v Enfield Town

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

for next season i believe scott has to change his system of play no longer is the kick and chase style effective, it seems you have to play the ball out from the back and work your way up the pitch using all of your players defence ,midfield and forwards as a cohesive team,to draw the opposition out and create spaces in behind their back line, also you need players that are not afraid to shoot at goal from outside the penalty box, also any signing coming to slough should have to commit to a contract for at least two years so that if they want to move on then the club can get a decent payback for it's investment . This maybe all pie in the sky wish list but i believe it could be our only way forward, otherwise i'm afraid we will be on a hiding to nothing and heading to mediocrity.

[G Brown]

3 hours ago, harrystfc said:

their agents pulling the strings , and ashley pulling scotts - ironic thundrbirds was made in Slough

Who are you??? A Slough supporter or a troll?

53 minutes ago, HEAVY TRUCKER said:

for next season i believe scott has to change his system of play no longer is the kick and chase style effective, it seems you have to play the ball out from the back and work your way up the pitch using all of your players defence ,midfield and forwards as a cohesive team,to draw the opposition out and create spaces in behind their back line, also you need players that are not afraid to shoot at goal from outside the penalty box, also any signing coming to slough should have to commit to a contract for at least two years so that if they want to move on then the club can get a decent payback for it's investment . This maybe all pie in the sky wish list but i believe it could be our only way forward, otherwise i'm afraid we will be on a hiding to nothing and heading to mediocrity.

With our budget this style of play is not possible, it would take coaching every day, basically a full time club, play this way and we get relegated. 

[Reading Rebel]

10 hours ago, HEAVY TRUCKER said:

for next season i believe scott has to change his system of play no longer is the kick and chase style effective, it seems you have to play the ball out from the back and work your way up the pitch using all of your players defence ,midfield and forwards as a cohesive team,to draw the opposition out and create spaces in behind their back line, also you need players that are not afraid to shoot at goal from outside the penalty box, also any signing coming to slough should have to commit to a contract for at least two years so that if they want to move on then the club can get a decent payback for it's investment . This maybe all pie in the sky wish list but i believe it could be our only way forward, otherwise i'm afraid we will be on a hiding to nothing and heading to mediocrity.

To play back to front the way Worthing, Dorking, Torquay and Ebbsfleet try to play, you have to have the players with the ability and quality to pull it off which of course costs money. Even then when these teams are shut down they invariably get caught out.

I agree that we have to mix up the type of players that we sign.

Of course you have to have the players with pace to burn but also ones with the ability to control, dictate and create from our midfield.

This is probably going to be dictated by our budget but if we want to steer clear of another season of looking over our shoulders imo this is what is needed.

Edited April 19 by Reading Rebel

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

7 hours ago, G Brown said:

Who are you??? A Slough supporter or a troll?

With our budget this style of play is not possible, it would take coaching every day, basically a full time club, play this way and we get relegated. 

if we don't change our style relegation is a definate and i do not appreciate your accusation i am probably one of the most loyal fans but i dont believe in blowing smoke up backsides i say it as i see it

[GlenSTFC]

1 minute ago, HEAVY TRUCKER said:

if we don't change our style relegation is a definate and i do not appreciate your accusation i am probably one of the most loyal fans but i dont believe in blowing smoke up backsides i say it as i see it

That reply was directed to Harry not you!

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

2 hours ago, Reading Rebel said:

To play back to front the way Worthing, Dorking, Torquay and Ebbsfleet try to play, you have to have the players with the ability and quality to pull it off which of course costs money. Even then when these teams are shut down they invariably get caught out.

I agree that we have to mix up the type of players that we sign.

Of course you have to have the players with pace to burn but also ones with the ability to control, dictate and create from our midfield.

