Laz Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 There were a few less than that in the ground on Tuesday. I think it has something to do with the continual defeats. I wonder how many more defaults we need to suffer before the bloke who runs the club does something about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Thick and thin Laz, thick and thin. I know my man has been talking to your man about helping out with players, loans, etc., that sort of thing. We've not got to play The Mighty Saints again this season so if we can help, we will. The club's too big to go back to the Ryman League. I see my 'old' friend has been chipping away again. It was great to see John G put him in his place. One or two at t'Park need to understand that without the aforementioned John G, The Mighty Saints are up that creek where the brown stuff is stored without a paddle. No John G picking up the tab and it'll be back to 1985 all over again. I know it's always popular coating off the Chairman at t'Park, but pulling together is your best shot of escaping the drop. United, you've a chance; divided, you'll go down. Good luck to all my friends at SACFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 im sorry but thats a load of bollox gibson IS the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 A simple one for you if I may, JKiF: if John packs it in, who pays the bills, staff and players? The gate money from the 305 once a fortnight? Much as they all love playing at t'Park, without the money that John gives them, they'll all be gone sharpish! Having someone pumping in £80-£100k a year is never a problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 your misguided defense of gibson whilst slighty touching is so far removed from reality. nice speech though, heard it a million times before. a simple one for you whose to say someone else wont step in equally i wasnt aware anyone was left anyway, seems they have already left 'sharpsh' unless you know something i dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 "whose to say someone else wont step in" - in my experience folk like John Gibson don't grow on trees, JKiF. A bit of advice from someone that's been there and done it: "Sometimes in life you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone". Good luck from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 people who know nish about football are ten a penny Iron, and the day i take advice from you son will be the day i pack it in. toodle pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 OK matie, you do it your way and I'll do it mine. Me? I support my team and they win, you coat off your chairman and you lose. Let's see where we both end up at the end of April, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 so the reason we lose is because i "coat off" my chairman haha you really haven't a clue have you. as for supporting our respectives teams your a mere johnny-come-lately in those stakes son. i know where we'll end up in april but then again i could have told you that last august no [****!!****] off back to your muggy tinpot essex club and i'll get on with enjoying this great monday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 You know you've won when they start swearing at you! Good luck to all my friends at t'Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatboy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Originally Posted By: Iron Webbo A simple one for you if I may, JKiF: if John packs it in, who pays the bills, staff and players? The gate money from the 305 once a fortnight? Much as they all love playing at t'Park, without the money that John gives them, they'll all be gone sharpish! Having someone pumping in £80-£100k a year is never a problem! If he's pumping that money in rather than loaning it to the club why are we 400,000 in debt to his company ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Loans, gifts, it all ends up in the same place Hat: in the player's wages. Just, for a moment, think about where you'd be without John's £400k. I think John's done a good job at SACFC and deserves your support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I think you have the league table upside down, IW. Yes, John puts in a lot of dosh (as did you) but what's the point if the club is plummeting. We'd be better off either looking for a new chairman or starting an AFC St Albans City and working out way up instead of down. I preferred the latter option when you departed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Iron Webbo You know you've won when they start swearing at you! Good luck to all my friends at t'Park. haha dream on sunshine, we were glad to see the back of you. as for gibson getting my support your even more clueles than i thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 "we were glad to see the back of you" - and I was absolutely delighted to go! It's just a shame, for the genuine supporters of the club, that some folk are trying to undermine the club again. Again I say, I think John's done a good job at SACFC and deserves your support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 The undermining is happening from within... A little while back you sacked your manager because you were struggling. You employed someone with a good track record. We have employed a former manager with a proven bad record. In fact he rates as one of the worst managers in our history. Would you say that is "doing a good job"? SACFC can rely and JKIF's support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Webbo Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 As you would expect Laz, I find it difficult to agree. My view is