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and hows about that bloke in castle point council donating the 30k he nicked to canvey island football trust/ltd

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No Ronin,

but i would at least expect him to have the BALLS to tell his fans exactly what hje has decided to do

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You know he`s gone i know he`s gone what difference does it make if it`s still not offical.

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beacuse that seals it for everyone, everyone will know and put them in the picture, as now people are confused about the part he is playing in all of this

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The way I see it, the only reason it's not official is because his 'resignation' hasn't been confirmed by our Official site, which now has to be updated off of Wayne's own back as he is no longer employed by the Club.

Everyone else knows he's gone, Chelmsford just have to confirm the details next week.

Perhaps the Statement made by his company last night could be put on here?

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One thing i don't understand is that if Jeff is such a Big Man why could he not publically announce he was leaving rather then leaving that duty to poor Chris Gardner!!

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beacuse he hasnt got the balls to stand in front of people and kick sand in their faces, he has to let someone else do it because he is the big man

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Right then, for those of you who were not able to attend, and also for those who did but need clarification, here is a run down of yesterday's events.

Earlier this week, Chris Gardner spoke to Jeff on two occasions and had an open conversation with him. During these meetings, Jeff made it clear that he was completely against the Supporters Trust idea. This is because he believes that the job of running the club can be done by the fans, and he does not want outside groups (aka Supporters Direct) being a part of this.

As much as I do not agree with his judgement (I feel he hasn't taken the time to discover exactly what a Trust can offer us), we still need to take this on board. Jeff's ideal solution would be a "Vice President's Club." This would involve supporters creating standing orders and therefore making a set weekly contribution. After discussing this and gauging opinion, we don't believe that this would create sufficient funds to run the club. Also, I think that this is a passionless method of supplying funds. I would much rather we gain funds by blood, sweat and tears, as this will give us a much tigher "community spirit" that the club needs.

Before last nights meeting we then discussed exactly how we can meet Jeff half way, so that the club is run purely by the fans but we still can raise funds in the same way. After seeking legal and financial advise, it was recommended that we form our own Limited Company. This company will suit both parties, as it means that we are dealing with an entity which Jeff knows and trusts, and was voted for last night as the way to progress within these limitations. This company will have three directors who were elected last night, namely Chris Gardner, John Morris, and Gary Sutton. This is the minimum number of people we must have to start a company, but this can be increased in the future by electing fellow supporters.

The lease for the ground has been signed by Jeff for 15 years at the cost of around £8,500. It costs over £1000 per week to open the gates (including costs like insurance, bills, rates etc.) We will need to secure a sub lease to enter a league, so this a bare minimum we must get if we are to play football next season. We believe that we will need a minimum of 10 years sub lease to be allowed into the leagues were are aiming for (I will go onto this). Figures ranging from between £700 and £1000 have been mentioned as the cost per week to get the sub lease, but nothing official has been agreed. One thing that has been made clear however is that Jeff will not be making a profit out of us.

Also, it was voted and passed that John Batch will be the First Team Manager next season. As the squad will consist mainly of this seasons reserve team, it was felt that he would be the perfect man for the job. John is Canvey through and through, and will be undertaking this role without demanding a fee or wage.

The level of football we will be aiming for Level 8 (Southern League Division East preferably, but the Isthmian League Division 1 is also an option.) However, this is decided by the National Game Board through the FA, so they will indicate where we can play after hearing our intentions. John believes (as do most people) that with his current squad, along with some good signings, we will be able to compete in this league and generate local interest/enthusiasm.

All in all, there will be some FACTS about next season that people will need to accept. Firstly, Jeff King will be our landlord as he owns the lease. Personally, I would much rather us deal with Jeff King directly than through the Council as whatever people may say, he will deal with us under the basis that he wants the Football Club to continue.

Secondly, we are all going to have to push, recruit, advertise, drag in if necessary, the people to attend matches. We believe that attendances of around 300-350 will be sufficient, with potential pricing structures (only suggested at the moment) of £7 Adults, £1 Child.

Thirdly, and most importantly, we must stick together and go forward as a unit. There is no point on dwelling on what has happended, we have initiated "Plan B" and we are going to need everyones support to make this work and ensure our football club remains.

If anyone has any questions that I have not answered in this post, please post them and I will reply to the best of my ability.


I didn`t go to the meeting Glen so thanks for giving us the facts .

The fact that we will not be setting up a trust while upsetting in the way it`s come about does not bother me too much, as i said before this all blew up i`m not totally convinced that they are always a good thing.

What annoys me more is that now people are faced with the facts of our situation they are throwing their toys out of the pram at a time when we need to keep our heads and think things through clearly.

Hopefully reality has now dawned on a few people and they will now get their heads around the fact that we are starting from scratch.

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and hows about that bloke in castle point council donating the 30k he nicked to canvey island football trust/ltd


What's that about? I must have missed that one.

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All but one of the Canvey Tories got ousted last night and replaced by the Canvey Independent Party.

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the BBC says the conservatives won it

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"Tories won every mainland seat in the Castle Point elections last night but they suffered heavy defeats on Canvey.

The Conservatives swept the board in eight mainland seats giving them a firm mandate to carry on with their programme for the borough.

In stark contrast five Conservatives were ousted on Canvey, losing all but one of the six available island seats to the Canvey Independents."


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good or bad? (election)

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absolutely no difference in my opinion, conservative still have control and the independent don’t have enough to have a say about anything.

as with every element of politics nothing changes

although why is the government like an IKEA set of draws?

one screw and the cabinet falls apart

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That guy who at the meeting said "I am a councillor I will help, is he still a councillor.

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Im sorry but what the hell has Jeff got in the way we run Canvey, at the end of the day he has left us in the crapper and sodded off to chelmsford to go and shatter their dreams one day, how we want to run canvey is no concern of his otherwise he will still be running the club and finance it.

When NWS was stolen by [color:"black"] [/color] a pair of our Directors,we as supporters created a new limited co to run the club. There are now about 110 of us that are shareholders of the co. This gave the new club an immediate cash injection (100 people at £100 a head). We elect the Directors to run CCFC. They report to us. This to a certain extent safeguards our future.

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Creating numerous shareholders can cause trouble in future as shares can be bought up by people without the interests of the club at heart.

This is particularly a problem when they form part of a deceased estate and is one of the reason why a trust is the answer.

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That's encouraging to hear, I hope it shows that we are going down tried and trusted roads.

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I'm not reading all those posts - there's far too much information to try and absorb. I just don't understand how Jeff thinks he can control the club and tell us what to do with it, when he's not going to be there next season. How dare he? He can't have it both ways, surely.

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See you at Rush Green sometime next August then....




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