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It was Benjamin Franklin who said, "The only certainties in life, are death and taxes. Don't expect either to disappear anytime soon."

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steve irwin was actually one of the greatest conservationists of his time,sure some of his methods were a little bit over the top but he masterminded australia zoo as well as masterminding countless other projects for all different species of creatures ranging from snakes to birds,crocs and leemas,the fact he was seen in this country as some daft aussie took away from the years of work he has done for conservation,do you really think he jumped on a croc for a laugh,course he didn't,it was for the most time to help the croc or their species

RIP Mr irwin

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The croc hunter has been killed by a stingray


i have bitten my tongue but this has to be said!

i dont know who you think you are getting off on the fact that a man has died and leaves behind a wife and two young kids! you are sick!!

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Oh! Come on posters, get real this is a football forum.

 

Ken is not getting off on the fact a man has died and leaves behind family.

 

He is merely indulging in ironic humour, most people do.

 

I am not saying he is right, I am not saying is tasteful but he is not deserving of such condemnation. This type of humour is traditional and recognised by phsychologists as "normal".

 

I bet Steve would have smiled at the irony in it himself.

 

If you do not like it do not respond and he will loose his audience, I will bet at least every office and factory will have at least one sick joke by the morning.

 

I do not know Ken, but from reading his posts can tell you he is not a monster!!

 

"Mr and Mrs Mitchell of Brockley Green, Fairstead Estate, King's Lynn, were watching their favourite TV comedy, The Goodies. During a scene about a new type of self-defence called `Ecky Thump', Mr Mitchell was seized by uncontrolled laughter. After half an hour of unrestrained mirth, he suffered a heart attack and died. His wife, Nessie, wrote to The Goodies thanking them for making her husband's last moments so happy".

 

I would not be surprised if Mrs Irwin does not start a fund to save the stingray!!!

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indeed. nothing like a bit of moral outrage is there? i'll bet these people responded the same to diana or queen mum jokes.

 

i personally don't take pleasure in the man dying so young and leaving his children fatherless, but i'm sure the kids will not be left destitute and will probably as they get older, appreciate their dad would have probably wanted to go whilst winding up some animal or other.

 

esu i appreciate all he has done for conservation, but do you really think that he wouldn't antagonise an animal to make 'great tv'?

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no i don't tree,most of the shows i have seen are him catching crocs so he can tag them,yes he went over the top and sometimes some of the things he did were a bit stupid but i think people should mourn his death rather than slate him because in my view he helped raise publicity about the creatures and the dangers of some of them

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indeed. nothing like a bit of moral outrage is there? i'll bet these people responded the same to diana or queen mum jokes.

i personally don't take pleasure in the man dying so young and leaving his children fatherless, but i'm sure the kids will not be left destitute and will probably as they get older, appreciate their dad would have probably wanted to go whilst winding up some animal or other.

esu i appreciate all he has done for conservation, but do you really think that he wouldn't antagonise an animal to make 'great tv'?


Exactly!! Sick humour, it has been around for centuries and always will be!!

Not keen myself but hey ho!!


Now if you wanna see something really sick!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5CawOpHw7k

Pitsea centre of culture!!!!!

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Never thought the day would come when I found myself agreeing with Hornchurch fans 100% but there you go... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

 

Whilst I fully understand that ironic humour is something that some people enjoy and find amusing, what people like Ken should understand is that a lot of others find it offensive and that is fact.

 

I do not know Ken and I am sure he is not "a monster" but surely there is a time and place for everything and a Canvey fans forum is not the place for this sort of sh*t (something I am surprised has not been picked up by the moderators) and whilst if you wish to make these remarks and send these sort of pictures via e mail to your likeminded mates that is your perogative, please don't inflict this garbage (which has no rellevance to a site such as this whatsoever) onto people who do not find it funny in the least.

 

As far as the music is concerned, let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that eh? You have your views and I have mine and whatever we say to each other is not going to change our views or thoughts on either so it is pointless to continue.

 

I hope you are soon on the mend and able to watch Canvey again Ken and I will not now be making any further comment on any of the matters raised. End of.

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Come on lads. So what if Ken makes some comments like that. Your only having a go because you know that he posted them. If he was anon, you would have probably just moved on and not given it a second thought. He was not saying anything about him but about the circumstance of his death.

 

Ken, i thought your posts were funny and i do not see why everyone has to be offended by this. This is a forum which means that if Ken wants to say something, he can and if people are offended, dont read on. He wasn't offending someone personally like what has happened on here recently. This is a different thing and others have said much worse. Look at another thread. You dont have to read on, you know.

 

Although i feel for his family, i think it was bound to happen. This has happened because he antagonised animals for entertainment. Sometimes an explanation of what they are and what they do is good enough. Why prod them and make them scared or angry? I've never been a fan of what he did. They are saying that Stingrays only attack when threatened. Yes, he helped animals with his other work and he will always be held in high regard for it but the bloke should have known better and now because of his carelessness, he has made his wife a widow and children fatherless. He knew wildlife on the ground and how to avoid danger on land. Antagonising a dangerous creature underwater means that he would not have the same reaction time.

 

I'm sad that he's dead but the facts are that he was very irresponsible and the price he has paid is losing his life. How very sad and tragic for his family that they have to suffer because of it.

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Ok this is going to be my last post on the subject. I am absolutely mesmerised that people have taken offence by anything posted on here. I do not find it funny that a man has died, but I do find it amazingly funny that he died in ironic way. As I found jokes about the death of the Queen Mum, Diana, Ayrton Senna, Rod Hull, John Smith, Tommy Cooper, Freddie Mercury, Richards Whitely, 11th September, 7th July, all 4 grandparents, my dad and myself twice to name but a few. For this I make absolutely no apologies. I have a dark sense of humour and I feel this has only improved my life. Jokes about death have been around forever and they always will be. There is a reason these jokes float around so quickly (I heard the Ayrton Senna jokes before I even knew he was dead), it is because they are funny. For people to suggest that threads are closed down because ‘a few’ people are offended is an absolute disgrace, the internet is one of the few bastions of free speech left in this world and to suggest censorship is terrible. If it isn’t illegal then it is fair game.

 

I am sorry for the people who were offended, not that I offended them, but that they are unable to take joy from the sad things in this world. And for people who feel this post shouldn’t have been on a football forum, why on earth did you open it, der!

 

As far as Mr Irwin goes I have nothing but respect for the conservation work he done. Saving this planet should be near the top of everyone’s agendas, but by entering an animals environment and scaring it,

 

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"It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked. It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike." Benn Cropp (the cameraman in the incident)

 

Is not the way to bring this massive issue to the public. You don’t show people the life of a lion by jumping on its back, you sit about a mile away and film with a massive lense. If he hadn’t interfered with the animal he would be alive today.

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So the point that you are making and I have myself is that as soon as you introduce something, i.e. a group of people as a cameraman and soundmanare needed during filming, and begin interfering with their normal actions then you are no longer actually seeing an animal in its natural habitat and way of life.

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I gave up reading half of that thread!!!

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it was actually quite interesting if not repetitive

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