Keep the banter going

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1 hour ago, Savagebee said:

Any chance of a Division One one of the above 😀

Savagebee - I think Joes just knocked that up on his computer and to highlight 'Webby's' great achievement in what wasn't even a full season, he would have added another fifteen goals at least. Craig Hammond's 61 League goals in just 26 appearances for Royston Town in Division One in 2008/09 won't be beaten and I think he added another 25 in all Cup competitions as Royston Town won the Division One Cup and SSML Senior Floodlit Cup, reached the Final of the Herts FA Charity Shield and Semi Final of the East Anglian Cup. Craig left Garden Walk at the end of that season for then Conference Club Histon so, to answer Winslow Boy's question, didn't play for Royston Town in the SSML Premier Division but somehow they got promoted to Step 4 without him in 2011/12 which showed what an amazing Manager Paul Attfield was.

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15 hours ago, Rhodes said:

Savagebee - I think Joes just knocked that up on his computer and to highlight 'Webby's' great achievement in what wasn't even a full season, he would have added another fifteen goals at least. Craig Hammond's 61 League goals in just 26 appearances for Royston Town in Division One in 2008/09 won't be beaten and I think he added another 25 in all Cup competitions as Royston Town won the Division One Cup and SSML Senior Floodlit Cup, reached the Final of the Herts FA Charity Shield and Semi Final of the East Anglian Cup. Craig left Garden Walk at the end of that season for then Conference Club Histon so, to answer Winslow Boy's question, didn't play for Royston Town in the SSML Premier Division but somehow they got promoted to Step 4 without him in 2011/12 which showed what an amazing Manager Paul Attfield was.

Oh yes of course he went to Histon, they hit the ceiling and fell spectacularly didn’t they?

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Winslow Boy - Yes, that's right, Craig did great at Histon considering their financial problems and the huge jump he made from Step Six to the Conference in one fell swoop, it says it all about him. He just had the one 2009/10 season at Bridge Road before moving to Southern League Premier Division Cambridge City and the rest is history with the Club finishing fourth in 2010/11, fifth in 2011/12 and eighth in 2012/13, losing twice in a promotion semi final playoff. You will no doubt recall that midway through the 2010/11 campaign, with Craig already on 22 goals at Milton Road, he went to Loftus Road for trials and starred in QPR Reserves 2-2 draw with Charlton at their training ground at Harlington. Glenn Hoddle was at the match and even pulled Craig to one side afterwards to compliment him however, for some strange reason, he wasn't offered terms by Neil Warnock and returned to Cambridge City where he continued his phenomenal goal scoring exploits for them.

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He was a very good player and he did well higher up, seemed to jack it all early for some reason. I wonder if the reason he never made the final step was a physical one, he wasn’t a physical specimen in fairness was he? 

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/histon/8599065.stm

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Winslow Boy - Craig's time at Histon was talked about on another thread if you remember after you mentioned that you had played against the great man twice, Craig was initially brought to Bridge Road by then Manager Steve Fallon who unfortunately left the Club in January 2010 after four promotions following a falling out with then Chairman Tony Roach. Craig didn't get along with Fallon's successor Alan Lewer, who had only joined Histon from Grays Athletic in October 2009, Lewer was 'a maverick' and a total disgrace, it's hardly surprising he left the Club at the end of that season albeit after he delighted in cancelling Craig's contract. Anyway, as I said, Craig went on to join Cambridge City and the rest is history, as far as I'm aware he stopped playing early for family and work reasons but, as you say, he could and should have gone all the way, it's still a mystery why Neil Warnock didn't stand over him whilst he signed on the dotted line:

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4 hours ago, Rhodes said:

Winslow Boy - Craig's time at Histon was talked about on another thread if you remember after you mentioned that you had played against the great man twice, Craig was initially brought to Bridge Road by then Manager Steve Fallon who unfortunately left the Club in January 2010 after four promotions following a falling out with then Chairman Tony Roach. Craig didn't get along with Fallon's successor Alan Lewer, who had only joined Histon from Grays Athletic in October 2009, Lewer was 'a maverick' and a total disgrace, it's hardly surprising he left the Club at the end of that season albeit after he delighted in cancelling Craig's contract. Anyway, as I said, Craig went on to join Cambridge City and the rest is history, as far as I'm aware he stopped playing early for family and work reasons but, as you say, he could and should have gone all the way, it's still a mystery why Neil Warnock didn't stand over him whilst he signed on the dotted line:

Was talk of him playing last season or season before but he rubbished all those rumours apparently. A real shame. His level was step 2/3 and doing well at that level in my opinion. Certainly the best centre forward I saw in Spartan. 

