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well done lads good win in crap conditions against an improving city side.. how the ref gave that penalty against wardy is beyond me.. and surely the penalty we got should have had their defender sent off.. their second goal was totally against the run of play we should have been 5-1 up by then.. and what a goal from parms!! greggors volley that went just wide in the first half was pretty tasty as well.. buzz and chenners came forward well and wardy was rock solid.. well done lads! spencer is looking good as well and i notice in the programme notes that last week we had a team out with an average age of 25..mm not bad for a bunch of alledged ex pros eh?!?

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CANV, you don't think you might be just the slightest bit biased in your assessment of today's game do you? I'd say there was a team out there hanging on like no tomorrow for that final whistle to go for the last 7 minutes and it wasn't St. Albans. No question you deserved to win but the match was nowhere near as one-sided as you are making out and you know it.<p>Apart from that, good luck in the Trophy match at Yeovil.

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Yes, good win. I always enjoy beating St. Albans, and this is the first time in a couple of seasons that we haven't beaten them by at least two clear goals!<p>As each player we have individually is class but can't quite bond, something needs to be looked at but bugger me if no-one can guess what it is.<p>Ash - Pulled of a few good saves, but seems to live dangerously. His kicking was less efective yesterday.<p>JK - Does this guy have a niggling injury he seems slower these past couple of weeks?<p>Spencer Knight - Very quick and positioned himself well, although his crosses got caught in the wind.<p>Cheners - Solid game at the back and looked good coming forward. What can you say a class defender.<p>Wardy - My MOM. He cleared chances off the line, and out run the Saints forwards. Very solid.<p>Buzz - He got forward quite a lot too. Brought thr ball with him too. Thought he had the chance to score another 'Port Vale' yesterday.<p>Lee Boylan - Converted the penalty well and chased every chance. Could've got a couple more today if the wind wasn't so strong.<p>Stimmo - Was ok in middle. Put together some nice touches but seemed to lack his flare and skill.<p>Greggors - Another good goal and had should have scored more too. He seems to be able to put the ball about well like an Attacking Midfielder.<p>Millsie - Well a bit like Stimmo today, he held on to the ball to long on a few occasions. But seemed from my angle offside for our 2nd goal.<p>Parms - Cracking goal, he's been waiting for one of them for a while, looks more comfortable after an unsettled patch.<p>Cobby - Looked hungry when he came on could have got a couple if the wind wasn't so hard too.<p>Ashley Nicholls - Good to see he can play anywhere in the middle. Not as effective as he has been but still, didn't do anything wrong.<p>Tilly - Captain's back, changed something in the team's morale when he came on. He should've had one today too. Poor Southend how they missed him! grin.gif" border="0 <p>Well there's my opinion of our team yesterday. Still need to do a bit more digging to find our top pre-Burnley form.<p>Pumpkin.

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Of course you may laugh. <p>I guess watching that mob at St Albans you get lots of laughs. Correction, lots and lots and lots of laughs. Laughing all the way to the bank, no doubt. <p>Oops, another correction. St Albans wouldn't have much to do with banks would they?<p>On a more serious note, St Albans have a lot to offer, in spite of their problems off the pitch. To be 10th in the league, in spite of having only played 24 games, is quite an achievement. If they could have played like they did in the last seven minutes for the other 83, they would be quite formidable. Canvey were really under the cosh for those dying minutes.<p>Pity you have to take all those morons with you in support. Still, I was in the VI form myself once and I guess I was just as bad.<p>Merv CIFC

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Possibly cause someone close to them have been reading our boards, and were worried just incase you did bring flares and have a good piss-up!<p>Pumpkin

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A pal of mine who couldn't get down to the match on Saturday tuned into BBC Radio Essex who announced that there were four van loads of the local constabulary on standby at the match due to intelligence (?) which suggested there might have been trouble due to aggressive messages on the internet. I've heard it all now. <p> <img src="graemlins/dark3.gif" border="0" alt="dark3" />

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What a load of toss you are GHA.

Can I remind you of the notice posted on our MB you directed us to:-

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This coming Saturday 23rd Febuary, St.Albans City play away to FA trophy holders, FA Cup giantkillers and uneducated simpletons Canvey Island.

This is traditionally a very drunken abusive away trip for the firm and would apppreicate any memebers of the team to join. We have no game on Sunday so the old I'm getting my head down early for the big match excuse won't wash.

