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I don't think 'that' person would have given up so easily..............

 

But, he hasn't appeared on our Forum......and only appears to post here!!

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My two penneth if I may,

 

Local fan is not understanding the point that nws is making, in fact he is highlighting it, however, I don’t think that nws is putting his point across very well

 

Its all about communication, If the fans understand what’s going on and why, then, imo, fans like local would be less likely to moan. I can see, and understand what local is saying, but his information is wrong, therefore local argues his point with what he sees and knows, what else can he do?

 

And before you comeback at me local, I am not talking about the ability, or lack of, of the Chelmsford players.

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I can see, and understand what local is saying, but his information is wrong, therefore local argues his point with what he sees and knows, what else can he do?

 

I appreciate a weakened team for a 'two bob' cup and the point being made. The FA cup is a higher priority in some fans minds although IMO the league is more important. I was at the match, expressed an opinion, which is my right to do, and my right to come on here and make a defence of that.........what information is wrong???..my opinion...thats fair enough.....

 

Anyway..must do some work and I don't want to give the impression this MB is interesting as its getting so many visits....GLORY TO CCFC... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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nws was talking of the bigger picture, but as I said, he didn't make his point clear.

 

Information... well you have no understanding of the contract system. Your understanding of how your and most clubs operate is limited, you seem to have little understanding of what the board or management do for your club. You don’t understand how damaging it cam be to moral and club relations when you air your strongest opinions on a message board.

 

I'm not criticising you or your club, I'm giving my opinion, and my opinion can be summed up in that, I feel there is a lack of good communication within CCFC, and I say this because, I doubt many of the comments I read would be publicly aired if communications were better.

 

But it’s not my club and not my concern, but it is on our message board, and that’s why I put forward my opinion.

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well you have no understanding of the contract system. Your understanding of how your and most clubs operate is limited, you seem to have little understanding of what the board or management do for your club.

 

Thats a very grand statement from a view point that you dont know your subject of ridicule. You don't know me or what I know. How can you come to that conclusion......anyway I'm never goning to win an arguement on an alien MB with antaganists such as yourself, so not to waste anymore time its time to come to a conclusion. I don't agree with you TC and you are wrong.

 

NWS in the words of Rik the Dik ' slag others off on here and expect a retort'. Get a life and post on your own message board if you want to slag your own fans off...... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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Well I know that you compared our release of Dave Collins to the possible releasing of ccfc contracted players.

 

I know that you missed nws's point, which was the bigger picture and not a game, or certain players.

 

I know that you think that your criticism of players and club doesn’t affect moral or upsets people.

 

I know that you think the fans opinion within their respective football clubs doesn’t count.

 

I know that you think board members (hardened businessmen) take no notice of what their fans think or want.

 

I know these things because you have written them in this thread

Your right of course when you say I don’t know you, but, I know you are wrong on all of the above.

 

Thing is local, you have taken my points made previously as a personal attack on you, they weren’t. I just joined in a general discussion that was going on OUR message board and gave my opinion.

 

If the thread is read without associating the posts to individuals, but just as general statements, you may understand the constructive points that were being made.

 

Why do you think that I would ridicule?

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I'm never goning to win an arguement on an alien MB.


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If only Chelmsford fans displayed half as much passion on the terraces as they do behind a computer screen, they'd be alot better off for it!

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Hey Ryan!!

 

Planning permission has just been given for constructing a new road from Canvey to Wivenhoe!!

 

Apparently they are currently going via Chelmsford!!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

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<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" />

Err it wasnt us who couldnt fill a coach to Slough Bustingup.gif

 

We had at least 250 at Rugby and we preserved our revenue stream Victory.gif

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<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" />
Err it wasnt us who couldnt fill a coach to Slough Bustingup.gif

We had at least 250 at Rugby and we preserved our revenue stream Victory.gif


So your club "account" for a cup run for a revenue stream? How can you account for something that can't be quantified or projected? Very dangerous thing to do Dill....

So 250 people, well done...how many people did you know on fist name terms? How many people knew you on first name terms?

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<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" />
Err it wasnt us who couldnt fill a coach to Slough Bustingup.gif

We had at least 250 at Rugby and we preserved our revenue stream Victory.gif


So your club "account" for a cup run for a revenue stream? How can you account for something that can't be quantified or projected? Very dangerous thing to do Dill....

So 250 people, well done...how many people did you know on fist name terms? How many people knew you on first name terms?
<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" /> About 30 , but the it's a lot easier to know 22 people than 250 mock.gif titanic_opt_16.gif

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"So your club "account" for a cup run for a revenue stream? How can you account for something that can't be quantified or projected? Very dangerous thing to do Dill...."