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I see this was a really popular thread that Daily Dose created back in May 2017, I wonder why it got no replies. You have to say that the most successful SSML Manager(s) were Steve Newing and Del Deanus at Edgware Town for lifting the domestic treble in 2006/07, no other team has ever achieved that. They also reached the Fourth Round of the FA Vase that season and were unlucky to lose 1-0 at The White Lion Ground to Sussex County League Whitehawk in a replay after a 1-1 draw in Brighton, GRS67 was at both ties as well as most, if not all, of the games that season:

 

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That’s a great spot, I remember creating and wondering why no one commented at the time 😂. And at the time, In the words of the Wealdstone Raider, “you ain’t got no fans’, springs to mind.

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On 20/11/2020 at 09:36, Daily Dose said:

That’s a great spot, I remember creating and wondering why no one commented at the time 😂. And at the time, In the words of the Wealdstone Raider, “you ain’t got no fans’, springs to mind.

Mick Foster would be up there I would guess. It’s a hard one because what date range are we talking about? So many managers don’t stay in anyone place too long etc...

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On 16/11/2020 at 06:55, Joes said:

Updated 🤣

Made it on to the Oxhey Jets FC Twitter page 😀

https://mobile.twitter.com/1972Jets/status/1328292126287941632

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On 19/11/2020 at 23:22, Rhodes said:

You have to say that the most successful SSML Manager(s) were Steve Newing and Del Deanus at Edgware Town for lifting the domestic treble in 2006/07, no other team has ever achieved that

Obviously the so called 'Great One', Clement Temile, has to be right up there, not so much for his achievements but for the profile and huge prestige he brought to the SSML creating Worldwide publicity for the League. A former Nigeria International who was nicknamed 'the Cheetah' in his homeland for his incredible speed, some of you will no doubt recall that he was in line for the Nigeria National team Coach job following 1974 World Cup winner Berti Vogts departure in 2008 but just failed to get it, this was whilst he was with Kentish Town and took them to the Division One Championship that 2007/2008 season with Lee Scott, who idolised Clement, the Division's top goalscorer. All of that is just the tip of the iceberg as Clement is Father to former Israel International Toto Tamuz who settled in Israel from his native Nigeria and became an Israeli citizen , Israel came to Wembley in September 2007 to play England in a European Championship Qualifier and Clement was all over the National papers like a rash for weeks with the SSML always getting a mention in articles. Like I said, Clement didn't lift the domestic treble like Steve Newing and Del Deanus did at Edgware Town, or go unbeaten throughout a League season like duo Darren Croft and Paul Reeves at Dunstable Town in 2012/13, however in terms of the prestige and he brought with him then Clement has to be by far the best. This is the so called 'Great One' receiving an honourary award on the hallowed Cotlandswick turf on Saturday 3 May 2008 before the Division One Cup Final between Ampthill Town and Haringey Borough:

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6 hours ago, Savagebee said:

Made it on to the Oxhey Jets FC Twitter page 😀

https://mobile.twitter.com/1972Jets/status/1328292126287941632

So Joes must have' lifted it' from there then. The list includes Cup goals so it's rather misleading, a Premier Division Club often draws a lowly Division Two Club in the First Round of the Challenge Trophy and their leading striker will score five or six in that one game alone without breaking sweat. Also, as well as the Challenge Trophy and Premier Division Cup, Oxhey Jets were in the FA Cup, FA Vase, Herts FA Charity Shield, Herts FA Senior Cup, and SSML Senior Floodlit Cup that season with Lewis Putman scoring in almost every game.