Highlights of the last trip to Canvey included excessive drink and drug taking.

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It goes on as you know boasting and promoting violence, and then you wonder why a Police presence was necassary!

I together with 99pct of other NL football fans watch NL football because its grass roots football with the added bonus of enjoying a relaxed beer before, during and after the game.

Its the 1pct we need to get rid of and the sooner St. Albans folds in my opinion the better for the rest of the RPL fans.

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The message left by one Colin Zeal (I think his name is). If you can't see that this is a joke, then maybe you should go an have your eyes tested. What most people don't realise is that all the EFM do is joke about violence etc. I have only ever witnessed one occasion when the EFM have been involved in any trouble on the terraces, and on that occassion they were heading in the opposite direction.

Also, maybe the club could do somthing about where the supporters stand in the ground. It probably isn't a good idea to have both sets of fans behind the goal. I know this isn't any excuse if there is trouble, if a minority of fans want to behave in this way nothing is going to stop them, but as we know, fans all over the country will chant songs that are aimed to tanut opposition supporters, and having the fans that it is aimed only a few yards away it is just asking for problems. And anothere idea, have a few more stewards who arn't 2 feet tall, little children don't really give an intimidating sense of authority do they.

Oh and is your ground conference standard, cause if it is then maybe Croydon's is too.

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I fully agree with you that the beauty of non-league football is you can mix fans, even though when you are in the conference you will find it will change. It still doesn't take away the fact decent stewarding is vital.

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I found the 'threats' made by Colin Zeal (sorry, I assume that's his name based on your posting) intimidating and I consider myself to be quite level headed. To say afterwards, 'It was only a joke!' really doesn't stand up. You may know the guy and know his style, I don't (neither do the police, I assume) and so I consider his outpourings to be the sort of thing that may well incite violent behaviour.<p>Moving on, I'm glad we don't segregate fans at Park Lane for for Ryman games. Like others who have posted here, part of the fun of footy at this level is the fact you can have a chat, bit of banter and a few beers with the opponents. However, following the messages that I read (as above) I was not happy to get involved with St ALbans fans - shame really as I guess that 99% of them are just blokes like myself.<p>With regard to the ground grading, the work that is going on will bring it up to Conference standard. You may not like that, but the criteria is clear and the club is able to meet it. It doesn't take into account whether the place is pretty, aesthetic or tasteful but more mundane stuff like height of perimeter fence, height of steps, number of seats, etc., ect. If you still have a problem with that you should direct your complaints to the relevant Conference ground grading committee.

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Have you ever seen a member of EFM? Have you ever heard a report of violence caused by an EFM member? Have you ever seen them play football?<p>As someone remarked...<p>'Hooligans? No. Thespians.'

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Much as it pains me smile.gif" border="0 I have to agree with Merv and Canv on this.<p>I read the original posting, and I certainly couldn't tell if it was a joke or not. Based on that posting, there was no option but to have the police involved just in case.<p>Mind you I'm not as liberal as the Canvey moderator, if that had been posted on the Gravesend Board it would have been consigned to the Cyber Dustbin where it belonged.

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It's an absolute joke. You only have to read the home page of the EFM Website where the original posting came from to realise that it's all tongue-in-cheek. Never heard of parody?<p>Four police vans? I couldn't believe what I was seeing. What a waste of taxpayers money.<p>I was at the previous match at Canvey, and I saw just one scuffle break out - and that was started by one of your mindless stewards who took offence at a chant as innocuous as "you're thick and you know you are".<p>By the way, EFM (yes, they're a Sunday league team too!) have no fixtures planned on either 10th or 17th March, so if your fans fancy a match, leave a message on the EFM website messageboard.<p>Cheers,

Colin Zeal

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Right time for the offical reply:<p>How many time do we have to go on about what EFM are, we are a bunch of drunken pisstakers, always have been, always will be, we have been taking our brand of highly comical songs and excessive drinking and general mayhem behaviour to grounds for a couple of seasons, total number of violent incidents - one, Aldershot at home, set upon by them! For a better view check out the homepage on the EFM website which I will link to.<p>We actually look forward to coming to your ground, it is our favorite away game of the season (although if Bognor come up next year that may change) not out of any kind of respect for Canvey but because it's a long drunken journey with basically a load of supporters who are very easy to wind up and frankley are an embarresement to thier club as they are so quite (Aldershot are very easy to wind up and get a lot of army chants directed at them - but at least they get behind the club)<p>Problems I see, you seem to have a real lack of imagination and wit, we were churning out a stack of stereotypical essex and seaside chants as well as various random stuff (do they know it's xmas) and all we got was "Yeah mate 2-1/3-1" and "Watford !?!?!?!". If you can't beat us join us.

