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There's a whole page in the Gravesend Messenger dedicated to the proposed move of Gillingham to Gravesham, Swale or Maidstone. I can't be bothered to type it all so get your 25pence out and read it yourself!

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Scally, you'd have to be naive to trust a bloke with a surname like that.

But in all seriousness who can really have doubts about this guys motives, he wants to get into our area because he wants to jump on the bandwagon,and Gravesham council should be ashamed of themselves for helping him before their own football club.

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I've no doubt that certain a 1st division club chairman will grease the palm of certain Gravesham councillors palms, and a few "brown envelopes" will be exchanged for "favours".

I may be a conspiricy theorist, but the whole bloody lot of them are corrupt!!!!!

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Isnt it about time we let are fellings known to the council, and to the club. It may just be me and i may be wrong, but i get the feeling that the board would like to ground share. But it may just be me!

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"Small though Priestfield may be, it's seldom full. Under these circumstances, the chances of the Football League sanctioning a move are as likely as England winning a penalty shoot-out."

 

Personally, I think we won't have much to worry about.

Most Gillingham fans think Scally's ideas will never happen.

(Mainly due to being in debt & this venture would cost millions.)

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I think you may have a point Blinkjam.

Scally and Aitken to seem to share a lot of similar thoughts. I am personally very uneasy at the close links with the Gills, as I think there are ulterior motives.

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About true FF, i was told that Gills are around 3-4 million in debt, the Gills struggle to fill Priestfield even with some big name teams in Div 1, the majority of Gills fans i know are against the idea, even the Gills Supporter's Chairman was on the radio recently saying it was a bad move and it would cripple the club, it is a shame Temple Marsh fell through it would have been a good site for a football club and i am sure the road network would have been improved i am against the idea of Gills moving out of Medway and i am sure that Medway Council will do all they can to make sure it never happens, and if Gravesham Council are putting Gills before Fleet they should be ashamed of themselves.

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FleetFanatic said:

"Small though Priestfield may be, it's seldom full. Under these circumstances, the chances of the Football League sanctioning a move are as likely as England winning a penalty shoot-out."

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I don't remember the Football League stopping Maidstone, Brighton or Wimbledon from selling their grounds for whatever reason and moving in with other clubs!

 

Gravesham Council MIGHT JUST think that having a Division 1 club in their area is far more upbeat than a Conference side!

It is up to all Fleet supporters to make the council(and the Northfleet board)understand how you feel!

 

 

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Wimbledon did not have a ground so the circumstances around the granting of permission were different.

 

Maidstone? Long before the current Football League criteria were introduced.

 

Brighton? I understand that there were certain specifics around that issue too.

 

I really believe that Gillingham will end up remaining at Priestfield.

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Blinkjim said:
Isnt it about time we let are fellings known to the council, and to the club. It may just be me and i may be wrong, but i get the feeling that the board would like to ground share. But it may just be me!


According to the Reporter today:

"Gravesend & Northfleet already have long term plans to relocate from their stadium at Stonebridge Road, but there are no plans for a groundshare"

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More to the point does anyone know what the Club's short and long term plans are?

 

In the short term i.e. the next 5 years I'd like to think the Club would go full time and improve Stonebridge Road to football League standard. To quote the Chairman:

 

"We must address Gravesend & Northfleet's immediate needs, which revolve around meeting Football League criteria for ground capacity as soon as possible. We can only do that here at Stonebridge Road in the timescale we have"

 

What exactly are the Club hoping to achieve within this timescale?

And how long is this timescale? I may have missed it but I've never seen confirmation of what the Clubs ambitions are in the short to long term future.

 

Is there some Master plan to have League football at Stonebridge Road within the next 5 years? Please tell us . . . laugh.gif

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I believe that the master plan is to win the league this year and have league football at Stonebridge Road next season, and if we can't acheive that then maybe the season after.

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Looking at the football league stadium/lighting requirements:

 

a) Stonebridge Road meets the Qualification Criteria - we just have to

submit an application by the 1st March this coming season if we

find ourselves as wishing to apply for Football League Membership.

 

Despite all this we can't play in the LDV Vans Trophy confused.gif

 

All the players and management have to do is win the league and

G&N is a Football League team - no pressure lads! grin.gif

 

B) The Club must meet the Admission Criteria (5000 capacity/1000

seats) ideally by the 1st March of its first season in FL or face

the loss of all points and relegation to the Conference.