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40 minutes ago, Rhodes said:

Obviously the so called 'Great One', Clement Temile, has to be right up there, not so much for his achievements but for the profile and huge prestige he brought to the SSML creating Worldwide publicity for the League. A former Nigeria International who was nicknamed 'the Cheetah' in his homeland for his incredible speed, some of you will no doubt recall that he was in line for the Nigeria National team Coach job following 1974 World Cup winner Berti Vogts departure in 2008 but just failed to get it, this was whilst he was with Kentish Town and took them to the Division One Championship that 2007/2008 season with Lee Scott, who idolised Clement, the Division's top goalscorer. All of that is just the tip of the iceberg as Clement is Father to former Israel International Toto Tamuz who settled in Israel from his native Nigeria and became an Israeli citizen , Israel came to Wembley in September 2007 to play England in a European Championship Qualifier and Clement was all over the National papers like a rash for weeks with the SSML always getting a mention in articles. Like I said, Clement didn't lift the domestic treble like Steve Newing and Del Deanus did at Edgware Town, or go unbeaten throughout a League season like duo Darren Croft and Paul Reeves at Dunstable Town in 2012/13, however in terms of the prestige and he brought with him then Clement has to be by far the best. This is the so called 'Great One' receiving an honourary award on the hallowed Cotlandswick turf on Saturday 3 May 2008 before the Division One Cup Final between Ampthill Town and Haringey Borough:

I’d like to be considered if we are basing this not on achievements. 

1 minute ago, Rhodes said:

So Joes must have' lifted it' from there then. The list includes Cup goals so it's rather misleading, a Premier Division Club often draws a lowly Division Two Club in the First Round of the Challenge Trophy and their leading striker will score five or six in that one game alone without breaking sweat. Also, as well as the Challenge Trophy and Premier Division Cup, Oxhey Jets were in the FA Cup, FA Vase, Herts FA Charity Shield, Herts FA Senior Cup, and SSML Senior Floodlit Cup that season with Lewis Putman scoring in almost every game.

I would like to see league goals to be honest. 

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2 hours ago, Rhodes said:

So Joes must have' lifted it' from there then. 

Maybe.

Says on the Oxhey Jets FC Twitter page that they got it from another Twitter page.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Savagebee

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There was a thread created a while back by the knowledgable Rebadiah Hongfield entitled 'SSML Player Loyalty' and I'm surprised it died a death after just three posts, his view was that he didn't think it was 'a big deal' and that it was part and parcel of Non League football, he went on to ask 'what actual benefit do you get from staying at a Club, especially at this level and it's the player's own personal time and choice, not a job'. I can't say that I agree with Rebadiah Hongfield because you have to have some loyalty as well as a conscience, you have to admire Lewis Putman at Oxhey Jets, and Jordan Brown for example at Eynesbury Rovers, who could choose to play at a much higher level and of course Matt Le Tissier will always be 'the benchmark' for loyalty at Southampton:

SSML Player Loyalty - Spartan South Midlands League Forum - Fans Focus - Non League football clubs

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2 hours ago, Rhodes said:

There was a thread created a while back by the knowledgable Rebadiah Hongfield entitled 'SSML Player Loyalty' and I'm surprised it died a death after just three posts, his view was that he didn't think it was 'a big deal' and that it was part and parcel of Non League football, he went on to ask 'what actual benefit do you get from staying at a Club, especially at this level and it's the player's own personal time and choice, not a job'. I can't say that I agree with Rebadiah Hongfield because you have to have some loyalty as well as a conscience, you have to admire Lewis Putman at Oxhey Jets, and Jordan Brown for example at Eynesbury Rovers, who could choose to play at a much higher level and of course Matt Le Tissier will always be 'the benchmark' for loyalty at Southampton:

SSML Player Loyalty - Spartan South Midlands League Forum - Fans Focus - Non League football clubs

Would love to see Rebadiah Hongfield return to this forum.