Violence and intimidation - Last game and this game you have a stack of supporters who seem to delight in standing behind our goal, now if we wanted to intimidate you we'd stand behind yours, truct me it's a lot more intimidating for us to have a group of rival supporters standing at our end, them supporters also took great delight in taunting us when you went 2-1 up (as they did at 5-0 last time) without any violent (I mean surely a hardcore hooligan group like ourselves would take offence to such treatment) We also walked freely with your supporters during half time and in the bar without incident (to point out the incident in the trophy game regarding stuff falling off a shelve, we banged the ceiling chanting not realising that your clubhouse was made by IKEA and it prompley sent shidders to the shelf hence the falling down).<p>If we are so bad then why did your OWN PLAYERS clap us at full time as did Jeff King despite all the chants we levelled at him (glad he has a sense of humour) and why did one of your own stewards say we were a good bunch of lads.<p>The police presence was a over-reaction as was the calling of them last time.<p>After the last game our so called firm were socialising freeley with a load of your supporters in the pub across the road (the one with the meat wagon in it this time) again hardly the Chelsea Headhunters.<p>A few tips for next season:

Don't be so arragant, your not a big club, you're a successful club, I have seen plenty of clubs with small attendances win the Ryman (Hayes, Kingstonian) but they increase a lot in the championship season, your crowd was pathetic, you have to ask yourself why so many people wanted Burnley to beat you, call it jelousey and I would of loved to of had your last couple of seasons but you will crash and burn very soon.

Stand at you own end and join in, we are from hertfordshire, we can be sheep ****gers. commuters anything you want, when we sing "candy floss" at you then sing back "we got loads of choc ices". It's not hard and if we can stand there while a group of your supporters stand in our face rammimng the result down our neck and not resort to violence then we certainly won't worry about comical chants at our expence!

Lets go through the aticle on the EFM website:<p>This coming Saturday 23rd Febuary, St.Albans City play away to FA trophy holders, FA Cup giantkillers and uneducated simpletons Canvey Island. PAYING YOU A COMPLIMENT ON YOUR ACHEIVEMNTS AND A CHEEKY LITTLE INSULT, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD WORSE AND CAN'T REALLY BE TOO OFFENDED

This is traditionally a very drunken abusive away trip for the firm and would apppreicate any memebers of the team to join. We have no game on Sunday so the old I'm getting my head down early for the big match excuse won't wash. YOU KNOW IT'S A DRUNKEN ABSUSIVE TRIP, THERE IS NO MENTION OF VOILENCE, JUST ALL THE DRUNKEN STUFF MENTIONED ABOVE

Highlights of the last trip to Canvey included excessive drink and drug taking, Gaffer having some champers for breakfast and trying his best with a essex girl on the bus, Costello getting into various scrapes in the ground, Ben, Alan and co being questioned by the bill after a cone throwing incident. Sniifer trying his hardesr to get on the BBC claiming to be a Canvey fan, Canvey calling the police to eject us all from the ground and refusing to open the bar at full time, seconding a load of Lincoln supporters into EFM, meeting a 6 year old terrorist who silly stringed Jesus and injured Tom, Carl trying to pull another essex girl on the train, being told oarf by the train guard for the firms excess noise. All p*ssing into the thames estuary, carl standing in the middle of the road and stopping traffic. Lots of thick essexmen to take the p*ss out of. We lost 5-1 but didn't care WELL THE ONLY REFENCE TO VIOLENCE HERE IS A SCRAPE, CAUSED BY YOUR SUPPORTERS AT OUR END AND YOUR HEAVY HANDED STEWARDS, THAT I'M SURE WE COVERED LAST TIME. THROWING A CONE IN THE AIR, CHATTING UP SOME GIRLS AND HAVING A LAUGH WITH SOME 6 YEARS OLD'D HARDLY A CRIME, TRYING TO GET ON THE BBC (WITH YOUR FANS STANDING AROUND LAUGING AND JOINING IN) AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ONLY JAYWALKING WAS A CRIME COMMITED AND POSSIBLY URINATING IN A PUBLIC PLACE (PS THE DRUGS WERE PRO PLUS)

