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Now I KNOW the Politico's are getting worried !

 

All the political columnists in the weekend press used most of their columns to decry UKIP as 'One Big Joke'

 

If they are such a joke, why waste space on saying so ??

 

Hastings in The Snail got my support by saying 'All three major parties will tell you porkies to get the vote, then sell us out to the Euro's, so vote UKIP and make your point clear. If we have to be in Europe, then let it be on OUR terms - Not theirs.'

 

My point of view exactly !!

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The Invisible Man said:
Not really the way to negotiate anything, is it?


Neville Chamberlain tried to negotiate with the Germans in 1939,who are again trying to run Europe!
France rolled over and allowed the Germans to try in 1939!
Funny how people forget these things a few days after D-Day!

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I'm sympathetic to your sentiments, FFUSA, but it's a tad unfair to say that the French "rolled over". I don't want to "go into one", but it's a prevailing view which needs clarification.

 

The German army was the mightiest and toughest military force at that time, and possibly in History. The Allies only defeated them because of sheer weight of military power.

 

Sure, there might have been the possibility of the French holding their lines further South...but this is unlikely as at the time the Allies' industrial military machine had not reached anything like the capacity that was needed to repel the invader.

 

France was also bordered by Italy and Spain...whose governments were sympathetic to the Germans. France faced the possibilty of war on three fronts. So it's hardly surprising that they sought the most favourable terms for an armistace.

 

The French and British were just not prepared for another war of attrition, as the previous war had been - and did not have the tactical imagination of the Germans to avoid it.

 

There were sections of the French establishment which held sympathies towards Hitler - but, as we know, there were "certain people" within the British aristocracy who held similar views. <img src="/images/graemlins/whistling.gif" alt="" />

 

As for the UKIP....every other European country is doing its utmost to have their interests represented in the best terms within the EU, and Britain should be no different.

The fact of the matter is most ordinary people feel as though the Big Three parties in this country are the ones doing the "rolling over".

Representative Democracy implies that all voices - no matter how extreme, wrong, politically correct, whatever - should have a platform.

Any votes cast away from the rich, Big Three parties is healthy for Representative Democracy itself.

 

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Colin, Germany said:
Are you suggesting that UKIP are telling you the truth, Big JR?



[color:"blue"] Colin - I certainly don't believe what the three 'major' parties tell me !

I have nothing against the European people as such, I just don't want them meddling in our laws and telling us what we can or cannot do !

There WAS a wicked rumour going around when I was at school to the effect that we won the 2nd. World War. Wrong, it seems, as the countries we liberated with our allies, and the country we beat are now trying to rule our lives.
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No Way, Jose !!! [color:"black"]

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I know very little about UKIP, but when new parties are formed, they often seem attractive at first, but turn out to be as bad or even worse than the established parties. Up to now, the EU has at least been successful in reducing conflicts within its own borders, but a healthy balance needs to be kept between demanding one's own interests and being ready to compromise on issues which are less important.

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Yes! don't mention the War!

 

I mentioned it once.....but I think I got away with it! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Basil Fawlty did, and look what happened to him !

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how can it be offensive to say that the goose stepping, fatherland loving, humourless, nazi, kraut, sausage munching, boche want to take over europe again.. if it aint them its the garlic crunching, frog eating, napolean loving appeasers..

 

mind you im not a big one for national stereotypes

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Hey Canv !

 

You forgot the spaghetti eating, womanising, 'I Surrender', My tanks got four reverse gears and one forward gear Italians. (Don't mention Monte Casino !)

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Coz Mala said 'Don't mention the War'

 

Interesting poll in the paper (Sexpress ?), yesterday showed that in one area, UKIP were ahead of Lib/Dem !

 

Now, that makes yer fink !

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We have not had a single candidate round our house this time. I live in a Conservative area (it has been for years). May be the others have thought, stuff it the Conservatives will win anyway and the Conservatives think stuff it this is in the bag we won't bother!

 

I though about voting for UKIP for the Euro seat because it might be amusing having then in Europe! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Big J R said:
Hey Canv !

You forgot the spaghetti eating, womanising, 'I Surrender', My tanks got four reverse gears and one forward gear Italians. (Don't mention Monte Casino !)



Big JR lost his shirt in Monte's Casino........thats why? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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GNFC FAN said:
I though about voting for UKIP for the Euro seat because it might be amusing having then in Europe!


Not wishing to confine myself to amusement in choosing which party to vote for, I have now looked much more closely at the programmes of the various parties in Germany and in the UK. My choice in Germany is fairly difficult, because none of the parties here matches my views on all the issues I regard as important. I envy you who are entitled to vote in the UK. I found one such party, and it was not UKIP.

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But surely even if we quit the EU as UKIP wish to do then what happens inside the EU will still have an affect on us,even though we're not in the EU anymore.Surely it would be better to stay in the EU and fight our corner so we get the best from Europe.

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RIGHT ! THAT'S IT !

 

Went up the polling Station !

 

Ballot Paper ? Marvellous choice. Tory, Bliar's lot, or Lib Dem !

 

No UKIP candidate in this area !

 

Praps I won't bother, then.

 

I now know I've 'voted' for the party that will have the most 'votes'

 

The National Apathy Party !

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.......Or to put it another way -

 

I think it should become law that there is a box under the various candiates on the paper, merked.

 

"NONE OF THE ABOVE !".

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To add to my point what are UKIP going to do if they get only one or two seats?They can't get out of the EU as they hope..so are they just not going to turn up,effectivly wasting OUR seat,and meaning that their are less people fighting our cause,or are they going to stay in and contribute...if they contribute i'd like to know what because i haven't seen ANY policies from them other than trying to get out of the EU.

Additionally 60% of our trade is within the EU.Now if we leave the EU surely we're going to lose alot of that trade.They claim we can have trade agreements etc. but they don't need us,and we'd have just turned round to them and say "sorry EU,no thankyou" so they aren't going to want to trade with us...even if we manage to keep 80%(a high amount) of that EU trade we'd only have 88% of our original trade..can you imagine how castastrohic a 12% loss of trade would be?!

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The minority of seat holders in ANY Government/Assembly can do one hellava lota damage, young man !

 

They have a platform to expose many many interesting things.

 

Corruption might just be one of 'em !

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If the UK seperated from the EU, I don't think this will mean we have to stop trading with its member states.

After all, we are an important buyer for all those excellent European imports which we can't live without...like balsamic vinegar! <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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But would they want/need to trade with us,with our high prices(especially with our high exchange rate at the moment),and also the possibility of a tarriff on us selling goods to them by the EU.So although we might buy goods from them,they wouldn't buy from us.

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