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Savagebee - Yes, this was an interesting thread back in April 2013, just before Dunstable Town emulated the likes of Arsenal, Preston North End and AFC Wimbledon and went the entire SSML League season unbeaten as well as lifting the Challenge Trophy and Bedfordshie FA Premier Cup. Dunstable Town fan The Dog cordially invited members along to Creasey Park on Saturday 27 April for their final game of the season against Hatfield Town to witness the Club make the record and lift the Championship Shield, they won 2-0 and then went on to beat Codicote 3-2, a week or so later, in the Challenge Trophy Final at Preston Park with a certain person running the line. Anyway, following one or two initial congratulatory posts the thread descended into a slanging match and even Loosely, remember him of Southill Alexander 'fame', became involved, goodness knows why, Rebadiah Hongfield surprisingly commented that he didn't like Dunstable Town's fans however he didn't go into detail as to why not:

 

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43 minutes ago, Rhodes said:

Savagebee - Yes, this was an interesting thread back in April 2013, just before Dunstable Town emulated the likes of Arsenal, Preston North End and AFC Wimbledon and went the entire SSML League season unbeaten as well as lifting the Challenge Trophy and Bedfordshie FA Premier Cup. Dunstable Town fan The Dog cordially invited members along to Creasey Park on Saturday 27 April for their final game of the season against Hatfield Town to witness the Club make the record and lift the Championship Shield, they won 2-0 and then went on to beat Codicote 3-2, a week or so later, in the Challenge Trophy Final at Preston Park with a certain person running the line. Anyway, following one or two initial congratulatory posts the thread descended into a slanging match and even Loosely, remember him of Southill Alexander 'fame', became involved, goodness knows why, Rebadiah Hongfield surprisingly commented that he didn't like Dunstable Town's fans however he didn't go into detail as to why not:

Was a very hot day.

AR2 I recall.

 

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On 24/11/2020 at 19:06, petethegreek said:

Was a very hot day.
AR2 I recall.

So you remember that one then and not Brache Sparta v Sport London e Benfica on Monday 5 April 2010, that proves a point that you are only interested in the bigger games and, in particular, being awarded Cup Finals as I have said all along:

https://www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/sport/football/dunstable-win-treble-after-challenge-trophy-triumph-2342110

Edited November 25, 2020 by Rhodes

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19 hours ago, Rhodes said:

So you remember that one then and not Brache Sparta v Sport London e Benfica on Monday 5 April 2010, that proves a point that you are only interested in the bigger games and, in particular, being awarded Cup Finals as I have said all along:

https://www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/sport/football/dunstable-win-treble-after-challenge-trophy-triumph-2342110

I am more likely to remember a cup final than a poor league game.

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11 hours ago, petethegreek said:

I am more likely to remember a cup final than a poor league game.

Well the League games are your bread and butter aren't they, Cup Finals are just an added bonus as and when you might be awarded one by the League at the end of a season which I notice have been few and far between of late

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On 15/11/2020 at 08:19, Joes said:

Any questions feel free to pop them on here

It's difficult to 'keep the banter going' if nobody is posting, even Savagebee seems to have gone to ground in the last couple of days. I wanted to ask Joes about Connor Calcutt and whether he feels, hand on heart, that Connor has been a disappointment since his arrival at Bell Close infact he has hardly played a full game:

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Hello all, hope all are well. Connor is a top top lad, and was a breath of fresh air from day 1 in pre season. As the season came round, he had a massive re furb project going on at his new house, and then he and his misses had there 1st child, so we felt it only right to give him the time of a couple need specially with there 2st born. He was still doing a bit with us, and Was in constant contact with us all, and the plan was to have him back for the busy Xmas period and beyond. Gotta say, for a lad who has played levels, his attitude was spot on, probs the only player to be at every summer pop up session and eveey pre season session. Always the 1st to arrive also.  Cheers for the question, always happy to have communication, so long as it stays on the side of positive, keep in touch

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Joes - What was your thinking in bringing Connor on so late in the day against Leiston out of interest, I'm assuming he wasn't anywhere near full fitness however he didn't enter the fray until the 83rd minute. Leiston were on the ropes for the entire second half and seemed a fairly average Step 3 side who were there for the taking after Archie McClelland had pulled a goal back soon after they had made it 2-0, had Connor been brought on mid way through the second half there would have still been ample time to equalise and even win the tie in ninety minutes with Leiston giving away a lot of free kicks just outside the penalty area. 

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