This is probably going to be dictated by our budget but if we want to steer clear of another season of looking over our shoulders imo this is what will be needed.

that is what i am saying RR. the board want more through the gate and to get that they are going to have to spend the money to get the resultsas the old adage says you have to spend money to make money

2 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

That reply was directed to Harry not you!

sorry my bad

[GlenSTFC]

17 minutes ago, HEAVY TRUCKER said:

that is what i am saying RR. the board want more through the gate and to get that they are going to have to spend the money to get the resultsas the old adage says you have to spend money to make money

sorry my bad

I’m looking forward to seeing who we manage to retain, who gets released and those who move onto bigger/higher clubs. Also will be interesting to see if we do have a much larger budget for next season or not which can be judged by the calibre of player we sign plus size of squad.

Edited April 19 by GlenSTFC

[Twyford Rebel]

In my view, we were not a million miles away from what we all are hoping for, just 18-24 months ago. We had that year-long unbeaten home record, crowds were up and generally the feel good factor was there at AP.

This season the league performance has disappointed many, but we did have the good cup run.

I personally wasn't convinced by some of this years signings, but I assume Scott got the best available within the budgetary constraints.

We are all a bit deflated after recent performances, but fortunately we get to go again in the NLS next season. Let's put some faith in Scott to uncover some more gems and await an announcement from Ash regarding plans and budget etc.

Without a crystal ball, for all we know, next season might be a cracker. Let's give them a chance!.....

[G Brown]

7 hours ago, HEAVY TRUCKER said:

if we don't change our style relegation is a definate and i do not appreciate your accusation i am probably one of the most loyal fans but i dont believe in blowing smoke up backsides i say it as i see it

Sorry, disagree, the style of play worked when everyone was fit and available. The style of play is not the issue, its player availability and attitude.

[Reading Rebel]

My concern was that our style of play was a bit one dimensional dictated by the players signed.

Lots of players with pace so the order of the day was to get it to the wingers and strikers asap which culminated in a lot of long ball football.

On occasions it would work well and teams couldn't handle the directness and pace of our play but in general imo it would become a bit predictable.

I think we need to have some players who are able to mix it up so we don't become predictable in our style of play.

 

 

[G Brown]

2 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

My concern was that our style of play was a bit one dimensional dictated by the players signed.

Lots of players with pace so the order of the day was to get it to the wingers and strikers asap which culminated in a lot of long ball football.

On occasions it would work well and teams couldn't handle the directness and pace of our play but in general imo it would become a bit predictable.

I think we need to have some players who are able to mix it up so we don't become predictable in our style of play.

 

 

That would involve a vastly increased budget RR, and as far as I’m aware, we will not have this next season. So finishing 16th, or even 20th, would be incredible again.

[Kaiser Gibbs Batman (KGB)]

3 hours ago, G Brown said:

Sorry, disagree, the style of play worked when everyone was fit and available. The style of play is not the issue, its player availability and attitude.

 

3 hours ago, G Brown said:

Sorry, disagree, the style of play worked when everyone was fit and available. The style of play is not the issue, its player availability and attitude.

Back of an envelope stuff but our record when Jacob played was 10W 4D 6L, Henry 6W 4D 4L, and Basil 5W 2D 4L. No one could have anticipated losing Henry for most of the season but the two loan signings appear to have more than proved their worth despite both of them also sustaining serious injuries.   

[Curtis]

26 minutes ago, G Brown said:

That would involve a vastly increased budget RR, and as far as I’m aware, we will not have this next season. So finishing 16th, or even 20th, would be incredible again.

Are you thinking the Club are punching above their weight, and survival at this level will be a continual objective? 
 

Because I can’t see where a large influx of funds is going to come from in the next few seasons.

Increase in attendances - possibly marginally

Transfer fees - nothing major in the short term

Cup run funds - don’t appear to be ring-fenced for the player budget

Owner funds - owners appear to want to develop a Club self sustaining model

Youth development - some 18-19 year olds that look promising but appear to be a few seasons off of upper Step 2 standard

[G Brown]

35 minutes ago, Curtis said:

Are you thinking the Club are punching above their weight, and survival at this level will be a continual objective? 
 

Because I can’t see where a large influx of funds is going to come from in the next few seasons.

