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57 minutes ago, petethegreek said:

Paul had an excellent game.

On how many occasions did you Officiate with Paul out of interest, I assume you keep records, I remember you did the 2011 Premier Division Cup Final together at London Colney but I think Paul was the Fourth Official that evening when Colney Heath beat Leverstock Green.

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4 hours ago, Rhodes said:

On how many occasions did you Officiate with Paul out of interest, I assume you keep records, I remember you did the 2011 Premier Division Cup Final together at London Colney but I think Paul was the Fourth Official that evening when Colney Heath beat Leverstock Green.

I don't keep records but I have been on many a game with Paul.

I'm not surprised he has reached his current level.

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6 hours ago, petethegreek said:

I'm not surprised he has reached his current level

How does it make you feel out of interest when you see young Officials such as Paul, and Ben Furneaux for example, progress up the Pyramid at the rate of knots leaving you behind or are you happy to just remain at the same level

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9 hours ago, Rhodes said:

How does it make you feel out of interest when you see young Officials such as Paul, and Ben Furneaux for example, progress up the Pyramid at the rate of knots leaving you behind or are you happy to just remain at the same level

I am happy with the level that I officiate at.

It's always good to see young referees fulfill their potential and rapidly move up through the levels. 

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There was a thread on here a few years back entitled 'Referee Promotions' and it was suggested that Referees were getting promoted far too easily and at the drop of a hat, is that still the case. As PetetheGreek said 'it is always good to see young Referees fulfill their potential and rapidly move up through the levels' however perhaps not too rapidly:

 

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3 hours ago, Rhodes said:

There was a thread on here a few years back entitled 'Referee Promotions' and it was suggested that Referees were getting promoted far too easily and at the drop of a hat, is that still the case. As PetetheGreek said 'it is always good to see young Referees fulfill their potential and rapidly move up through the levels' however perhaps not too rapidly:

 

Referees were definitely getting cheap promotions a few years ago especially with the London FA. This has changed as there has been a complete revamp of those running the Promotion Scheme in the Capital.

At Level 4 (Prem Div middles), you definitely have to earn promotion as the Observers are much better. This, like last season, will be interesting as many Referees will not meet the criteria of number of games / observations due to the lockdown to be eligible for promotion.

I will assume that the FA and CFA's will alter the rules to accommodate the circumstances. 

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Who remembers the bad old days in the SSML Reserve Divisions and the Under 25 Development Division of scruffy Club Linesmen and youngsters who you dragged off the street and gave them £15 or £20 to run the line but they barely new the rules, thanks goodness those days are gone:

 

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On 04/01/2021 at 13:29, petethegreek said:

Referees were definitely getting cheap promotions a few years ago especially with the London FA

Yes, that's right. I don't know if you saw this thread on another Forum from a couple of years back consisting of two pages of chat on Referee promotions, Luke Donaldson, Martyn Cannon and Val Anekwe are mentioned, who are with the London FA, and who all got their promotion to Level Three at the time and James Keane, Toby Enstone, David Lunani, Robert ColumbCharles Martland, Tony King, Neil Bailey, William Cannon and Abdul Olol to Level Four. I'm not suggesting they weren't all deserving of course:

FA Promotions | RefChat - The Refereeing Forum

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6 hours ago, Rhodes said:

Yes, that's right. I don't know if you saw this thread on another Forum from a couple of years back consisting of two pages of chat on Referee promotions, Luke Donaldson, Martyn Cannon and Val Anekwe are mentioned, who are with the London FA, and who all got their promotion to Level Three at the time and James Keane, Toby Enstone, David Lunani, Robert ColumbCharles Martland, Tony King, Neil Bailey, William Cannon and Abdul Olol to Level Four. I'm not suggesting they weren't all deserving of course:

FA Promotions | RefChat - The Refereeing Forum

I know most of those Referees and some have gone higher since that was posted.
 

It will be interesting to see this season how promotions at all Levels are worked out where parts of the criteria will not be met due to the lockdown.

 

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On 11/11/2020 at 11:44, petethegreek said:

I am happy with the level that I officiate at

Why didn't you make hay why the sun shone then and make the most of the 'easy' promotion

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10 hours ago, Rhodes said:

Why didn't you make hay why the sun shone then and make the most of the 'easy' promotion

Not easy these days. Promotion Scheme is tougher in London these days.

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An interesting recent video, hosted by the Middlesex FA, with former Premier League Referee Roger East and Middlesex FA Grasroots Match Official of 2020 Andy Kowalski, they give a good insight into Refereeing at the very top level and lower end of the game. Wiltshire FA affiliated Roger East's claim to fame is of course sending the wrong Sunderland player off in the Manchester United v Sunderland fixture in 2014/15, his highest honour was Assistant Referee at the 2004 FA Cup Final between Manchester United and Millwall, played in Cardiff: 

 

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Almost 800 photographs of Referees and Assistant Referees in action and doing their thing, there's nothing worse is there than seeing a scruffy Club Official or player running the line such as in the bad old days of the SSML Reserve League and SSML Under 25 Development League:

The Men in Black

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Is Sian Massey still Officiating at a high level, wasn't she the Official who got Andy Gray and Richard Keys the sack from Sky Sports in 2011, the 'Super Sunday' show has never been the same since they left has it:

 

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38 minutes ago, Rhodes said:

Is Sian Massey still Officiating at a high level, wasn't she the Official who got Andy Gray and Richard Keys the sack from Sky Sports in 2011, the 'Super Sunday' show has never been the same since they left has it:

 

That's a daft question. 

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You may recall that I posted this video some time ago and your comment was, if you recall, 'hurry up with the next video clip, Rhodes', I was quite surprised and the Politically correct Karen wasn't impressed: 

 

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