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... well then, that's a surprise.

http://news.bbc.co.u...all/4641682.stm

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After laughing for a while last Sunday, I'm now well and truly on Eriksson's side. I was, like most people, quite willing for him to be sacked after our performance against NI, but I now hope he stays until, through and beyond the World Cup. He's been stiched up like a kipper and I don't think there's any manager out there that wouldn't have said the same things as Sven. It just so happens that the press are on a crusade to get him sacked, when in reality, it could have been anyone.

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I think by then he will have run his course anyway and it will only be right that someone else gets a chance to build on the progress England have made recently.

The only worry is who is there that is good enough and actually wants the job when it becomes available. No doubt the press will be getting ready any dirt they have on any potential candidates.

You never know Sven may just leave us as world cup winners <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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I'm praying Sam Allardyce doesn't get it. I hate that whinging prat.

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Who else - MacLaren? Curbishley?

Personally I think MacLaren will get it. The mood is for an English manager (although they have just mentioned Hiddinck on the BBC News) he seems to do a lot of the managerial work on the bench.

Says a lot about the lack of development of managers in England that no-one really springs to mind as a proven, charismatic manager. Oh, for a Cloughy - perhaps we could ask Nige on Saturday?

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I don't know, but Curbishley isn't right for the job. I think our next manager should be somone who has done well in the Champions League, be them English (err, like who?), Scottish (I'd still take Fergie), Portugese (Why not Mourinho?) or someone who hasn't even managed here. As long as they know how we should play and can make us play like that, then I don't really care too much.

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I'm praying Sam Allardyce doesn't get it. I hate that whinging prat.


I don`t like the style of football that Bolton play and Allardyce does get on his high-horse over nothing but i`m impressed at what he`s done for them.

Maybe Steve Tilson is being lined up to replace Sven, he`s been picked as assistant to Peter Taylor for an under 21 league side to play under 21 Italian side.

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I'm not impressed with Allardyce at all. I can't bring myself to be. Same with Warnock at Sheffield Utd. He''s a whinger as well.

I think Southend will be very lucky to keep hold of Tilly if they get promoted this year. If they do however, it's got to be worth having a punt on them to be promoted to the Premiership. He's such a quality manager, it doesn't seem like it'd be a dangerous bet.

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why no mention of stuart pearce?
I would prefer Sven went now.

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why no mention of stuart pearce?
I would prefer Sven went now.


Pearce has said it would be silly to even consider him until he`s manage for a few years.

Whatever you think of Eriksson`s personal life his record in games that matter is not bad and now would be a terrible time to get rid of him.

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Couldn't agree more. Frankly I can't see what it matters what he does in his personal life. I don't really care if he's a junkie.

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i rekcon os a real madrid coup, to try and get him to join them

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I fail to see what sacking (?) Eriksson will achieve. He will get plenty of job offers (Real Madrid almost certainly) and will no doubt have something lined up by the end of the season. The FA made a mistake in extending his contract to 2008 (with a big pay rise), they should have waited until after the World Cup. As discussed above, who do we get to replace him ? I don't think anybody English is experienced enough - Stuart Pearce one day maybe but certainly not yet. I think there will be a couple of top foreign managers interested. Whoever gets the job will ultimately be hounded out by the neanderthal press (however good a manager they are) so maybe we should disband the national team and concentrate on the Greediership as nobody in the media, FA or Premier League seems to want the national team to succeed.

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I think there will be a couple of top foreign managers interested. Whoever gets the job will ultimately be hounded out by the neanderthal press (however good a manager they are) so maybe we should disband the national team and concentrate on the Greediership as nobody in the media, FA or Premier League seems to want the national team to succeed.


Absolutely spot on Exile - totally agree. Why buy a paper that deliberately sets out to [****!!****] our national team over and destabilise everything before a world cup. Bring back the death penalty for treason!!

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With you there.

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The only man for the job is Sir Bobby Robson, he might be into his 70's but he is still very enthusastic about the game and about England, he could work alongside someone like Stuart Pearce and groom him to takeover in 2 years.

There are no other real candidates outthere and if Allardyce takes voer he will become like Graham taylor mark 2.

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Allardyce is not the right man for the job. He is not a master tactician like Sven as he only uses limited tactics to win games. He only gets results against teams by telling his team to play in a way that others dont like which is usually up and at them. In the end, this only works sometimes and against teams like Brazil, Argentina, Germany etc it just wont work. They would sit back, think about it and just beat us in another way.

Allardyce hasn't got the football brain to outsmart the opposition. He only has the balls to get his team riled up for a battling ,approach to their game.

Curbishley is too nice and the players would walk over him easier than they did Sven. He is an alright tactician but i could see a Kevin Keegan happening with him.

Paercey will be the right man in another 5-6 years if he carries on the way he is and is successful.

The only two names i have seen that would definately do the job are Guus Hiddink and Luis Felipe Scolari. Both are great tacticians which is what we need and both have had international sucess and therefore know what is needed at the very top level.

I would worry about Hiddink's ability to stay in a job for more than two years and that question of loyalty makes Scolari my first choice. He is a polite, strong manager who has the honour of being a World Cup winning manager and when asked about whether he would take over as England boss he said he was flattered but would not be so out of order to discuss that while another manager was in charge. That says to me that unlike Sven, he has honesty and integrity and would be the perfect choice to replace Sven in July.

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If the FA have any sense (which I doubt) they will wait until the summer to see who is available. The English names mentioned are reasonable club managers, but which of them have won anything in England or Europe (and I don't think the Worthless Cup or whatever it is called these days counts)? The top managers in our game are foreign, so I guess the question is do we want a top foreign manager (costs more money of course) or do we employ a native and give them two years to see what they can do ? Whoever they employ will ultimately be driven out by the press so does it really matter ? I like the idea of Sir Bobby Robson working alongside somebody, shame the Irish thought of it first !

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we could have roy keane as england manager, if you dont pay well he will kick your head in, or hows about our own kingy!!!

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I don't have much of a problem with Allardyce, admittedly he hasn't won anything much and Bolton aren't thrilling to watch. But he's been around a lot and has plenty of experience, he won't take any cr@p from the so-called superstars and a lot of the stuff that he does behind the scenes is very innovative. He studies the opposition, (and his own side) works out the best way to beat them and then plays to them percentages.

Of the other 'candidates'....Pearce is to young at the mo but one for the future. Robson too old althou it'd be great to give him one last day in the sun, curbishley and mcclaren are one and the same and really dont fill me with inspiration.

I think you've gotta get the Best man for the job so if that means another johnny foreigner then bring it on. No problems with either hiddink or scholari but if I had to choose then I'd be inclined to get on the phone to Martin O'Neill !!

Great motivator, tactically not to bad either and I think the 'part-time' nature of the role would fit in nicely for him at the mo.

Anyway thats me.........O'Neill then Allardyce then Gazza!!!




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