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Bluewater ban.....

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Harry J Allstars said:
What will they do on their saturday afternoons now?


Go to Lakeside...! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Or annoy us at home games

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It is very suspicious and somewhat threatening to the older generations, when these little gangs wander round in the middle of summer, with their hoods covering their faces?

 

The rules outline the standard of behaviour expected, including not smoking, leafleting, or canvassing on site.

 

Guidelines say intimidating behaviour by groups or individuals, anti-social behaviour including swearing, and wearing clothing which deliberately obscures the face such as hooded tops and baseball caps, will not be allowed.

 

Good on Bluewater for this

 

Before the do-gooders jump in..... Bluewater is private property & as such they can impose rules as they see fit.

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Yeah, I agree something should be done, but caps, hoodies etc. aren't just worn by troublemakers.

 

Someone said this underneath:

 

Why should all youths with caps be discriminated against? My 11 year old daughter is bald due to chemotherapy to treat her leukaemia. She does not wear a baseball cap when she goes shopping to obscure facial recognition from CCTV. She just wants to fit in with the way many youngsters look.

Sarah G, Kent, England

 

It sounds a bit unfair on people like this.

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Ah but two comments lower;

 

"About time something was done to stop this frightening trend. Groups of lads wearing hoods on a warm day look very threatening. Walking to the car park with my wife at Bluewater recently was a bit harrowing. Lads dressed in hoods calling out to us as we went to our car upset my wife badly and we have not been back since.

Colin Mallery, Broadstairs, Kent"

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The retail and leisure complex is bringing in a zero-tolerance approach to intimidating conduct.

 

The move has been backed by Kent Police which has a dedicated on-site team.

 

There's the answer - I think Bluewater will 'do a blitz' initially.

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If an individual decides to wear a hood INSIDE an air conditioned Mall, then they must be up to something (surely?)... shop lifting, bag snatching, or maybe they are just TOO UGLY to show their faces in public..!?! In genuine cases like stated above, then I think common sense should prevail..!

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The retail and leisure complex is bringing in a zero-tolerance approach to intimidating conduct.

The move has been backed by Kent Police which has a dedicated on-site team.

There's the answer - I think Bluewater will 'do a blitz' initially.


You will find that retail has slumped for this quarter of the year, and retailers will back any move to get people back into the malls and spending cash... On the flipside, it will also deter some folk, but they will probably end up in Essex, Lakeside anyway..! It's all about exposure, Bluewater have played a blinder here, no doubt it will be on the news and THAT is good exposure, bet the weekend will be busy for them..!

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It's a bit clothe-ist though, isn't it? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

 

Now, had it been turbans...

 

Nah but seriously, I think we all know how intimidating these people are and that something needed to be done. Just banning such common clothing seems a bit unfair.

 

They should've added something about people who tuck their trousers into their socks... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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You will find that retail has slumped for this quarter of the year, and retailers will back any move to get people back into the malls and spending cash...


It's a sign that there's a recession coming.

Just as that airstrip used by the car industry for housing their unsold motors, currently has more cars parked there than at anytime since the last recession.

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They should've added something about people who tuck their trousers into their socks... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />



Heh heh, definitely. Something should be done about them. How naff does that look?

Bluewater should go one step further and post snipers along the cliffs to shoot the caps off little oiks as they wander past.

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You will find that retail has slumped for this quarter of the year, and retailers will back any move to get people back into the malls and spending cash...


It's a sign that there's a recession coming.

Just as that airstrip used by the car industry for housing their unsold motors, currently has more cars parked there than at anytime since the last recession.


They were'nt Rovers eh Darren...???
You're right though, house prices are falling, retail is quiet, manufacture is at an all time low, unemployment is up, and Labour are in for another 5 years...!!! It's doom and gloom all round... plus the football season is almost over..
Where's me noose..!!?? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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that's a little stupid. I have a hoody but not the sort a chav or pikey would wear, and I don't ever put the hood up. Why can't they just chuck out all the massive gangs that go round shouting 'Oiii Chelsea.. fancy sum Maccy Ds?' It shouldn't be based on clothing, but I suppose they couldn't just say 'ban the chavs,' they must have had to put it in a less offensive way. Still, If it means there will be less pikies around then fair do's.

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that's a little stupid. I have a hoody but not the sort a chav or pikey would wear, and I don't ever put the hood up.

 

Then you don't have a problem do you.

 

I really cannot see how any sensible person can object to this, you are in a dry temperature controlled enviorement, what possible need is there to be wearing a hood?

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that's a little stupid. I have a hoody but not the sort a chav or pikey would wear, and I don't ever put the hood up.


Then you don't have a problem do you.

I really cannot see how any sensible person can object to this, you are in a dry temperature controlled enviorement, what possible need is there to be wearing a hood?


I like the fact that they wanna ban the chavs and pikeys but the whole clothes thing just seemed like a bit of a generalisation to me. I don't really think it is going to work anyway.

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Just arrest them anyway. A bit like Minority Report. We know they're gonna commit a crime, so let's get em before they do... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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About time too. I occasionally wear a cap too football to keep the sun out my eyes or a hood if it’s raining – wouldn’t be seen dead in a hooded tracksuit top under any circumstances.

 

Nothing more pathetic that seeing large groups of teenage joeys wandering around in 80 degrees wearing full tracksuits, baseball caps and hoods pulled up.

 

It’s not like they have the money to spend on clothes at bluewater anyway, so does it really matter if they’re banned? I’m just glad that these places have had the foresight to take the step and ban people who are likely to cause offence to others.

 

Why would anyone who isn’t a chav want to dress like them anyway?

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Its not general hoody's or wearing baseball caps they're on about, it's the two put together with the hood up I think. I think it is a great move, but cannot see how they will enforce it totally. I think that generally they are trying to get rid of the chav gangs that hang around on a Friday night. I can hear them now though 'errrr, it's a free country bruv' or 'I know my rights boi'. Maybe they should employ the same rule in Swanscombe, they would have a field day. Hmmmm...what to do on a Friday/Saturday night... I know I will go stand around a shop corner trying to get some cider/lambrini for the girls.

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From BBC News website…

 

“… Wearing clothing which deliberately obscures the face such as hooded tops and baseball caps, will not be allowed

 

In that case what stance will Bluewater take on people clad in this interesting ensemble…

 

ridley200.jpg

 

…and before any of you pipe up about racism, it wouldn't be the first time that thieves have hidden behind a burka to conceal their anonymity.

 

Burka-clad gang in jewellery raid

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