 

Our FD, Adrian Neale simply factored into his cash flow forecast an assumption that we would reach the 4th qualifying round of the FA Cup which, as it transpired, is precisely what has come to pass. So full marks to Adrian for his accurate forecasting in this regard!

 

As we accountants know, the fact that a given variable may be difficult to quantify does not preclude the preparation of forecasts and budgets based upon the most likely scenarios....

 

The important factor in any budget or forecast is realism rather than, say, the adoption of a "worst case scenario" policy such as Adrian being ultra-conservative by assuming an exit from the competition at the first hurdle. i.e. targets must be adequate if they are to be properly used as a yardstick by which to monitor actual performance....

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But then, surely, making a forcast or relying on cash won from a cup run is gambling with company accounts...?

 

Many companies make forcasts based on their products, their admin costs and future plans to expand (which are based on market projections)...few would rely on an "intangable"...which, at the start of a season, a good F A Cup run would be....

 

Dear me, I think on a financial level, Chelmsford can breath a sign of relief...

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There are many unknowns for "companies" when they budget. The value of sterling, the likely level of interest rates, competitor activity and so on but none of these should preclude realistic budget preparation based upon defined assumptions. If a sales director said to his chairman something along of "I'm sorry I haven't prepared a Sales Budget for next year, CJ, but I've no idea abouut the value of sterling, the likely level of interest rates, competitor activity...." I'm sure CJ will quickly be commencing the recruitment process....

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Gazza,

 

All clubs have limited financial budget which needs to be managed and predicted. Billericay are no different from us are they?

 

Do you really and honestly think the directors of CCFC would put all in jeopardy after all they have done to bring us home????.. on a few results.

 

Do you really think that a club which has mainly Conference players can't afford to take them on and budget accordingly?

 

Do you really think CCFC are in financial problems that we are relient on any particular competition or result?

 

The directors are looking to improve MP without any impact on the playing budget whatsoever, regardless of who comes and goes (squad of 20). How many clubs can do that? I bet not Billericay for sure.............as has been stated on here, with improvement, the fan base will increase and more income will be generated...agreed?

 

Only I cannot see where your fan base can be increased when you have a constant attendance regardless of how well you do??.........( we wont mention your away support.Another conversation another time)

 

No more statements about our finances unless you comsume and interogate the actual facts of the business concerned and have access to the spread sheets....1st rule of accountancy and the 2nd is that financial directors are NEVER happy people...it goes with the job!!!!....I'm married to one........

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Locofan. You've answered a lot of questions there that were never asked. If I understand Gazza correctly his point was quite simple. IE.. that, if you've budgeted to reach the 4RQ, then it's a good job you made it! I don't think anyone was suggesting it would be disasterous if you'd failed. Just that it would require some "adjustment" elsewhere to accomodate the resultant reduction in revenue. Or maybe it wouldn't, if there was some unexpected income from, say, selling more Burgers than forecast!

 

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Only I cannot see where your fan base can be increased when you have a constant attendance regardless of how well you do??.........( we wont mention your away support.Another conversation another time)

 

Getting a bit tiresome this. Just look at a map. There's plenty of potential BTFC supporters out there. And your premise regarding constant attendance is just plain wrong.

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Ahhhhhh, facts...strange one that local fan, strange as there are many that would presume to know ours...

 

Now read my post...I was questioning Dill The Dog's errr.....Income stream...And as Peter Foster psoted "Our FD, Adrian Neale simply factored into his cash flow forecast an assumption that we would reach the 4th qualifying round of the FA Cup which, as it transpired, is precisely what has come to pass. So full marks to Adrian for his accurate forecasting in this regard!"...and full marks for predicting it? Buggering 'ell...I would put that down as gambling...

 

Where did I say you had financial problems?

 

Where did I say you were not improving MP...actually, I hope the council approves your plans for the ground as does it not belong to them?

 

Oh and did you stay to the end of the game on Saturday? Felt that the team you "support" was worthy for your support for the full 90 minutes?

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Ahhhhhh, facts...strange one that local fan, strange as there are many that would presume to know ours...

Now read my post...I was questioning Dill The Dog's errr.....Income stream...And as Peter Foster psoted "Our FD, Adrian Neale simply factored into his cash flow forecast an assumption that we would reach the 4th qualifying round of the FA Cup which, as it transpired, is precisely what has come to pass. So full marks to Adrian for his accurate forecasting in this regard!"...and full marks for predicting it? Buggering 'ell...I would put that down as gambling...

Where did I say you had financial problems?

Where did I say you were not improving MP...actually, I hope the council approves your plans for the ground as does it not belong to them?

Oh and did you stay to the end of the game on Saturday? Felt that the team you "support" was worthy for your support for the full 90 minutes?

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/afro.gif" alt="" /> Priceless , Gazza questions our support , The Ricky 22

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