Increase in attendances - possibly marginally

Transfer fees - nothing major in the short term

Cup run funds - don’t appear to be ring-fenced for the player budget

Owner funds - owners appear to want to develop a Club self sustaining model

Youth development - some 18-19 year olds that look promising but appear to be a few seasons off of upper Step 2 standard

At this moment in time, the answer is yes to your question. I think this time next year we might see things start to change but who knows.

[Holyport Rebel]

1 hour ago, Curtis said:

Are you thinking the Club are punching above their weight, and survival at this level will be a continual objective? 
 

 

Have to say that 'as things stand',  I definitely think that this is the case.

I don't have a problem with thinking that.

I think it is being realistic.

Looking at the teams that are going to be in this division next season, I find it hard to pick out at the moment 4 'weak' clubs that you would expect to be down in the bottom 4 relegation places.

I would love to think this close season that we will be pushing for a comfortable mid-table position or better next year, but I'm expecting a real battle between us and  many other clubs to stay out of the relegation places. 

I've said before on here, if you could tell me with certainty that we will not be in the relegation places come the end of next season,even if it was a 20th place finish, I would be very, very happy with that.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20 by Holyport Rebel

[Reading Rebel]

1 hour ago, G Brown said:

That would involve a vastly increased budget RR, and as far as I’m aware, we will not have this next season. So finishing 16th, or even 20th, would be incredible again.

I'm not talking about completely changing our fast attacking power play policy of the current season, just one or two quality players who can control, dictate and create from our midfield which will allow us to change and alternate our style of play.

Of course as you say these players don't come cheap and we could well be restricted by our budget but if we want to push on and not be involved in a battle to stay up imo this is what is needed.

Edited April 20 by Reading Rebel

[Reading Rebel]

45 minutes ago, Curtis said:

Are you thinking the Club are punching above their weight, and survival at this level will be a continual objective? 
 

Because I can’t see where a large influx of funds is going to come from in the next few seasons.

Increase in attendances - possibly marginally

Transfer fees - nothing major in the short term

Cup run funds - don’t appear to be ring-fenced for the player budget

Owner funds - owners appear to want to develop a Club self sustaining model

Youth development - some 18-19 year olds that look promising but appear to be a few seasons off of upper Step 2 standard

On our current budget and crowd size I'd say yes we are definitely punching above our weight.

It's been said before until we get a successful side I think our attendances will stagnate at around the 800/900 mark obviously boosted by the bigger clubs coming to AP.

Cup runs should never be included in a clubs budget. Unfortunately this years cup money seems to be being spent largely on the new pitch.

Until our owners off field objectives are achieved, possibly within the next 3/4 years I can't see our budget increasing sufficiently to produce a side capable of challenging for the play-offs as opposed to a bottom half side.

[Reading Rebel]

9 hours ago, Twyford Rebel said:

In my view, we were not a million miles away from what we all are hoping for, just 18-24 months ago. We had that year-long unbeaten home record, crowds were up and generally the feel good factor was there at AP.

This season the league performance has disappointed many, but we did have the good cup run.

I personally wasn't convinced by some of this years signings, but I assume Scott got the best available within the budgetary constraints.

We are all a bit deflated after recent performances, but fortunately we get to go again in the NLS next season. Let's put some faith in Scott to uncover some more gems and await an announcement from Ash regarding plans and budget etc.

Without a crystal ball, for all we know, next season might be a cracker. Let's give them a chance!.....

An announcement from Ash on our plans and budget?

Lets hope you're right and we're not left in the dark.

[G Brown]

1 hour ago, Reading Rebel said:

I'm not talking about completely changing our fast attacking power play policy of the current season, just one or two quality players who can control, dictate and create from our midfield which will allow us to change and alternate our style of play.

Of course as you say these players don't come cheap and we could well be restricted by our budget but if we want to push on and not be involved in a battle to stay up imo this is what is needed.

Henry and Jacob, I’d love to see how they perform together. Henry would free up Jacob to dictate play I think.

[sdelane1357]

I can not believe the club have a 3 g laid knowing it has a 10 year life span and not start saving from the first season with the money in the bank saved for it to be renewed.

Or did the club have a conversation with Mystic Meg asking will we get some big cup games that will bring in big money over the coming years??.🫣🫣