwich RMI,aren't they now called Leigh RMI, I'm sure there are worse grounds than Croydon but what really makes it so bad there is its really just an athletic stadium with a football pitch in the middle, I've been to some Ryman feeder league grounds that aren't too bad, I'm sure when we pay our few quid to get in we don't expect the San Siro, all I want is a decent view of the game and a reasonable clubhouse, anything more, like cover when its tipping it down, is a bonus.

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