 

c)Membership Criteria must be met within the 3rd season of Football

League Membership e.g. 5000 capacity/2000 seats.

 

Perhaps the "Master Plan" was to win the league this season or the following season (Or was Dave having some fun?) Anyhow, as good a manager as Andy Ford is I can't see any part-time team winning it or coming close when you are up against so many Full-time teams.

 

Playoff's maybe but realistically mid-table again this season?

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Surely we do not just have to win the league we can just win the play offs and didnt Aldershot(only parttime) but come close to going up

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JimGNFC said:
Perhaps the "Master Plan" was to win the league this season or the following season (Or was Dave having some fun?)


I was trying to point out gently that any master plan for league football had to include winning the league (or the playoffs) As you rightly said we appear to meet the criteria for getting into the league, so no major work need be done until we get there.

BTW for the LDV they are using the membership criteria, which is potty!

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Just to add my fourpenneth worth !!

 

I pay my tax (regretfully ) and pay my council tax ( even more regretfully !)

 

So.....although we don't know the full facts yet it seems, if any of my "contributions" go towards assisting Gillingham move to Gravesham, then I may have to "go into print " !

 

Who does the Council Leader think he is ? Tony Blair ??

 

We (me !) want a referendum as to what our (my) money goes towards !

I want it to go towards Gravesend !! If I wanted to contribute to Gillingham, I would live in Medway or become a Gillingham supporter ! ( neither of which is an option !)

 

Call to arms...build the baricades....fight them on the beaches ( or the mud !!)

 

NEVER shall we surrender !

 

...and i am unamimous on this !!

 

Cheers,

 

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Call to arms...build the baricades....fight them on the beaches ( or the mud !!)

 

 

You are not on your own on this one, Kentish men and men of Kent never the twain shall meet. Lets harness the spirit of that most ardent of Men of Kent despisers, Bishop Odo.

Lets not forget the momument in Swanscombe honouring us kentish men , when we earnt the county its motto of Invicta.

Lets do it for Odo, lets do it for the pride of Invicta, lets do it for an independant Fleet.

 

Anyway, the Gills have got more to lose than us on this one. They move to Gravesham and they will get renamed and lose all their identity. Ebbsfleet Gills anyone !!

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Well i live in Medway and contribute to Medway taxes, i choose to live in Medway and have done since 1976, but as i was born in Northfleet i support the first team i ever went to see, back in 1960, which is also the year Gillingham played at Stonebridge Rd due to the closure of Priestfield due to crowd problems i think it was.

I want Gillingham to stay in Medway, they belong to Medway and i believe they will stay, but many Gills fans live in Gravesend and surrounding areas so perhaps some people will be pleased if they do move, whatever happens i doubt if the supporters of both clubs will have any say in it.

The floating fans will always go to successful clubs be it Fleet, Gills or even Charlton, would this debate be going on if Fleet were still a mid table Ryman side, we have picked up over 500 new fans in our climb up the ladder, remember the day at Villa where did the 7000 Fleet fans go to when we next played at home game after that match.

Gills fans are the same they were down to 2000 in the dark days of 1995 but have since climbed back to around 7000-8000, they cannot fill Priestfield at the moment even when the big name div 1 sides come down, i do not think this area can support this venture, to many football fans go to Charlton, Spurs etc or do not even bother to go to Gills or Fleet, hopefully the idea will die and float away for ever or Paul Scally will go back to Supporting Millwall.

It would be interesting to know how many Fleet fans go to other clubs as well, i for one go to Gills whenever possible, but if Fleet are at home they always come first. i do know several Gills fans who come to Fleet when Gills are away.

 

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Mepis said: It would be interesting to know how many Fleet fans go to other clubs as well, i for one go to Gills whenever possible, but if Fleet are at home they always come first. i do know several Gills fans who come to Fleet when Gills are away.

 

 

It would surprise me if many Fleet fans go to Gillingham if the Fleet are away........Charlton seems to be the chosen OTHER club!

 

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Fraid so Hirsty, perhaps the West Ham, Charlton fans will own up soon, whatever with this bit of fun remember the real issue, only Fleet belong in Gravesham.

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