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Strange I remember saying a lot of this over 3 years ago especially when we acquired the lease on the QE2. I now find myself having sympathy with both sides of the argument. Why, because both points of view have very little merit unless one side or the other pushes for change. That will I am afraid split the club down the middle.

I have always thought that since the club achieved entry into the Ryman Premier league the majority of members, what ever side they were  on, were happy with the default position of the club retaining the status quo. I believe that is where AL came in and to be fair he has achieved this. 

But that said I often think our motto should be based on the constantly repeated mantra of  "we can't really afford it but look where we are".

How do we get out of this I am not sure but one thing I believe we certainly won't progress if we are not ready to give it a try. What is the worst that can happen, demotion.

With an ever ageing membership one has to look towards the future. Consequently very soon we will be required to encourage more younger supporters to join as full members. However, with their present mind set I feel they will not tolerate their team standing still.

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We need cash to allow a manager to put together a squad which is capable of not only achieving promotion but being a force in National South. I understood ETFC's raison d'etre was to recreate the past glories associated with Enfield FC. A club which was arguably the biggest and best in non-league football - and should have reached the Football League. Is that completely unrealistic? Well, it has been said that a man's reach should exceed his grasp.

Being a little more serious than my tongue-in-cheek post earlier, it seems to me that there are only 2 ways in which ETFC can obtain the finances needed to progress:

  1. Punch above our weight in the FA Cup and earn £100k+ from a bumper 3rd Round tie;
  2. Find a wealthy benefactor who is content to be completely hands-off and donate simply for the love of the club.

We have had opportunities to bring in some money in the FA competitions. For the most part we have failed. Notably last season when we crashed out against Chichester City in the FA Cup (- a competition they went on to make over £150k from). In that respect the manager hasn't set the world on fire when looking at possible revenue generation on the pitch.

What we need is a hungry young manager who can work wonders with our resources. We need some real luck in the FA Cup/Trophy, and then an opportunity to build on that in the National League.

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11 hours ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

We need cash to allow a manager to put together a squad which is capable of not only achieving promotion but being a force in National South. I understood ETFC's raison d'etre was to recreate the past glories associated with Enfield FC. A club which was arguably the biggest and best in non-league football - and should have reached the Football League. Is that completely unrealistic? Well, it has been said that a man's reach should exceed his grasp.

Being a little more serious than my tongue-in-cheek post earlier, it seems to me that there are only 2 ways in which ETFC can obtain the finances needed to progress:

  1. Punch above our weight in the FA Cup and earn £100k+ from a bumper 3rd Round tie;
  2. Find a wealthy benefactor who is content to be completely hands-off and donate simply for the love of the club.

We have had opportunities to bring in some money in the FA competitions. For the most part we have failed. Notably last season when we crashed out against Chichester City in the FA Cup (- a competition they went on to make over £150k from). In that respect the manager hasn't set the world on fire when looking at possible revenue generation on the pitch.

What we need is a hungry young manager who can work wonders with our resources. We need some real luck in the FA Cup/Trophy, and then an opportunity to build on that in the National League.

I think the ambition to get back to the top of non-league football may be unrealistic.Not because we couldn't recreate what the old EFC had in terms of attendance figures and income (through building an entertainment venue in the mould of the old Starlight Rooms),BUT because the game has moved on a lot since ETFC were formed.That blueprint of 800-odd fans and revenue through a small entertainment venue would not be enough to dominate the non-league game,as it was 30-40 years ago..Nowadays the top of the non-league game is all about rich chairmen and full time staff on full time wages.

Saying that i still believe we can make it to National league south level with the structure and finances we currently have.

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Success breeds success!!! It seems at last a number of members are now really trying to come to grips with the realities of our position. 

Taking the last two posts I find myself in agreement with the following observations.

1 hour ago, lovely stuff said:

Saying that i still believe we can make it to National league south level with the structure and finances we currently have.

12 hours ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

What we need is a hungry young manager who can work wonders with our resources. We need some real luck in the FA Cup/Trophy, and then an opportunity to build on that in the National League.

To me the most important one is contained in CC comment. It is similar to the one which I wrote at the time when AL was appointed. I believe the  other two rejected candidates were younger, but one highly successful as an assistant manager at a much higher non league level. But probably deemed to have no experience of managing a tight budget. However, AL obviously was. But where has that got us. CC has again answered this question.......

13 hours ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

We have had opportunities to bring in some money in the FA competitions. For the most part we have failed. Notably last season when we crashed out against Chichester City in the FA Cup (- a competition they went on to make over £150k from). In that respect the manager hasn't set the world on fire when looking at possible revenue generation on the pitch.

 

He might also ask what revenue has our cup runs this year achieved??? 

However, all of the above may be problematic if no or little football resumes in the near future because of the virus. But the question as to what are the aspirations of the club will have to faced sometime and a course of action decided upon.

 

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8 hours ago, 4wembleyfinals said:

Success breeds success!!! It seems at last a number of members are now really trying to come to grips with the realities of our position. 

Taking the last two posts I find myself in agreement with the following observations.

To me the most important one is contained in CC comment. It is similar to the one which I wrote at the time when AL was appointed. I believe the  other two rejected candidates were younger, but one highly successful as an assistant manager at a much higher non league level. But probably deemed to have no experience of managing a tight budget. However, AL obviously was. But where has that got us. CC has again answered this question.......

He might also ask what revenue has our cup runs this year achieved??? 

However, all of the above may be problematic if no or little football resumes in the near future because of the virus. But the question as to what are the aspirations of the club will have to faced sometime and a course of action decided upon.

 

we have been told by the fa we can resume  i think its the leagues/chairpersons dont want to continue 

strange as ALL OTHER LEAGUES have resumed

then they leagues will want all games played in 10 days !!!!

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