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offline Alan W (GNFC)

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Watching that game last night brought back painful memories of our early season performances last year - all too often the big boot anywhere out of defence which landed with an opponent and led to an immediate further attack from the opposition.

And, just as often happened to us, the team survive until the last couple of minutes, then commit hari-kiri, with 2 poor defensive errors.

Lets hope they turn it round as we did with our season - although in Englands case, it needs to be an immediate turnaround ( mind you, looking at Croatia and Switzerland, if we cant beat them, we wont deserve to stay in the tournament anyway).

offline UP FLEET

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I M O Heskey was at fault for the free kick and is so over rated, should never be there,liverpool must be rubbing their hands at getting all that money for him, he is utter rubbish.( i must not get started or i will start to sound like squawks and his opinions of Sodjey) we should have took de foe, like you said Alan if the points are,nt in the bag against croatia and the swiss then there is no hope, I still feel we was robbed of at least a draw , even a win.

offline carjam

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Agree on the Heskey issue. England should have come out winners though a bit of credit to France a draw would have been probably fair. The end result was a reflection of a lot of dominace from the froggies not Englands backs to the wall defensive second half plan. Draw would have been a fair result. Still plenty to play for yet. England should qualify.

offline smithyman

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Personally, I blame the ref. Had he been up to the standard of the Conference refs he would have definitely sent Silvestre off and with only 10 men France would not have been able to attack as much - Heskey wouldn't have had to track back and the course of history would have been changed.

The penalty should also have been retaken as there was at least four other players in the box by the time Zidane hit the ball. Maybe on the retake he'd have done his Stuart Pearce/Chris Waddell impersonation and ballooned the ball into the crowd.

Refs are there to be blamed when your side loses so why should last night be any different!!

offline Guest__*

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Last night confirmed what we all knew, Heskey's best position is at home watching on the TV like the rest of us, how he is considered better than Defoe is beyond me, as is the the need to substitute Rooney with less than 20 minutes to go, he was on fire and could have played until midnight!!

offline Stu B

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To be fair to Heskey he does provide a different option rather than just pace which owen rooney and vassel all provide,and surely having a bit of variation in our game is a good thing?Heskey can hold the ball up quite well,and i know it was against weaker opposition but thats what he did against Iceland and managed to have a hand in one or two of the goals..just a thought...

offline Slartibartfast

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Its a sobering thought but if "Big Wrong Atkinson" hadn't made his faux pas on air "Scholesy" would have got man of the match!

offline gnfc_guy

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I agree with you Fleet Boy, Hesky does provide something different which is sumtimes good but not always. I think taht last time he played against Iceland I thought he played very well, him and vassel linked up well which is why I wasn't suprised when they came on one after another.


Up da fleet!

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offline meldrew

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We lost the match by losing the midfield.If Scholes had kept to his left sided position and protected Ashley Cole better,Lampard and Gerrard would not had to have played so deep and the ball could have been played through the midfield and on to Rooney and Vassell,instead of sitting back on the edge of our area,defending like the Alamo!We had to conceed eventually,and that was no fault of our defence.Campbell and King were immense at the back,So lets blame the ginger whinger from Utd.,and somebody teach him how to tackle for Christ sake!

offline Student Scum

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UP FLEET said:I M O Heskey was at fault for the free kick and is so over rated, should never be there

No-one can deny that it was Big Emile's lumbering scythe of a challenge that conceded the free-kick - but if anyone's at fault, then it's the whole team.
Whose idea of tactics is sitting back en masse, not pushing up and allowing the French to constantly press for the equaliser?
Yes Heskey conceded the free kick, but why was he called into action at all on the edge of our box?
Why did none of our illustrious midfield attempt a challenge before him 20 yards out from goal?
Don't know why I'm this bothered actually, I don't think we did enough to justify a win or a draw and the French looked miles better in terms of flair, ideas and creativity.

offline Mepis

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Agree with most comments, Paul Scholes was out of position most of the time and you can always take a bet on him being booked, it was correct he came off, as for Rooney his over eagerness could let him down, the French were winding him up also agree with the decision to take him off, Heskey i am not a fan of his, it was a terrible challenge and it cost us dear, but also James was to central in goal, but everybody knew they would equalise and you just knew they would win, why Gerrard did not clear correctly he could have put that anywhere, very disappointed we cannot allow defensive errors like that.

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