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phew that was close for a while but it looks like the republicans will squeeze home, despite some wailing from the pinko democrats in ohio.. the world can sleep easy once again

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Bush wins in America, Thurrock win in Hornchurch and the Gooners do not win in Europe it will rain at the week-end and Bliar will continue to tell porkies, all present and correct

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Must say I'm pleased at the result.

 

Kerry had absolutely zilch charisma ! .... and as for his policies ! What policies ?? Errrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ????????

 

At least all the militant mat-munchers in the world know exactly where they stand for the next four years !

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Kerry had absolutely zilch charisma

Sorry but this has nothing to do with politics. One of democracys major flaws is that it becomes a popularity contenst, not who is the best politician...must say however i do agree with some of the comments on Kerry. I didn't really know his policys at all..though i'd have loved to have seen that w*nker Bush lose..though i'm sure he could have paid his way too victory...chads anybody?

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Kerry had absolutely zilch charisma

Sorry but this has nothing to do with politics. One of democracys major flaws is that it becomes a popularity contenst, not who is the best politician


I've always said Democracy gets the government it deserves. If the majority vote for someone because they've got nice hair, then that's who will run their country. It's no one's fault except for the voters.

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Agree and that is why the socialist party does such a disservice to this country in its use of Bliar as vote winner with the non-thinking voters, we used to vote on policy

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Yes, when we had a socialist party we used to vote for it on policy.

 

Now, since Thatcher, everyone votes on greed.

 

To be fair, though, you can't accuse the Tories of putting appealing, pleasant or good-looking personalities up, can you????? Unlike the very nice and gorgeous Bliar, Prsecott,Brown.........

 

Fat ginger sweaty, anyone????

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bloody voters today are as easily swayed as will young in a fudge factory.. anyone who votes for blair deserves all they get, fking bunch of incompetent unprincipled pricks.. im voting tory.. cut those taxes and any poncing bleeding heart who dosent like standing on their own two feet can fk off to france or something

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After 8-9 years of this cheating lying sleeze ridden labour party how can you mention St Maggie in the same breath

You may not like Tory values but they are values not opportunistic "we got another 100 targets" bullshit from the worst Prime Minister in history supported by dwarf brain Prescott and the weekly "I got a new tax" Brown

Run up the Union Jack, polish the pound in your pocket and lets get back to being great Britt!s

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Depends whether or not you feel better able to plan how your money is spent rather than have great men such as Byers and Prescott do it for you

At least when socialism finally departs we can thank Prescott for a bus lane on the M4

Can there ever have a bigger waster of public money than the Bliar,Brown Prescott consortium

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Bigger waster of public money then Blair et al how about the privatised rail companies, water companies etc? Yeah that really worked Maggie - we all got shafted. They give the govt money to run the franchises to provide competition to reduce prices yet the prices go up and then the govt subsidises the companies. DOH!

 

I think the whole American "election" is laughable. For "democratic" crusaders to then run an "election" that has a choice of two near identical candidates is terrifying. There were no policies, there were personalities. One had no personality (so he lost) and the other has the personality of the village idiot after twelve pints of lager. And to top it all they still have no idea what votes to count.

 

The world is doomed.

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I worked on and off in the nationalised industries as a contractor and a bigger shambles never existed anywhere

Open purse budget control, double manning and abuse from monday to monday and that was the public employee!S

When private companies came onboard public interest in budget control was made critical issue no 1 by the very same MPs who had ignored cost previously

Generations of under achieved maintenaince and development became the contractors problem

Nationalisation!! place it with the ground nut scheme,The Dome and bus lanes on motorways

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I very much take the point about the nationalised industries, they were far from perfect, but you can't seriously beleive that the privatised utilities are now run efficiently and logically???????

 

The funniest thing is when you try to get a new construction project off the ground. If the project is on existing premises - a new school classroom block for example - the hardest bit is trying to find out who supplies the gas and/or electricity! Then of course they shipper, as they are amusingly called, is not the same firm who owns the pipelines or the cables..... but they might have that work subcontracted to them......

 

I have known building contracts delayed considerably while the paperwork went round and round between all these idiots. They are actually exactly the same guys as before, but with different names over their doors and profits bing creamed off.

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Nationalisation is damn straight what we should be doing and is certainly what a supposed "socialist" government should be doing rather than selling the tube down the shitter as well.

 

There is no ideological difference in modern politics. The Conservatives, Liberals and Labour all stand in the same centre ground and try to pander to the left and right of their own parties and public opinion. No wonder there is so much voter apathy.

 

As for the privatised utilities it is a farce. Twenty different water companies try and sell you the water through some other buggers pipes. Madness.

 

And if you privatise an industry that should be the end of it. Yet they still get government hand-outs. Plain wrong.

 

I will now step off my soapbox.

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A couple of points invis, Many of the major problems lay with how the units were franchised out and the inability therefore to fault find or give a complete service by the groups, secondly the contracts were given to companies who were cobbled together for that franchise, that scenario could not function as to run public sectors that big takes above all knowledge and experience

And yes too many of the "same guys " as before involved I.E they failed as natioalised industry and were certain failures as private enterprise

The transfer from public to private was essential but should have taken several years not a politically expedient couple of years

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