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I can't see where Cookie is coming from saying todays result has sealed our fate, it's way too tight down there especially when you consider that the team who finished 4th from bottom in the Ryman is practically garunteed safety. I was hoping for a win today and tbh it was a must win game, but we didn't lose and the great escape is still more then alive.

Yes your'e right Alex of course (on paper) we do still have a chance to escape & it hasn't literally sealed our fate as I remarked earlier but the 2 points lost today i.m.o. are going to prove very very costly indeed.

The points,not point,were essential before the game & in the light of other struggling teams all getting points this has to go down as a big setback.

I usually (not all the time) try to be positive & maybe when we trounce Dartford away on Tuesday I will become so again. But for today I firmly believe we lost an exceeedingly good chance to help ourselves big time.We will look back at these two dropped points & wish we had taken them. As far as I know no 4th bottom team will be saved through the back door this season either.The great escape has now become a lot harder to achieve.

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Had a word with Jay he dropped a fireplace on his foot at work but he said he shuold be ok for Thuesday.

Had a word with Wayne Wilson too & he said he would be back in a week. Incidentally I was impressed today with the new chap,Ty Benjamin. Did good I thought.

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Had a word with Wayne Wilson too & he said he would be back in a week. Incidentally I was impressed today with the new chap,Ty Benjamin. Did good I thought.

 

Agreed Cookie - I thought Ty had a great debut - arguably our best all round player today.

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Just give us a bell next time you need something heavy moved, eh mate!

 

 

Make sure you have done your Risk Assessment first as Jay possibly didnt, you have to look out for banana skins that can lead to slips,trips and falls!

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Had a word with Wayne Wilson too & he said he would be back in a week. Incidentally I was impressed today with the new chap,Ty Benjamin. Did good I thought.

Good news but, if Jay returns to the side where does Wayne fit in?

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Well just like the past 5-6 season's, it's more then likely that 19th place will not be relegated this season and at the moment we're just 2 points off 19th, so it's possible that if we couldn't escape the relegation zones finishing 19th would see us gain a reprieve.

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Well just like the past 5-6 season's, it's more then likely that 19th place will not be relegated this season and at the moment we're just 2 points off 19th, so it's possible that if we couldn't escape the relegation zones finishing 19th would see us gain a reprieve.

So wheres this reprieve for that spot going to stem from then Jake? I take it you have some idea.

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Had a word with Jay he dropped a fireplace on his foot at work but he said he shuold be ok for Thuesday.Cookies post by the way sums it up today.

 

This really grates me.

 

 

That explains the rumour at the ground that he had caught the flue! :grin:

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Well just like the past 5-6 season's, it's more then likely that 19th place will not be relegated this season and at the moment we're just 2 points off 19th, so it's possible that if we couldn't escape the relegation zones finishing 19th would see us gain a reprieve.

So wheres this reprieve for that spot going to stem from then Jake? I take it you have some idea.

 

The team who finishes from 4th from bottom with the most amount of points from the 3 leagues stay up, at the moment we have more points than Worksop and Bedford who both occupy 19th in their respetive leagues, but as it stands we find ourselves in the wrong position. 8 points in 4 games isn't bad for a team who are supposedly down and out, if we carry on like this then i 18th is still well within our means, because lets face it teams above us are going to drop points. For survival i was thinking we need atleast 4 points against Carshalton, we have 1 already. We need to also accept that teams are going to go bust this summer, so if we finish 19th this season we stay up no ifs or buts about it, we just need to get there.

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The team who finishes from 4th from bottom with the most amount of points from the 3 leagues stay up, at the moment we have more points than Worksop and Bedford who both occupy 19th in their respetive leagues, but as it stands we find ourselves in the wrong position. 8 points in 4 games isn't bad for a team who are supposedly down and out, if we carry on like this then i 18th is still well within our means, because lets face it teams above us are going to drop points. For survival i was thinking we need atleast 4 points against Carshalton, we have 1 already. We need to also accept that teams are going to go bust this summer, so if we finish 19th this season we stay up no ifs or buts about it, we just need to get there.

Uumm,Yeah,Right! Thank you Alex for that. I do think maybe you are assuming that what happened in previous years will happen again. However,having said that I'll take your word for it for now & if it does pan out in the way that you mention & it does help a club out then indeed I will be the first to admit "you told me so".

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I'm pretty sure you're mistaken Alex. If no teams go bust, all 4 teams in all 3 leagues will go down, I believe? Think that 'best-placed 4th from bottom team staying up' rule went out the window a while ago. Obviously, in previous seasons, with teams going bust (as appears to be the case again this year), the best-placed 4th from bottom team may well survive.

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Re: the game, echo what most have said. May well have missed a trick in not getting the three points, especially as we had the wind with us in the second half. Simply didn't test the keeper enough in the second half - think the way he 'dealt' with Lacy's inswinging free-kick showed that he truly was awful. Superb goal from Sammy. Other results really didn't go our way, so we may well look back and feel this was two points dropped. Going to be a real tough game Tuesday, but bring 'em on!

 

Interestingly, I believe our last six games have gone as follows: 3-0 loss, 3-0 loss, 2-1 win, 2-1 win, 1-1 draw, 1-1 draw. So, based on that theory, whatever the result is on Tuesday, will be repeated next Saturday......?

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I'm pretty sure you're mistaken Alex. If no teams go bust, all 4 teams in all 3 leagues will go down, I believe? Think that 'best-placed 4th from bottom team staying up' rule went out the window a while ago. Obviously, in previous seasons, with teams going bust (as appears to be the case again this year), the best-placed 4th from bottom team may well survive.

 

ah ok, if this is the case then i was completely unaware of the rule change, it has never been used since we've been in the Ryman mind you. however i don't think the rule comes in when a team goes bust. So i think at the moment the team who are currently 19th in the unibond stay up because of Chester going bust, that is the easiest way to sort it in those situations, otherwise it gets stupidly complicated.

 

Also Cookie i think you may have read my post in the wrong context, i wasn't undermining your knowledge, i was giving my point of view of what i thought the situation was and as DM has pointed out to me, i may be completely wrong.

 

I think we have a better chance of staying up then what we did 2 weeks ago when actually did look like we were down an out, but the team have turned that around and made survival look more promising. I think if we knew after the Waltham game that we were going to pick up 8 points from the next 4 games we would have taken them without any hesitation, because when you look at the fixtures there wasn't really one easy game in there and our best chance of a win was against Carshalton. Remember a couple of weeks ago we all accepted defeat to relegation (including myself), so i'm confused why so many are dissapointed.

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As I read it with Chester and Farsley Celtic folding in higher leagues this means that two teams at level 3 will be saved (based on points at end of season). Only 3 will go down from conference and 2 fron Conference North. Although both are northern teams it is a pyramid so all level 3 leagues are looked at nationally - ryman, southern and unibond - which means that 19th will be good enough. However we don't want to endure that uncertainty throuh the summer awaiting confirmation of the constitution of the leagues next year. Lets aim for 18th. Maidstone are struggling.

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As I read it with Chester and Farsley Celtic folding in higher leagues this means that two teams at level 3 will be saved (based on points at end of season). Only 3 will go down from conference and 2 fron Conference North. Although both are northern teams it is a pyramid so all level 3 leagues are looked at nationally - ryman, southern and unibond - which means that 19th will be good enough. However we don't want to endure that uncertainty throuh the summer awaiting confirmation of the constitution of the leagues next year. Lets aim for 18th. Maidstone are struggling.

 

Also disappointed to see Cray notch up 3 points. As they have played 2 more than Maidstone I feel that they could still be in the mix. 3 from those 6 I feel.

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