blue pilgrim Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I accept that justice must be seen to be done but does anyone else agree that the overblown trial of his killers is a complete waste of taxpayers money. With the video evidence, surely it could have been closed out inside a day or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missunderstood Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I accept that justice must be seen to be done but does anyone else agree that the overblown trial of his killers is a complete waste of taxpayers money. With the video evidence, surely it could have been closed out inside a day or two? The principle of being innocent until proven guilty is the cornerstone of our justice system, so even scumbags like the two killer are entitled to a proper trial. The cost of the trial though will be dwarfed by the sums needed to keep these two young men in prison for the rest of their lives .IMO when a persons guilt is beyond any doubt whatsoever there is a case for the death penalty to be reintroduced, but only in the most extreme of cases. This case probably falls into that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Would you say that about the serviceman that killed someone who was tried last week??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missunderstood Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Would you say that about the serviceman that killed someone who was tried last week??? I can understand where your coming from, but the answer is most definitely no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue pilgrim Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Would you say that about the serviceman that killed someone who was tried last week??? Don't think you can compare the two cases - one was an insurgent on active service ( not that I am excusing what happened), the other was an unarmed soldier in his own country going to band practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The defence of one of the two accused is ludicrous. He says he can't be guilty of murder, because he is a soldier of Islam, and that he was at war. I don't recall a state of war being decreed. Unfortunately, without the death sentence, we can only hope for a sentence of life without parole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missunderstood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The defence of one of the two accused is ludicrous. He says he can't be guilty of murder, because he is a soldier of Islam, and that he was at war. I don't recall a state of war being decreed. Unfortunately, without the death sentence, we can only hope for a sentence of life without parole. There's been a large number of fatwahs issued by Afghan war lords which has legality under Islam, but would probably not have any authority under the Geneva convention. It now seems taxpayers will have to spend millions, that could have been spent on something worthwhile, keeping these killer in prison, and IMO its a shame they wasn't shot dead by police marksmen, which would have been wholly justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue pilgrim Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 There's been a large number of fatwahs issued by Afghan war lords which has legality under Islam, but would probably not have any authority under the Geneva convention. It now seems taxpayers will have to spend millions, that could have been spent on something worthwhile, keeping these killer in prison, and IMO its a shame they wasn't shot dead by police marksmen, which would have been wholly justified. Yes, and had the insurgent been taken out at distance, that killing would have been wholly justified and would have saved the taxpayer a shedload. The sentence passed on our man will act as a deterrent hopefully, and will also ensure that all insurgents are now "killed in action" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yes, and had the insurgent been taken out at distance, that killing would have been wholly justified and would have saved the taxpayer a shedload. The sentence passed on our man will act as a deterrent hopefully, and will also ensure that all insurgents are now "killed in action" As were many Argentian soldiers towards the very end of the Falklands conflict. I'll say no more on the subject other than a drinking buddy of mine finished his army career in the Falklands after 21 years as a warrant officer in a very well known regiment. Think Colonel 'H'. Scores had to be settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I see that Lee Rigby's evil killers got what they deserved this week and will thankfully rot in prison: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568317/Justice-Lee-Rigby-Soldiers-family-arrive-court-wearing-matching-t-shirts-act-solidarity-ahead-sentencing-two-Muslim-converts-murdered-him.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We agree for once, Rhodesey. Will they appeal against the sentence, I ask ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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