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Just to be clear, I am not necessarily saying that these additions are not good enough but I am saying that if any player is not performing, they should not have a divine right to play every week regardless of performance levels and perhaps other squad members should be given an opportunity.

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I heard AL saying he had eight players unavailable for the Brightlingsea game I take it that Jack was one of them.... I look at our team and think there is not much wrong with the players and we certainly should not be losing 5-0 Ito a team like HB...I was pleased to see Tyler return but he just seems lost on the pitch ....I would love to have an inside the dressing room view of team spirit and tactics etc .... to me the playing staff has improved but not the results so something is seriously wrong...

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I think you have got something there Theo. Regarding your comment on the number of missing players, I wondered months ago about what happened on the training ground and the apparent lack of many player's fitness. I still believe that this,together with player's above a certain age, is a well known contributing factor to recurrent injuries. Hence I cry out for a younger better trained squad. This may mean finding a new coach with more modern ideas. 

 

We can only hope that by next season some of our concerns are dealt with. However, it still will not guarantee success but I think it would be in the right direction. Other clubs will be trying to improve at the same time especially with the advent of the new league system.

 

But it good that we tend to agree a lot more now, especially after the spats we use to have earlier. Once of us must be mellowing!!!!

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4wembleyfinals said

But it good that we tend to agree a lot more now, especially after the spats we use to have earlier. Once of us must be mellowing!!!!

 

 

You were very quick to voice your dissatisfaction on our managers appointment whereas I was willing to give him a season to prove himself but now as the season is concluding I find myself thinking along your lines and worried that next season is going to be much the same as this one... where as a lot of your early season comments have proved to be correct I do think giving them time considering the dire starting point they had was the right thing to do....

The most surprising thing I find is we have a top defender coaching us yet the defence seems all over the place ...

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Oh dear MbB,  your quite right but many of us still have a nostalgia for the past and do not shy away from the fact that we also supported the "E's"from which ETFC blossomed. However, you obviously have a acute dislike for owner financed clubs. May I remind you that ETFC was reorganised in the main by Board members who served their apprenticeship within such a system. Should we hold that against them.

 

I sympathise with your general view CD but can't comment on what went on, as again I could not be there. As MbB says we have stayed (just) within this league and had another cup run. Although I understand from what has been said that our budget commitments ate up any financial benefit. I was also under the impression we were told that the managers ambition was to be at least mid-table and that by the end of the season we should have the nucleus of a squad going forward to next year. With a fair proportion of the team still in place since the beginning does that mean they will form part of the nucleus of next years team. If so who is throwing money away.

 

IT was interesting to read 3Spirits comments especially his remarks about AL making changes. I hope he is proved right but the manager will have to widen his horizons for new players beyond the "Old Southern League". There are plenty of good young players out there but he must be willing to give them a try. I say this as a very OAP. There is an age limit when a player's ability begins to leaves him quickly, mine came in 1967 at age 30 and I retired to watch Enfield FC on a more regularly.

 

Your comment about board members serving their apprenticeship within a system is not strictly true so I don't know where you got that information from.

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Andy, I got my information by knowing those who go back to Tommy Unwin and Lazar.... days. If you were around then you would know them too.

 

You not only have miss quoted me out of context, which almost suggests a journalistic background, but you seem to have missed my point as I also wrote " should we hold that against them."  My meaning being that because some of them had a background within a club which were financed by a single owners doesn't exclude them. I said that to MbB because he seems to always have particular bias against such clubs  

 

 

Also to quote your phrase " it is not strictly true" doesn't help your case as it's use infers that some of what I said is true.

 

Again Theo makes another interesting point about the coaching of the defence. Young players need to taught new methods.

 

Unfortunately the newly adopted coaching methods have left many current coaches in this country out of date. An EUFA "B" badge is like a degree in sporting science and and "A" Badge like a Masters. That is why so many ex-professional in this country find them hard to achieve.

 

( Please AndyE don't challenge me on this too. Best if you do your own research, because you will find this true as well) Sorry to sound such a bore.

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Andy, I got my information by knowing those who go back to Tommy Unwin and Lazar.... days. If you were around then you would know them too.

 

You not only have miss quoted me out of context, which almost suggests a journalistic background, but you seem to have missed my point as I also wrote " should we hold that against them."  My meaning being that because some of them had a background within a club which were financed by a single owners doesn't exclude them. I said that to MbB because he seems to always have particular bias against such clubs  

 

 

Also to also to quote your phrase " it is not strictly true" doesn't help your case as it's use infers that some of what I said is true.

 

Again Theo makes another interesting point about the coaching of the defence. Young players need to taught new methods.

 

Unfortunately the newly adopted coaching methods have left many current coaches in this country out of date. An EUFA "B" badge is like a degree in sporting science and and "A" Badge like a Masters. That is why so many ex-professional in this country find them hard to achieve.

 

( Please AndyE don't challenge me on this too. Best if you do your own research, because you will find this true as well) Sorry to sound such a bore.

I was a board member from the start for some five years and had nothing to do with the EFC business. Neither did quite a few board members at the time.

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Andy, I don't know what you are trying to prove because you obviously are reading my original submission completely out of context. Who mentioned business? I qualified my remarks by saying " in the main by Board members" etc. If you get hold of a 1990's Season ticket in it you will see at least 4 if not more members names who you should recognise as being in at you beginning. Now please lets stop being pedantic and concentrate on the football.  

 

I'm glad that you have done your bit for the club let's leave it at that.

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I am going to try hard to get there on Saturday. My wife will glad to get me out of the house after such a long time she has even offered to drive my over. With such enthusiasm and encouragement by her, who knows we might even bounce back with a win. From what I've read over the past few months anythings possible. Hope weather holds.

 

Nice to read Liam's apology for the performance last Saturday considering he only played for about 20 mins. Showed a bit of class but then from him 

that appears to come naturally. Well done Liam.

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As other clubs were throwing away money we couldn't afford and we had a new manager and a quickly built new squad for the season our aim was to stay in this league plus a cup run. Job done and next season we can move on which we need to.

So as long as the manager avoided coming rock bottom in the league,then it was job done? Really?

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I too share your view on LS's exclamation.

 

However, I have not been in any position to truly comment on games considering I have had to miss most this season. But reading the reports and observations on forum has brought me to an obvious conclusion, which I believe may be in accord with your own. That is the current situation is far from acceptable and that changes will have to be made before next season if the club has any intention to try to move forward. 

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I fear that next season is going to be the same as the current one.

 

Some signs of progress but ultimately inconsistent,fairly unappealing to watch and resulting in a mid to bottom half finish again.Hope i am wrong.

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Like you I hope you are proven wrong. If we aren't then I believe that even the most hardened supporter is going to find the a re-run of this year to be unacceptable. That is why I believe that common sense must prevail and that work starts immediately after the end of the season in order to alter the current situation.

 

It's going to be an interesting close season but hopefully not like last year.

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I too share your view on LS's exclamation.

 

However, I have not been in any position to truly comment on games considering I have had to miss most this season. But reading the reports and observations on forum has brought me to an obvious conclusion, which I believe may be in accord with your own. That is the current situation is far from acceptable and that changes will have to be made before next season if the club has any intention to try to move forward.

 

When it comes to performances on the pitch then I have to totally agree with your comments.

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Thanks Andy, but then I have always accept that that every one on the forum has the well being of the club at heart. Even if at times we come from different perspectives. Otherwise why would we take the time to express our views out in the open. That's what is good about it. Let us all hope we have better reasons for less criticism next year.

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