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SSML - Annual General Meeting (AGM)

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1 hour ago, Rhodes said:

I see that they haven't wasted any time at all on another Forum debating this afternoon's meeting between the FA and Step 5 and 6 leagues, it does seem totally 'bonkers' doesn't it that Step 7 can't start until Step 1 starts:

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/fa-steps-5-6-meeting-plans-for-20-21-revealed.1704/

So Step 7 can't start until Step 1 starts! Bonkers!

Games cannot re-start at Steps 1 to 7 of the NLS without spectators, AND ALL STEPS ARE TIED TOGETHER on a restart date (eg Step 6 cannot start whilst Step 3 is not allowed and vice versa) Football BELOW Step 7 where no admission is taken may start on a different date and is subject to specific “grass-roots” Govt guidance.

:shocked2(2):What a load of crap.

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It is getting more and more interesting on another Forum with all the speculation, conjecture, supposition, tittle tattle, theorising, presumption, hearsay, hunches, second guessing and Chinese whispers, this is a good post:

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/fa-steps-5-6-meeting-plans-for-20-21-revealed.1704/

Step 7 still exists - just from season 20/21 it was to be outside the NLS and under the control of the County FA's rather than the FA as "Regional Feeder Leagues".
Seems the FA can't quite decide if those changes are delayed for a year or happen now. The referee changes removing supply league status have happened for 20/21. However the FA still want to make decisions on how the leagues run as if they are part of the NLS rather than leaving it to the County FAs, 
Have to wait and see if some of the other announcements at the meeting affect step 7 leagues particularly those on funding, where I'd assume the development money will be lost immediately rather than in a couple seasons time which was inevitably going to happen once the FA cut the leagues out from the NLS. I just hope no leagues have already committed to spend the money for next season as they were told previously that it was carrying on.

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This is going to be a devastating body blow to Club's and League's isn't it, FA Cup, FA Trophy and FA Vase prize money will also be reduced next season with the FA Cup prize money for the early rounds halved and back to the paltry levels of 2018 and before, the FA Trophy and FA Vase pot has reduced by around 6%:

I understand that the FA is facing a £300 million shortfall in its income over the next 4 years.
As a result, the National Game budget has been cut by £22 million (38% of its allocation).
There will no longer be any League Development Grant funding for Steps 1 to 7.

Edited by Rhodes

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On ‎19‎/‎06‎/‎2020 at 19:40, Rhodes said:

I see that they haven't wasted any time at all on another Forum debating this afternoon's meeting between the FA and Step 5 and 6 leagues

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/fa-steps-5-6-meeting-plans-for-20-21-revealed.1704/

The Hellenic League have summarised last Thursday's meeting between the FA and Step 5 and 6 leagues and added one or two things, there is also a scenario planning roadmap although it may not be possible for everybody to access that in the format it is in:

https://hellenicleague.co.uk/club-news/fa/2006-20.html

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So are we all on our starting blocks for the SSML Annual General Meeting (AGM) tomorrow morning, how is it going to work out of interest and is there an Agenda that Karen could post on here if she doesn't mind, thanks in advance.

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4 hours ago, Rhodes said:

So are we all on our starting blocks for the SSML Annual General Meeting (AGM) tomorrow morning, how is it going to work out of interest and is there an Agenda that Karen could post on here if she doesn't mind, thanks in advance.

We are all logging on as a zoom meeting at 10.30am on Saturday.

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It's 'D Day' then folks, 'Cometh The Hour Cometh The Man' or doesn't that saying apply here. It will certainly be interesting though at 10.30am with the SSML Annual General Meeting (AGM) in the total hands of technology for, presumably, the first time in it's 23 year history since the amalgamation of the Spartan League and South Midlands League in 1997, I wouldn't have thought the Spartan League held any so called webinars or video conferences between 1907 and 1997 or the South Midlands League between 1922 and 1997. I have been reliably informed that the meeting will be conducted through the Zoom videoconferencing software programme, Zoom is a stand alone desk top based app and popular due to its simple interface and usability, specifically for non-tech minded people and I am sure there are many of those at the 53 SSML Club's taking part in today's AGM. All Club representatives were told some weeks ago to download the technology and have been sent log in details for entering the meeting from 10.20am, I hope it all goes well and there are no glitches as is often the way with technology such as this no matter how good it supposedly is.

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Any news  yet, have all the groundshares been sorted out for the new season or is that deadline 31 July in conjunction with Ground Grading, will Milton Keynes Irish be in Division One or Division Two, are we still going to get League branded footballs and are there any SSML Club's currently on their last legs financially. 

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Worked really well as a Zoom meeting with all 53 member clubs represented.

FA League meeting is on 14th July that will announce the SSML league constitution for 2020/21 season including any lateral movements.

New heat sealed balls to be distributed to premier league clubs only.  League 1 and 2 will have the same balls as last season.

Understandably in front of every other league club, no one disclosed any financial difficulties at their club.

All secretaries will get formal minutes shortly but general view was a well done to everyone at the SSML for a well run and productive AGM and can see Zoom meetings for these type of events being the norm.  Personally great to see my fellow colleagues involved at the other clubs albeit via their houses! 

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Deano5 - Karen won't like you spilling the beans on here but thanks so much for the information, I am glad that it went well.

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1 hour ago, Rhodes said:

Deano5 - Karen won't like you spilling the beans on here but thanks so much for the information, I am glad that it went well.