All are welcome, we plan to depart City around midday and I'm sure you'll all get calls over the next couple of days. People confirmed Pete, Tom, Alan, Jesus, Ben, Thorns, Carl, Ian. Possibles Gaffer, Barks, Penders, Dave Ash, Dave Kendall, Dave Morley, Wilkes, some more of Ben + co's school mates, Waford Branch. Will be asked the likes of Chadders and Al Hag, Definatly Not - Jimmy for no real reason just that he promised he wouldn't and feels like he can't go back on his word, Costello spending the day with his girlfriend hoping we all have heart attacks!

there is a chance we may film this game for comedy value. Bring your flares and insults and most of all BOOZE!!!!!!!!!! JUST A LOAD OF PEOPLE, I BELIVE SOME CANVEY FANS SAW THE FLARE AGAINST HENDON IT'S HARDLY A WEAPON, THEY WERE ACTUALLY ASKING WHERE TO GET ONE! INSULTS - WELL DO I REALLY NEED TO SAY IT AGAIN AND BOOZE!!!<p>Now I hope you lot sort out your attitude and attendances as you are fast becoming the most hated team in non-leauge

And save your police budget for some real hooligans (maybe a Yeovil replay or Aldershot)<p>as mentioned before we will happiley play you at a friendly football match if you fancy it:

EFM website and leave a message and a contact address on the guestbook, and while your there check out the humour of EFM and enjoy the rest of your season!

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Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the police have to be called out at the last home game against St. Albans when a few of the 'idiots' decided it would be more fun to start trouble inside the ground.<p>Actions like knocking items off shelves in the bar, threatening innocent Canvey fans with physical violence, and generaly giving a bad name to SACFC, tend to attract the Police in greater numbers at a future clash.<p>Discussion boards are read by all sorts of people, I can assure you that the police have people dedicated to reading football forums, at almost every level.<p>If something had of kicked off, and the police had not have been there, and an injury or worse occurred - would we not then be saying 'Why wasn't the police there just in case!'<p>It seems that we cannot win.<p>When you have so called 'supporters' coming onto an opponents board, linking to a page, that contains threats of violence, and boasting at previous acts of criminal behaviour, what do you expect the club / police to do?<p>Really you need to sort out these idiots who give SACFC a bad name, one that your directors would rather distance themselves from.<p>PC999

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What about your stewards then? Why have stewards if you have the police? Why have the police if you have stewards? And why have 3/4 police vans, instead of 1?

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The pity is that once again a majority was spoilt by a few. Me personally I found the 10 or so strong St. Albans FIRM about as intimidating as my little sister. <img src="graemlins/newlaugh.gif" border="0" alt="[newlaugh]" /> There was a rather strong police presence at the match (about as strong as I have ever seen it for just a league match) surely this just goes to show that posting things about violence (intended ore not) on team messaging boards is a pretty damn stupid thing to do.<p>As far as comments go about the lack of stewards, we don’t normally need heavy handed ones, we don’t normally need team segregation, we don’t normally need a large police presence and we don’t normally have messages of intended violence posted on our board.<p>Im pretty sure that I speak for most Canvey fans when I say that we far from discourage load behaviour to cheer on a team; it can only create a better atmosphere to watch an entertaining game of football. The trouble only comes when we have a select few who deliberately act in a way that is stereo typical of a football hooligan because they think it is COOL. The real people in the world realise that getting drunk to the point of incoherence and hassling people on a train station is far from good behaviour and more like a bunch of school kids with their first beer.<p>Have fun, have a drink, but don’t act like such damn twáts!<p>p.s. what the hell was that coat about. Just because the only thing st. Albans has going for it, is some old roman pots there is no need to let yourself go and dress like a 1970’s pimp!

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I must agree with Pumkins assesment of the game. A few of us have also thought that for one reason or another JK seems to be lacking a bit of his pace (I am not fauting his work rate though). Can I also say that personaly I have not seen gregors so up for games as he has for last couple.<p>Tily also looked very hungry and we all know how good he is, Look at our scoring chart and that tells you everything about the class of the man.<p>All in all a great game and another well deserved 3 points all though the last few minutes were as hairy as that St Albams supporters Jacket.

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