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Do you ever feel like we are moving towards a communist state where the government decide what we do.
I went to Moscow when it was still communist and felt like you was always being watched every where i went.Feels the same in this country,cameras everywhere and it seems they are stopping us doing anything we want.

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Originally Posted By: urchin_mentalist
Do you ever feel like we are moving towards a communist state where the government decide what we do.

we need THIS man amongst us...

[i]McCarthyism was supported by a variety of groups, including the American Legion, Christian fundamentalists and various other anti-communist organizations. One core element of support was a variety of militantly anti-communist women's groups such as the American Public Relations Forum and the Minute Women of the U.S.A.. These organized tens of thousands of housewives into study groups, letter-writing networks, and patriotic clubs that coordinated efforts to identify and eradicate subversion.[36]

Although far-right radicals were the bedrock of support for McCarthyism, they were not alone. A broad "coalition of the aggrieved" found McCarthyism attractive, or at least politically useful. Common themes uniting the coalition were opposition to internationalism, particularly the United Nations; opposition to social welfare provisions, particularly the various programs established by the New Deal; and opposition to efforts to reduce inequalities in the social structure of the United States.[37]

One focus of popular McCarthyism concerned the provision of public health services, particularly vaccination, mental health care services and fluoridation, all of which were deemed by some to be communist plots to poison or brainwash the American people. This viewpoint led to major collisions between McCarthyite radicals and supporters of public health programs, most notably in the case of the Alaska Mental Health Bill controversy of 1956.[38]

Right-wing intellectuals found the decisiveness of McCarthyism refreshing. William F. Buckley, Jr., the founder of the influential conservative political magazine National Review, wrote a defense of McCarthy, McCarthy and his Enemies, in which he asserted that "McCarthyism ... is a movement around which men of good will and stern morality can close ranks."[37]

In addition, as Richard Rovere points out, many ordinary Americans became convinced that there must be "no smoke without fire" and lent their support to McCarthyism. In January 1954, a Gallup poll found that 50% of the American public supported McCarthy, while only 29% had an unfavorable opinion of the senator.

Earl Warren, the Chief Justice of the United States, commented that if the United States Bill of Rights had been put to a vote it probably would have been defeated.[/i]

ergo the european referendum we were promised but never got...beware citizens of these fair isles...the future lies in the past...

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McCarthy's downfall was his threat to drop an atom bomb on China. He was considered unstable after that especially during a very tense period in American/Soviet relations.

The American senate pretty much swept him under the carpet after that.

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There has never been a Communist state, as true communism is almost impossible to attain.

There have been Socialist states, that relied on heavy central control, and tyrannical power crazy leaders to exert their will.

True Communism involves local communities providing for each other, living as equals and working for each other. This is of course against most human's "human nature" to be competitive.

Britain at the moment is a long way from Communism as ever...with privately owned (former public) utilities, a free and critical press and two tier health and education systems.

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Originally Posted By: YELLOW
McCarthy's downfall was his threat to drop an atom bomb on China.


as I said....the future can be gleaned from history..... grin

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You must remember that the Communist ideal is that........

'All Men Are Equal'

In reality, in a Communist state.....

'Some Men Are More Equal Than Others !!'



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The party officials ride around in flash cars, live in nice houses whilst everyone else has to scrape to make a living and most live in extreme poverty.

Happened in Russia, China, Romania etc.

I think Karl Marx and Lenin would be turning in their graves!!!

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The party officials ride around in flash cars, live in nice houses whilst everyone else has to scrape to make a living and most live in extreme poverty.

Happened in Russia, China, Romania etc.

I think Karl Marx and Lenin would be turning in their graves!!!


a communist is a person who wants half of what some other fcker has got.... grin

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