that John's chairmanship of your Club will be seen by those in the future as a success. He completed the CVA that I put in place in late 2001 to secure the company and has (I understand) since put a substantial amount of money into the Club to bring stability and then take it forward. Don't forget that you've had a promotion and enjoyed a year of Conf National football. So many of us are envious of that. Although John may have chosen to put his support for the Club in as loans (as did I) he will, I'm sure, be realistic enough to accept that he is unlikely to receive a return on his investment any time soon (you will remember that I wrote all my loans off and gave my shareholding away to assist John in 2002). I believe John has a desire to bring success to your club. Where would the club be now without John? Would you have been winning 3-1 at Kidderminster last season? - I don't think so! As to the managerial appointments, there have been successes and less so. Your progress made under Lippiatt was excellent and I do sympathise with the lack of patience shown so far this season. Despite your current difficult playing position, I do believe your hopes of avoiding the drop are best served by sticking together. By all means have the post-mortem in May and June, but 'united you stand and divided you'll fall' sums it up for me until April 26! Laz, I really do hope I am able to come to t'Park next season for a League match and hope you can all do the necessary to escape the bottom three. People like John and you deserve it. JKiF on the other hand seems to want (and enjoy) failure and I find it difficult to understand or accept that. Good luck to you all from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 You're always welcome to pop down one Tuesday night when the Iron don't have a game! Last season we won 40 points and were well bottom. Yes, there were some good days but they were far too few. This season we have half that number of points. I believe this season took a down turn when we didn't appoint Dean Austin! He had a proven track record at Farnborough despite difficult circumstances. Who did we employ: some kid who is a mate of Steve Castle. This club seems to be run for Oaklands' and Castle's benefit. Oaklands that is who don't even know the name of the club according to their recent brochure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKiF Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally Posted By: Iron Webbo As you would expect Laz, I find it difficult to agree. My view is that John's chairmanship of your Club will be seen by those in the future as a success. He completed the CVA that I put in place in late 2001 to secure the company and has (I understand) since put a substantial amount of money into the Club to bring stability and then take it forward. Don't forget that you've had a promotion and enjoyed a year of Conf National football. So many of us are envious of that. Although John may have chosen to put his support for the Club in as loans (as did I) he will, I'm sure, be realistic enough to accept that he is unlikely to receive a return on his investment any time soon (you will remember that I wrote all my loans off and gave my shareholding away to assist John in 2002). I believe John has a desire to bring success to your club. Where would the club be now without John? Would you have been winning 3-1 at Kidderminster last season? - I don't think so! As to the managerial appointments, there have been successes and less so. Your progress made under Lippiatt was excellent and I do sympathise with the lack of patience shown so far this season. Despite your current difficult playing position, I do believe your hopes of avoiding the drop are best served by sticking together. By all means have the post-mortem in May and June, but 'united you stand and divided you'll fall' sums it up for me until April 26! Laz, I really do hope I am able to come to t'Park next season for a League match and hope you can all do the necessary to escape the bottom three. People like John and you deserve it. Gibson on the other hand seems to want (and enjoy) failure and I find it difficult to understand or accept that. Good luck to you all from me. you really havent a clue have you lee harding. i thnk your confusing me with gibson, its the fact that I dont want failure that has led me to constantly question his "chairmanship" something that you and he quite clearly have failed to grasp. he has made some truly awful and glaringly obvious mistakes not least his managerial decisions kidderminster eh, not Clapton away? where there was more players than saints fans or any of the countless others over the last 30 odd years. knowing that gibson/castle arent good enough for this football club isn't just my opinion but countless others/directors/sponsors/kids who have seen sense and walked away i'll leave it to more knowledgable others to question my 100% support for this football club. toodle pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatboy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Iron JG did save the club and we had a season that most would never of believed would happen but as I said to Brummie Dave the day it was announced in the council offices that he was going to take over I would rather we folded and started a fresh then than him use the club just to get a building contract. The way the club is being run down with totally inexperienced or very poor managers and a contract for the building of houses on Oaklands looking like it will go to his company I believe that is what he is doing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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