Not quite sure what I've spilt the beans on other than saying there is an FA meeting on 14th July?

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Deano5 - Was there anything on Reserve Team Football being re-introduced, I wouldn't have thought so in the current climate but possibly for 2021/22:

d. Reserve Team Football – It was agreed to keep under review the possible introduction of some form of Reserve Team structure for Season 2020/2021.  This would, of course, be dependent upon the outcome of the proposed restructure of Step 5/Step 6 football for next Season. 

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6 hours ago, Deano5 said:

Not quite sure what I've spilt the beans on other than saying there is an FA meeting on 14th July?

Yeah you didn't speel any beans 😢😀

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Why would the 2020/21 non league footy season not start on time when you can do this ⬇️ 😡

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And not forgetting all the marches in London and other cities during the last month 🤔

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17 hours ago, Deano5 said:

Not quite sure what I've spilt the beans on other than saying there is an FA meeting on 14th July?

Deano5 - Karen is very prim and proper and a bit of a kill joy, she will frown upon a Club Secretary/Official coming on here straight after an Annual General Meeting (AGM) and letting the cat out of the bag as to what went on and what was discussed, I think she is just a bit afraid of upsetting the SSML hierarchy in any way who can be a little 'stuffy' at times, no offence intended, but she's obviously a wonderful fixture Secretary for us, the best in the business I would say.

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I see that Oxhey Jets 'lifted' the SSML Sportsman Trophy at yesterday's Annual General Meeting, congratulations to them. Eynesbury Rovers unsurprisingly won the award for the best playing surface in the Premier Division, Old Bradwell United Club Secretary Clive Carter deservedly won the Fred Cain trophy and there was another prestigious award for the Abbey Road Club when David Keene won SSML Manager of the season, a huge, albeit deserved, achievement for a Second Division Club.

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I assume that Harpenden Town's fund raising achievement for Rennie Grove Hospice Care was recognised at Saturday SSML AGM, Club Chairman Roman Motyczak and others completed their 926 mile journey recently to all SSML Premier Division grounds raising their target of £1000 and a little bit more:

Billede

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On this thread on another Forum, entitled 'Step 6 promotion applicants from step 7', it states that Step 7 Leagues will be under the jurisdiction of County FA's next season or have I just got the wrong end of the stick, was anything discussed at the AGM on Saturday. Here are some of the posts in question and the first three relate to the SSML, it's all a bit confusing: 

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/step-6-promotion-applicants-from-step-7.243/page-15

1. What would this mean for cross-boundary divisions at Step 7 which are a part of a Step 5-7 league set up? For example, the Spartan South Midlands League which has a Division Two of mainly first team clubs, geographically located in Bucks, Herts and Beds?

2. Good question. Who actually sanctions the Spartan South Midlands League? It looks like their step 5 and 6 divisions will be under a different set of regulations to their former step 7 division. Perhaps they always have been.

3. I think clubs in Div Two like to be a part of the league for its more senior status than a County League in terms of its administration, a natural progression for opportunity to be promoted into Div One, the chance to play quality sides in the Challenge Cup etc.

4. They always were under separate regulations, from next season Step 5/6 will be FA sanctioned and under the FA's plans Step 7 will be a "separate" competition sanctioned by a county FA, possibly on behalf of a group of Counties. 

 

5. You say the constitutions for Step 7 will be confirmed by the Leagues Committee at their meeting on 14 July.
However there will not be a step 7 next season. The clubs will form divisions that are feeders to the National League System and will be controlled by County FAs. So surely the new constitutions should be ratified by the County FAs not the Leagues Committee.

 

6. They will be governed by County FAs rather than the league Committee. It probably has practical benefits administration wise or at least they think it will have. But it is in my opinion more realistic because it is at Step 6 where the ground grading becomes more strict and its the real start of semi pro football. Not seen an actual date when Step 7 ceases but it possibly has already has happened.

 

7. Step 7 has definitely already been abolished. Just waiting for the FA to reveal which leagues have 'Regional Feeder League' status.

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Given I was unwell I did not log into the AGM meeting so do not have any knowledge of what went on

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1 hour ago, Karen Browne said:

Given I was unwell I did not log into the AGM meeting so do not have any knowledge of what went on

Was the AGM recorded?

Asking for a friend. 😂

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1 hour ago, petethegreek said:

Was the AGM recorded?

Asking for a friend. 😂

Not as far as I am aware

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Thanks for posting that Karen and I was sorry to hear you were unwell last Saturday and did not attend the AGM, I hope you are feeling better now. I see that MK Gallacticos were the only Club not to be represented at the meeting, that's a poor show isn't it.

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On ‎19‎/‎06‎/‎2020 at 18:04, Rhodes said:

An interesting summary of this afternoon' meeting between the FA and Step 5 and 6 leagues:

https://www.swpleague.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/SUMMARY-OF-FA-MEETING-TODAY-WITH-STEP-5.pdf

I see that the FA have asked for the views from Step 5 and 6 leagues on what should happen if next season is curtailed early, presumably they mean as was the case this past season due to the Coronavirus, the Northern Football League have already responded:

As part of an FA consultation exercise, a majority of our clubs are in favour of promotion and relegation being decided on a Points Per Game formula if 75% of games have been played. Many would also prefer a season to be declared null and void if fewer games than that were played

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