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Vera's right. There were calls for volunteers for maintainence duties during the close season and a small band of folk did wonders in sprucing the place up. However, when tackling things like the Plough End roof, you start getting into the realms of scaffolding, Health & Safety regs, risk assessments and so on. Also, we attended all the summer reggattas with a stall (which is being vastly improved for this year) which raised our profile a little to the general non-football going public. Ideas are great but without the volunteers to put them into practise, they will stay ideas.

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The hardcore loyal support I reckon is made up of Scarfers who drop a lot of things to attend the Fleet. They are a small minority. The fact is they would have attracted more fans by now but they haven't.

They give everything but get little back.

 

You need more Casual Fans to attend Home Games. To do this you need to modernise and get away from the quaint little friendly non-pro Club. This needs money which if applied the right way then this breeds success and attracts more Casual Fans, who will marvel at the transformation of both Ground, Pitch, stadium and Team. And be at home with fellow Casual Fans.

 

This is not a criticism, rather a glowing reference to the hard work of the Scarfers, Board, Team and Manager. But to bring in larger Crowds you need to modernise, Casual Fans want to converse with other Casual Fans in the right environment.

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Doesn't this thread appear in different guises every month or so?

 

The idea's are good ones and focus on ways of promoting the Club to the wider Gravesham pubic by targetting the local schools; placing bigger and better adverts in the local press; improving the look and feel of the ground etc. etc.

 

On the other hand the Chief Exec is quoted in this weeks KentOnline, with reference to going full-time:

 

"To do so, we estimate that we would have to increase our annual income to £250,000. To help that we would require an increase in home attendances to 2,500 or 3,000."

 

I'm not intentionally knocking anyone who runs the Club but do they not read the idea's put forward on this messageboard? To improve the fanbase these idea's need to be acted upon and the initiative for such idea's has to come from the Club itself.

 

Many fans with idea's may feel their idea's are "un-welcome" if they stroll into the office on matchday and put forward initiatives to Club Officials.

 

On the other hand more people might come forward if the Club said "Look . . . if you the fan's have any idea's how we can move a step closer to full time status then why not drop into the office and run them past us".

 

 

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Agree that this topic gets dug up when the football side is quite and, to be fair some good ideas come forward. And that's the problem they stay on the forum.

 

The Fleet Trust has asked many times for people with ideas to promote the club to come forward. Thanks to Vera and John who both remembered my posts last year asking for volunteers, sadly this also feel on deaf ears. Just about eight of us gave up almost every weekend and some evenings, to work non-stop in cleaning and making good. Simply painting the wall around the pitch was no easy job.

It is no good anyone talking, talking never got anything done. Its actions that count. Don't expect someone else to

always take on your good idea, why not try and do something yourself.

 

Our wonderful mascot got on with it, and hey presto, we have a mascot. Not rocket science is it.

 

Sadly as has been posted the main band will support GNFC come what may its new blood we need, more people through the turnstiles and would agree that the Club must also get involved in this.

 

 

If you have a good idea, come along and chat about it, if you do not want to talk direct to the Club come to the Trust Hut any home match and we can discuss and perhaps the Trust can take it on or help progress it.

 

As I said earlier the Trust board are always looking for new ideas. If we all get involved , surely something must progress.

 

Perhaps we should take the recent Pledge scheme as an example. People will help they just need to be focused and understand exactly what they have to do.

 

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MHL, I agree with your comments but I'm sure a number of those hardcore Fleet Fans may object to being called Scarfers who, I believe, in 'Geezer-speak' are also known as 'Anoraks'. Hmmm. I think 'Supporters' would suffice. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Just another idea, can each person who attends home matches be given a voucher each time, and say every time you collect 3 on the trot a half price entry next game, the regulars will come regardless but by having this voucher it would mean an extra admission into the game.That in turn would be more money spent on programs , more money in the club house, burger bar etc.

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after reading all posts on here that we need more people through the turnstyle AND outside income flet fanatice metioned arriva how about the south eastern train company? as most fans use the trains.

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mightymole said:
after reading all posts on here that we need more people through the turnstyle AND outside income flet fanatice metioned arriva how about the south eastern train company? as most fans use the trains.


flet fanatice???

I always thought I had a dyslexic brother.

Unfortunately it was like getting blood out of a stone from connex when it came to money - even harder at the moment now it's under the SRA & they are penny pinching over the slightest item. There's no chance of sponsorship from them.

At best we'd be able to display posters or agree to people dishing out flyers at Gravesend station.

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A couple of points for this much repeated thread :

I'm a believer that the hierarchy of English football is more or less determined . Occasionally clubs like Wimbledon or Rushden break the mould and go up or clubs , like most of the full time clubs in the conference , go down .

We are at the pinnacle of part-time football , fighting above our historic weight , enjoy it .

Secondly Andy needs to continue to be the Dario Gradi of the non-league game . The Beast and Skinny boy were sold for a handsome profit . Dukebox and others hold their own at this level . Players on the way up normally give a bit more than players dropping down .Also there are far more players playing their football below the Conference than above .

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The hardcore loyal support I reckon is made up of Scarfers who drop a lot of things to attend the Fleet. They are a small minority.

 

Not all loyal supporters are scarfers.

Only missed a handful of games home & away and I don't think I fit the scarfer typecast.

we are out there we just need more of us.

 

But like the comments on this thread it is easy to talk the talk,but not walk the walk.

 

If you want like minded fans to attend games, then you have attend keep attending and spreading the word.

we need leadership and courageness to shed the image that most people have of the anoraked Fleet fan.

 

 

 

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A few Lads have come to the occasional game, I would go more but its a struggle to convince Lads to come down.

 

Good to see someone like minded like yourself.

Have noted earlier posts noting your loyalty to the Fleet, and inferred that your not a Scarfer.

 

Nothing wrong with Scarfers mind, good loyal Fans.

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To say most supporters are scarfers, and all scarfers are anoraks is probably a little harsh, but I can sort of see where your coming from. There's usually a handful of us who attend most home matches but on the occasions that others have left the pub on a Saturday afternoon and decided to come along with us they have been disappointed about the lack of like-minded casuals. The thing is though that there are other times that we've been and I've noticed a few little groups of lads scattered around. Never seem to be there all together though.

 

Agree it does seem hard to attract new supporters. On the few occasions where a large group of has have attended it's usually been a good laugh, but then within a few week the numbers drop and people stop making the effort. Shame cos where we all follow various London clubs it's a rarity that we all get together for games.

 

As a former season ticket holder at one of the big London clubs, I'm aware more than anyone of price increases at Premiership clubs and difficulty in getting tickets etc. Like I have said before, just look in certain pubs in the town centre on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and the majority of the are full with football supporters - not the ones who are content with a remote and an armchair - the ones who have been priced out of going to premiership games each week. What are the chances that a pub could be selected each week and an offer of two for the price of one tickets given to all regulars? Just something to try and attract these supporters?

 

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Thats a genuine good idea.

There are a number of "Football" Pubs in Gravesend. 2 for 1 would be good. The Beers they'd buy at halftime would more then make up the money and could attract them to come to more games for the long term. Where they'd be willing to invest money and support without incentives.

Thats my point, exploit the local supporters of the London teams. These are people with no plastic tendencies and who are genuine football supporters. Give them a team in our local habitat.

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